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posted on Nov, 7 2020 @ 09:03 AM
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You know, Biden could do himself a really big favor by stepping up to the plate and questioning the process of the recent elections just like everyone else. Instead, he just makes himself look complicit by hiding behind the obviously fraudulent win. Neither candidate got that many votes, neither Biden nor Trump, it's impossible and unprecedented! The only way they could give Biden that many votes was to pad Trump's vote counts at the same time. People, red or blue, should be asking themselves this question. Why? How? So something is definitely rotten here, something criminal is going on, and it needs to be found.

Let's face it, Biden will likely become the next president, like it or not. However, Biden, almost moreso than Trump, should have a seriously vested interest in getting to the bottom of what appears to be widespread fraudulent dealings in the elections. At its core, voting is the one fundamental underpinning of this nation. Period. Undermine the confidence in that and you have undermined the confidence in not only this country as a whole, but also in the eyes of the civilized World.

Biden does himself no favors by not coming forward and asking questions. He hurts his own credibility, he hurts his party's credibility...and he hurts the credibility of the entire country. He has nothing to lose, and everything to gain. It's not as if someone is going to hand Trump the election at this point. Oh sure, there will be plenty of hand wringing and teeth gnashing, lots of words will get said, but the outcome will likely not be changed.

So where is the harm in finding out the problem, and FIXING it once and for all. That way everyone, even the opposing party, can walk away from these elections with the confidence that nothing like this will EVER happen again.

Don't get me wrong here, there needs to be serious consequences! People need to go to JAIL, and for a very, very, long time (as in life). This is a very SERIOUS matter, and lip service and assurances it will never happen again are NOT going to cut it! Not this time! But Biden should be leading the charge and the parade, waving the American flag as being more important than any individual, even himself.

In times of trouble and turmoil, leaders lead and they lead by example. Failure to lead during times of crisis will only fuel the ever growing fracture between not the two parties, but between "The People" and the government whose duty it is to serve them!

It costs Biden nothing to do these things, but it has more value than any dollar figure could enumerate.

The very future of the United States of America hangs in the balance.
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posted on Nov, 7 2020 @ 09:07 AM
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Based on voting fraud...

Let´s not



posted on Nov, 7 2020 @ 09:08 AM
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a reply to: Flyingclaydisk
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posted on Nov, 7 2020 @ 09:09 AM
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China Bid3n.



posted on Nov, 7 2020 @ 09:11 AM
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a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

Maybe it wasn’t Biden that padded Trumps vote counts.

Just a thought.

That is, if that in fact happened.



posted on Nov, 7 2020 @ 09:13 AM
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posted on Nov, 7 2020 @ 09:14 AM
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a reply to: Spacespider

Why? Because you feel it is just a trivial thing which doesn't require scrutiny???

That's a question.

If you feel that way then I would say you are sorely mistaken. Name one fundamental thing which is more important in our republic. Again, another question.



posted on Nov, 7 2020 @ 09:17 AM
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a reply to: underwerks

Rarely do we agree, underwerks, but we agree on this point. Completely.

Without disparaging Biden, or Trump, I honestly don't believe either of them is smart enough to orchestrate what we all have just witnessed. As I have noted in other posts, this is no longer about Biden or Trump, this is about the system.



posted on Nov, 7 2020 @ 09:19 AM
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originally posted by: underwerks
a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

Maybe it wasn’t Biden that padded Trumps vote counts.

Just a thought.

That is, if that in fact happened.


perhaps not. but a serious learning lesson has been had here today. If you want to compete in todays political climate, you have to work with the tools given. I predict a massive mail in turnout for Republicans in the next election. massive.



posted on Nov, 7 2020 @ 09:19 AM
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a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

You're right -- of course!

No man of honor and integrity would want a "win" under these circumstances. No man of honor and integrity would want the election process so tainted and therefore suspect.

Rather than feeding the misinformation and disinformation being spewed across the MSM, Biden should be demanding full transparency in a fair and honest election.

If Trump is wrong about voter/election fraud, then Biden should welcome a full investigation -- including audits and recounts -- to prove his "win" is a righteous win. That could only give him greater credibility, and further affirm his self-proclaimed "mandate."

Anything less is complicity in undermining our election process.



posted on Nov, 7 2020 @ 09:21 AM
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Biden does himself no favors by not coming forward and asking questions.


Trump did himself no favors by declaring the election rigged and fraudulent before the first vote was even cast. He did himself no favors by broadcasting that he was banking on winning on the strategy of trying to debunk the results of a presidential election.



posted on Nov, 7 2020 @ 09:23 AM
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No man of honor and integrity would want a "win" under these circumstances.


I thought the same about Amy Coney Barrett, but I was wrong.


(post by lakenheath24 removed for political trolling and baiting)

posted on Nov, 7 2020 @ 09:24 AM
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a reply to: Sookiechacha

At some point in the last 20 years, every single person has questioned the integrity of the elections.

Unless of course you are too young and if that's the case Biden would like your #.



posted on Nov, 7 2020 @ 09:29 AM
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a reply to: Sookiechacha

Wow...a 2nd one. Again, we rarely agree, politically, but I agree with you.

Not only did he not do himself any favors, but he didn't do this nation any favors by making those allegations. And standing alone, those would be some serious allegations. But when what he so arrogantly predicted would happen...actually happened...well, then it wasn't about him anymore. Not to diminish what he said, it was still harmful, but independent of those words something far worse actually took place.

In any case, I agree.
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posted on Nov, 7 2020 @ 09:35 AM
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posted on Nov, 7 2020 @ 09:38 AM
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a reply to: Sookiechacha

Different position, very different process.

Where was the fraud?

But let's not deflect...hey, we're on a roll here! (agreeing and all).



posted on Nov, 7 2020 @ 09:40 AM
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a reply to: ketsuko

Do you know the difference from foreign interference and "rigging an election"?

No one on the left claimed that Trump's election in 2016 was rigged, or blamed American vote counters and appointed American process observers of being in cahoots to fraudulently tabulate or add mysterious ballots, or of harvesting ballots from old folks homes and changing those ballots from Hillary to Donald.



posted on Nov, 7 2020 @ 09:41 AM
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a reply to: Sookiechacha

Both interfere with an honest outcome, and neither should be allowed. But I guess that rigging it is OK because you benefited?



posted on Nov, 7 2020 @ 09:48 AM
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a reply to: ketsuko

The US Intel Community said that illegal foreign interference into the 2016 election happened. No one, except Donald Trump and his minions, is saying that US citizens conspired to "rig" this election.

At any rate, Democrats did a piss poor job of it, letting Moscow Mitch "The Grim Reaper" O'Connell and lying sycophant Lyndsey Graham stay in office for another 6 year term.




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