If Biden wins

After 2016 I have very little faith in polls but the Dems will probably vote in record numbers so there is some chance Biden will win. Four years of constant attacks and outright lies about Trump from the MSM does have a very real effect on how people think. The real question is has Trump managed to win over more people than he has lost, I'm sure there's a lot of people choosing Trump simply to ease the Covid-19 restrictions and avoid higher taxes.

However if Biden does win I would urge those on the right not to become discouraged, the left is going to get back power at some point because they always do. Look at the history of leaders in almost any nation and you will see an alternating pattern to the parties in power. After realizing that the elected party sucks, people switch back to the opposition party, and that continues so long as they elect career politicians from either party.

That is one of the main reasons I believe Trump appeals to a wide range of people, he's not an establishment politician and he rarely makes empty promises just to get votes. Whereas politicians like Joe Biden and Kamala Harris are the very definition of status quo politicians. They have a long history of enforcing laws which disproportionately affect minority communities but now suddenly they are the good guys who will be lenient and revise those laws.

I think we can all agree Biden has always been a moderate, but now he's suddenly the cool hip guy who's willing to capitulate to the demands of the far-left by adopting plans such as the "green new deal". It's a classic politician move, constantly flip flop so everyone hears what they want to hear. Want fracking banned, you got it, but don't worry we wont really ban fracking, we're just going to slowly phase out all fossil fuels completely.

Then we have Kamala and her most recent rant about equality of outcome, which is an argument saying we should all have the same amount of wealth regardless of how much we contribute to society. It's a utopian pipe dream that always results in everyone being equally poor because it ignores very basic economic principles and human nature. It's just pandering to the socialists who think the government should use taxes to redistribute wealth.

Biden even promised a cure to cancer if he became the President, there really is no lie too low for him. I even remember liberals mocked him for making those statements a few months ago, probably because they were expecting Bernie Sanders or Andrew Yang to become the Dem frontrunner instead of Biden. Also keep in mind Biden has a history of plagiarism and academic fraud. Electing a person so deceptive requires either deep hate or deep ignorance.

In a way I am starting to understand the hate for Trump because I feel a similar way about politicians such as Biden and Hillary. To me they represent the pinnacle of corrupt politicians, the type of deeply embedded power players that think they can screw over their citizens and the entire world for their own personal gain. However it might be what is required for people to better understand why Trump is a good leader who fights hard for his nation.

It could also help people understand why far-left policies can be so detrimental to the economy and erode freedoms. The U.S. is one of the few remaining western nations that hasn't totally embraced ideas like "democratic socialism". As an outsider who has experienced these progressive policies in action and has witnessed how destructive they can be to the economy and our way of life, it has motivated me to write about these issues for many years on ATS.

I was hesitant to make this thread since I don't live in the U.S. and I know it can seem obnoxious when outsiders try to tell you how to run your nation. However I'm not trying to change the minds of any Biden supporters because I know that is a pointless task at this point in time since most people have already voted or made up their mind. This is more of a message for Trump supporters who may feel hopeless if Trump loses the election.

Even if Biden wins the presidency, keep in mind Pence can always do the exact same thing Biden did in the next election, after him we could also see another Trump family member become president. People seem to think that after this election all the political drama will come to an end but I highly doubt that will be the case. Obviously it would be better if we could all get along and sing songs together but that's just more utopian thinking.

People are always going to disagree on certain things, especially what political and/or economic framework is the best for society. Many of you may say things like "it's just dumb partisan politics and you're playing right into it", but these are deep idealogical issues which have large implications for the real world. At some point we have to decide which of those philosophies we adhere to, because the repercussions of not doing so can be disastrous.

Actually, if Biden won there would be nothing stopping Trump from running in 2024. Well, age maybe, but he would be eligible.

Great post.

a reply to: ChaoticOrder

If Biden wins

*Puts on MAGA hat, IQ drops 60 points, screeches in rage at what Fox News is telling me*

Biden is going to institute communism, kill Christmas, fight God, and flog a bald eagle live on TV. After that, Anti-Fa will raid my 300 person town and burn down the one gas station and Dollar General.

Only Republican Jesus can save us. But he’s busy fighting off immigrants at the border and pulling children away from their families. Dark times for us “real” Americans...

*takes off red hat*

Jesus Christ what happened..

If Biden wins the chances of me owning and running my own outdoors store with firearm sales and gunsmithing probably won't happen.

I feel like as much as people want to cry about their freedoms they are willing to give them away if a man who holds their hand and speaks nicely to them is the president.

I feel my individual freedoms are being threatened to be saceificed for the collective, and I want nothing to do with the collective.

a reply to: underwerks

How old are you? 16? Yeesh.

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

That's a good point but he probably wont have the same level of energy by that point in time and would probably be better off letting Pence take the wheel. Even a well known Republican and Trump supporter such as Rand Paul would be a good option but probably wouldn't generate the same amount of enthusiasm.

a reply to: ChaoticOrder

I think you hit the nail on the head. The reality is the USA is a pendulum. We swing left, we swing right, we swing left again. We always have and always will as the demographics of our nation changes. Take a look at the hispanic vote. First they were for the left, because they wanted to come to the nation, work, and become citizens. 10 years later, they are voting republican, because now that they are citizens, they want to open businesses, get good paying jobs, and control the borders so wages increase. they aren't the only group that swings like that. Blacks are starting to swing too, as a whole. same with the unions too. I think the nation is sick of the far left and far right after 8 years of Obama, and now 4 with Trump. If Trump wins, I expect a good economy. If Biden wins, I want my free healthcare, free college, and cheap imports. either way, I voted for the lesser of the two evils from my point of view now the question is did my lesser evil get election, and if he did, is he going to do what he said?

Camain

a reply to: underwerks

*Puts on MAGA hat, IQ drops 60 points, screeches in rage at what Fox News is telling me*

Well I'll give it to you, at least that was kind of funny and made me laugh. But it seems like you really didn't read anything I said or didn't try to understand it. Btw why would Biden "fight God" when he's a devout Catholic... seems like quite a fundamentalist belief system for someone who claims to be so woke.

a reply to: ChaoticOrder

If Biden wins, then I'll be done with politics, on-line stuff.

Maybe I'll take up gardening.

originally posted by: underwerks
a reply to: ChaoticOrder

If Biden wins

*Puts on MAGA hat, IQ drops 60 points, screeches in rage at what Fox News is telling me*

Biden is going to institute communism, kill Christmas, fight God, and flog a bald eagle live on TV. After that, Anti-Fa will raid my 300 person town and burn down the one gas station and Dollar General.

Only Republican Jesus can save us. But he’s busy fighting off immigrants at the border and pulling children away from their families. Dark times for us “real” Americans...

*takes off red hat*

Jesus Christ what happened..

"There are none so blind as those who will just not see"
Louis Armstrong.

Denying ignorance .
Why ?
Do I have to answer after this ?

If bidden wins, I am moving to canada.

a reply to: TKDRL

IF he wins, I am changing to democrat and then gonna be a die hard socialist communist, and rise in the ranks so I can control the people. hey if you can't beat them, join them, and then beat them at their own game amIright? I'll send my peons out to "Protest" and whine and get them to send me money to help me help them, while I buy my 4th beach house, and maybe trade up my lambo.

Camain

a reply to: ChaoticOrder

If Biden wins, we may not know until Friday.

That is when Pennsylvania and Nevada have to finish counting all the mailed in votes.

a reply to: camain
Oh that's some 6D chinese checker playing right there folks. We got the Bernie Sanders II in our ranks. That's glorious.

If Biden wins.

I'm gonna climb to the top of the World Trade Center and jump off the edge.

And no one will stop me!

Good bye cruel world.

It sucks.

If Biden Wins...

Look for this to begin !!!!


** The N.W.O.Global_//_American.Democrat.Alliance**

They must get back:
_The cancelled Iran Deal, and
_The Paris Climate Accords, and
_The original trade agreements that kill U.S. jobs and business

Then:
Cancel all new trade agreements,
Restore the foreign raping of the U.S. via trade agreements,
Stop the U.S. demand that NATO Members pay a fair share,
American dependence on foreign oil must return,
Russian and Iranian sanctions must end,
Wars must be perpetual as usual,
Unemployment must be steady at: 8% - 9%,
The Border must be wide open,
Illegal immigrants here must take American jobs again,
Democrat Authoritarianism must be restored,
The U.S. Embassy in Israel must move back,
Work to cancel the recent peace agreements,
Create all systems for a Cloward-Piven overload,
Start new wars,
Re-screw the VA system again,
Create new dependency classes,
Raise Taxes sky high,
Rebuild the payoffs from Human trafficking and illegal drugs,
Permanently establish an “Any Means Necessary” commission with
a capture bonding wing and politburo,
Increase the SCOTUS to 15,
Grant Statehood to any Territory that would support Democrats,
Reset the economic Middle Class,
Increase funding for the U.N.,
Rejoin the WHO and increase funding,
Re-establish the intel agencies spying on political enemies,
Establish an American Green New Deal,
Outlaw Right to Work,
Eliminate the Senate Filibuster and the Electoral College system,
Gun Control on Steroids!,
Enhanced Sanctuaries for Illegal Immigrants.

Politburo Bolshevik Party Presidium

If Biden wins, I think Trump will resign immediately... Just so he can ‘ethically’ be pardoned by Pence.

a reply to: underwerks

And that is the problem with the current democratic platform.


This is the exact mindset of a racist. The bigotry you display at a preconceived notion of a stereotype is astounding and common.

originally posted by: underwerks
a reply to: ChaoticOrder

If Biden wins

*Puts on MAGA hat, IQ drops 60 points, screeches in rage at what Fox News is telling me*

Biden is going to institute communism, kill Christmas, fight God, and flog a bald eagle live on TV. After that, Anti-Fa will raid my 300 person town and burn down the one gas station and Dollar General.

Only Republican Jesus can save us. But he’s busy fighting off immigrants at the border and pulling children away from their families. Dark times for us “real” Americans...

*takes off red hat*

Jesus Christ what happened..

This is the greatest post I've ever read.. and would give it 100 stars if I could. But I can't, because unlike other ATS members.. I don't reside in Russia and own hundreds of bot accounts to flag and star posts that forward my agenda.

originally posted by: underwerks

*takes off red hat*

Jesus Christ what happened..

It doesn't help listening to what they are talking about....lol Its not like Republicans are just making crap up, they are reacting to the liberal messages they are putting out.