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originally posted by: TheKestrel04
I had deduced they manipulate the fabric of space which affects physical time which in turn would affect the phenomenon of gravity.
UFO Report from N. F. Kusov - Strokino, Kazan, Russia. May, 1978
As he sat in his study he noticed an uncommon light shining from outside, apparently from behind some trees. He decided to go investigate the source and saw at about 100 feet from the light, in a clearing, a cigar shaped object, 8 meters in length, sitting on the earth at one end and up the the air at the other end, at a 45-degree angle.
Kusov approached to within 15 feet of the object, which emanated a beautiful orange light with different tints. As he approached the object even further, he suddenly felt his insides "bursting" open, he realized he was being enveloped in a low frequency, 7 hertz, field.
Kusov took several steps back, and the discomfort passed. He approached again and the same thing happened. At this point he noticed to his consternation how the rays of the sun seemed to be absorbed by the surface of the object, seemingly entering what it appeared to him as a "black hole".
Shaken by what he had seen, Kusov walked back to the dacha but suddenly broke into a run towards the object, which still sat on the ground, again he could not approach the craft due to the high degree of discomfort.
Suddenly the object rose above the earth to about 2-3 meters, and then shot away vertically upward. Kusov felt no shockwave emanating from the object's liftoff. Shocked, he stood around for 5 minutes then frightened walked back to the dacha. There, he looked at his wristwatch and was astonished to see that almost 5 hours had passed and he thought he had only been outside for 30 minutes.
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originally posted by: NightVision
a reply to: karl 12
If these vehicles are using anti-grav to move through space, it makes sense that those in their field would be affected, since gravity, space, and time are all connected.
For ex. a craft could generate a gravity/time field around an object, essentially 'freezing' time around it. This could be why, from the observers POV, birds stop chirping and watches stop.
originally posted by: Encounter
originally posted by: NightVision
a reply to: karl 12
If these vehicles are using anti-grav to move through space, it makes sense that those in their field would be affected, since gravity, space, and time are all connected.
For ex. a craft could generate a gravity/time field around an object, essentially 'freezing' time around it. This could be why, from the observers POV, birds stop chirping and watches stop.
One cannot use antigravity in interstellar space, imo. Nothing to push off against. Inside solar system fine.
No?
originally posted by: NightVision
originally posted by: Encounter
originally posted by: NightVision
a reply to: karl 12
If these vehicles are using anti-grav to move through space, it makes sense that those in their field would be affected, since gravity, space, and time are all connected.
For ex. a craft could generate a gravity/time field around an object, essentially 'freezing' time around it. This could be why, from the observers POV, birds stop chirping and watches stop.
One cannot use antigravity in interstellar space, imo. Nothing to push off against. Inside solar system fine.
No?
Anti-grav tech wouldn't necessarily involve 'pushing' off anything so much as pulling the fabric of space toward you. Pushing off something is a method of propulsion. This method would likely involve creating an anti-matter reaction that's so focused it can bend the fabric of space-time, and create a field around the craft you are piloting. Does that make sense?
originally posted by: Encounter
originally posted by: NightVision
originally posted by: Encounter
originally posted by: NightVision
a reply to: karl 12
If these vehicles are using anti-grav to move through space, it makes sense that those in their field would be affected, since gravity, space, and time are all connected.
For ex. a craft could generate a gravity/time field around an object, essentially 'freezing' time around it. This could be why, from the observers POV, birds stop chirping and watches stop.
One cannot use antigravity in interstellar space, imo. Nothing to push off against. Inside solar system fine.
No?
Anti-grav tech wouldn't necessarily involve 'pushing' off anything so much as pulling the fabric of space toward you. Pushing off something is a method of propulsion. This method would likely involve creating an anti-matter reaction that's so focused it can bend the fabric of space-time, and create a field around the craft you are piloting. Does that make sense?
idk, I do not agree with this.
Propulsion firstly means pushing against something in essence and I do not understand 'anti-matter' thing but it certainly does not fall into 'anti-grav tech' category. It has to do something with hypothetical wormhole stuff, I think.
and then, I think hoovering in mid air will not involve wormhole of any kind. But tech that moves drones here on Earth and ships traveling between stars is the same, seems to me.
Report - November 5, 1957; Philadelphia, Penn.
Apartment lights dead, electric clock stopped; bright light awakened couple. Milkman reported flaming disc.
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August 31, 1958; La Verde, Argentina. Light aircraft (Piper) engine increased its revolutions abnormally during UFO sighting. Engine normal after UFO left.
Report - April 14, 1957; Vins-Sur-Caraney, France. Metal signs magnetized after vibrating as UFO maneuvered near. Deviation of compass noted in immediate area of sighting. (Same List)
Location. Jian-Shui County, Yunnan Province, China
Date: Autumn 1975
Time: evening (Source: Albert Rosales Humanoid 1975)
Two soldiers of a certain unit of the Chinese People's Liberation Army encountered a huge saucer-shaped flying object that was circling around above their heads and emitting beams of soft orange-colored light. One of the men at once ran into the camp to give the alarm, while the other stayed there to watch it. A few minutes later when the Camp Commandant with about a dozen armed men came running up to the entrance to the barracks, they found no trace of the soldier who had remained behind.
The Commandant at once ordered that all personnel, officers and enlisted men, make a general search but there was no sign of him. A few hours later, four soldiers taking over sentry duty, suddenly heard the sound of someone moaning behind them, and, looking around, found that it was the missing man, who in miraculous fashion had reappeared. They at once perceived that his eyebrows, beard, and hair had grown extremely long. When he had fully recovered consciousness it was found that his memory was totally gone. His wristwatch showed that it had stopped long ago. His weapons and watch all were found to be slightly magnetized.
HC addendum Source: Zhang Ke-Tao, Chinese UFO Research Society Flying Saucer Review Vol. 44 # 2, summer 1999
1968 - At 1:20 a.m. in Mendoza, Argentina Ms. Adela Casalvieri, night nurse at the Neuropsychiatry Hospital, heard a loud penetrating humming noise outside in the hospital courtyard. Going out to see what it was, she observed a saucer-shaped landed object only 20 meters away. It was brightly luminous and sitting in the middle of the courtyard. A luminous red beam came from the object and struck her, and she found that her legs were paralyzed. Putting her hands up to her face for protection she now found she was completely unable to move. She remained immobilized for a number of minutes until the red beam was extinguished. At this time the object ascended vertically, then flew off rapidly to the south barely clearing the wall that surrounded the courtyard. Before it disappeared she was able to observe several human-looking figures through square portholes that encircled the craft. These beings moved back and forth, passing each other, and were visible from the waist up only. Landing gear imprints were found at the landing site and several small potted trees had been burned. Mrs Casalvieri had first-degree burns on her face and hands, and parts of her nurse's cap and clothing were singed. In addition, her watch, which had stopped at 1:30 a.m., was found to be radioactive, as was her ring.
(Source: David F. Webb & Ted Bloecher, HUMCAT: Catalogue of Humanoid Reports, case 1968-89, citing G. J. Gianza Paz & A. M. Baragiola).
originally posted by: Proto88
Magnetics for the clocks..
originally posted by: karl 12
Great Chinese find there my friend and do seem to remember another South American case where excessive beard growth was reported.
His men ran forward to attend to their leader. They would carry Valdes to their camp base. As they did, several of them noticed how he had “beard growth equivalent to several days without shaving”. All agreed he, like always, was almost clean-shaven at the time of the disappearance.
As they settled their unconscious corporal down, they noticed the strange lights begin to ascend and vanish into the early morning sky.
Valdes finally awoke around 7 am that morning. He was confused, stating the last thing he remembered was moving forward towards the lights. He would state, “Get ready to leave – it’s 4:30 am”. It was then he would find it was after 7 am. Even stranger, though, was when Valdes checked his watch. Instead of the date declaring it to be the 25th, his watch claimed it to be the 30th April. Combined with the beard growth, it would appear wherever Valdes had been, to him, five days had passed.
Location. Santiago, Chile
Date: April 10 2004
Time: night
44-year old Eduardo Perez, a security guard at a high scale
condominium was at his guard shack when he perceived a
strong luminosity coming from outside. As he went out to
investigate he immediately lost consciousness. He is later
found by another one of the guards; about 600 meters
away from his post in a state of confusion, and incredibly
with a three-day growth of beard, the hands of his quartz
watch were turning on the opposite direction. After
explaining what occurred to his superior he shakes hands
with him but this one is suddenly thrown back by a violent
discharge of static electricity from Perez's hand. Later
local police found strange ground traces at the nearby golf
course, which unfortunately were ordered, removed by the
local residents. According to Perez he has had unusual
encounters from an early age, including one time when he
was missing for several hours and remembers seeing two
short humanoids.
HC addendum
Source: Dr. Mario Dussuel, Guillermo Aguilera
Ovniaventura, Chile
Type: G?
Comments: Shades of the Cabo Valdes encounter of April
1977 also in Chile. So far there is not information on any
possible hypnotic regression yet.
The strangest thing, however, was the behavior of the alarms in the electric clocks, which had been set to ring at 5:00 a.m. – they all started to ring everywhere at 2:03 a.m.
originally posted by: wavelength
Interesting you brought up the other Mendoza incident, I added that one to my collection of RF/directed energy UAP collection a month or two ago; it fit in with a bunch of incidents I was looking at in which the objects emitted beams which temporarily paralyzed the witnesses. The behavior of the beam suggested non-ionizing radiation, but the radioactivity of her jewelry suggested a dose of ionizing radiation as well. I was focusing so much on the "beam" aspect that I admittedly overlooked the stopped watch!
Vallee claims that "what UFO witnesses describe as 'light' may, in fact, be a complex combination of ionising and non-ionising radiation. Many of the injuries described in Brazil, however, are consistent with the effects of high-power pulsed microwaves..
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Distortions in Time and Space
One of the strangest aspects of some UFO encounters is the apparent distortion of time when a UFO is nearby. Researchers and writers have tried for years to understand and to interpret what happens before, during, and after a close contact with a UFO. But, many reports of time anomalies have been kept off some UFO databases because such events fall outside of the preconceived notions of what a UFO sighting should entail.
Like the two Ohio sisters, others who have experienced a close contact with a UFO have reported apparent time distortions like the failure of car engines, a strange feeling of isolation (to the point where it is observed that no other vehicles or people are seen during the sighting), unusual silence, spatial changes, altered states of consciousness, and distortions in the flow of time.
Generally, these anomalies disappear along with the UFO. Occasionally, however, the witnesses will suffer from unexpected relapses weeks, even years, after the initial experience.
These anomalous events have created more headaches than answers for researchers who have attempted to find scientific validation for unusual UFO encounters. On the surface, some of the reported anomalies seem to be explainable using modern science. However, upon closer analysis, strange things tend to become even stranger..
originally posted by: KTemplar
a reply to: karl 12
All of my clocks are off and no matter what I do, they change again, stop, start, minutes, hours. Just last week I get a call from my s/v asking if I was ok; I was getting ready for work. Well apparently I lost an hour, don’t know how, I follow the same routine everyday, and I thought I was running early.
My son and g/f also claim that they could not find me for an hour, while I have no recollection of leaving.
The other night at work, the door at work wouldn’t let us out. It’s an automatic door and wasn’t locked, but refused to open even when pulling on it.
Lost brakes before too.
My clocks haven’t been synchronized in over 15 years. Also, when I lived in AZ, the clock at work stopped at 3:00 everyday for months. The poor maintenance man was baffled.
I wonder how many other people go through this!