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If Antifa is a terrorist group then why...

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posted on Oct, 12 2020 @ 05:06 PM
If antifa is a terrorist group. Why aren't we seeing all kinds of arrests of these protestors waving flags, flying banners, sporting all kinds of the paraphernalia? Let alone arrests; IN MASS, of those actually rioting. They are labeling themselves terrorist and many are burning cities. I get it's complicated as far as the law goes but from my perspective the law leads to such a thing. I'd like to be explained to why that isn't the case. I would think the feds have ground here. I don't get it.
edit on 12-10-2020 by Antipathy17 because: (no reason given)

posted on Oct, 12 2020 @ 05:15 PM
a reply to: Antipathy17

Refer to the term NGO and gov't sponsored terrorism for insight to your query.

posted on Oct, 12 2020 @ 05:16 PM

originally posted by: Antipathy17
If antifa is a terrorist group. Why aren't we seeing all kinds of arrests of these protestors waving flags, flying banners, sporting all kinds of the paraphernalia? Let alone arrests; IN MASS, of those actually rioting. They are labeling themselves terrorist and many are burning cities. I get it's complicated as far as the law goes but from my perspective the law leads to such a thing. I'd like to be explained to why that isn't the case. I would think the feds have ground here. I don't get it.

Just off the top of my head it's so if caught they have potentially extra charges thrown on top. Could be wrong

posted on Oct, 12 2020 @ 05:17 PM
a reply to: Antipathy17

Simply because enforcing the law rests on the shoulders of Democrat mayors, governors, district attorneys...

Who support terrorism because it will hurt Trump's re-election chances, they have been told.

Just WAIT to watch the fun if he wins again...

posted on Oct, 12 2020 @ 05:22 PM
a reply to: Antipathy17

Hmmm seems pretty obvious why they're not being arrested, the same reason why governments allowed them to take over sections of cities and such and why pallets of bricks and food trucks magically appear. They've been intentionally destroying the economy for months through government measures. Then some group comes along targetting small private businesses and such.

Put two and two together.

This entire year has been an attack on the middle class. Notice antifa's not burning down Apple stores or walmarts. They're burning down local businesses, attacking people's homes, destroying and raiding their neighbours businesses.

These people are the tools of the same people that have slowly been eroding away the middle and lower class people for years. Anyone that tries to rise, anyone that makes a living for themselves anyone not a slave to the corporate masters are to be removed.

Antifa is another in a long line of methods and tactics being used to utterly eradicate freedom of any kind for any normal person and replace it with some kind of corporate socialist dictatorship where free enterprise, free thought, free expression and freedom in general are crimes to be punished as severely and as harshly as possible.

Whether economically, socially or through direct force.

posted on Oct, 12 2020 @ 05:28 PM
They aren't terrorists, are y'all terrorized?

Its just regular folk being regular folk.
Violence is our culture.

I personally hope this all escalates.
I love watching Wars.

If my comment offends you - you are in denial about your own nature.

You are a Moth and Violence is our Flame. We cant help it.

Everywhere around you is evidence that violence is the prime way to solve most problems. We spend most of our money on war, violence sure fixed the Axis real good in the 1940s.

You kill bugs, you even get genocidal about viruses like Covid (poor endangered creature). When a baby is born we smack it hard dude.

Violence is our God, Mars whatever you wanna call it. Violence sets you free from all the Lies of this Life, it solves our disputes and problems, we glorify it and make hero's of the greatest warriors.

Sports on tv is just violence. Even the weak sports are at their core a violent competition for who's best.

All your shows and films and most music is essentially violence worship.

So escalate this # and enjoy the fireworks as they kill each other. Get the popcorn salt and butter out!

My post was made to reveal one shocking fact of this reality to you loud and clearly:

posted on Oct, 12 2020 @ 05:44 PM
And y'all thought this conversation would follow an expected route.

Then I showed up and turned everything you think upside down so now it's finally right side up!

In reality Antifa and Patriots align ideologically pretty well - they just dont realize that cuz the MSM Divided and Conquered them.

We split them into labels, focus on tiny differences and when that doesn't work turn it racial so war is inevitable.

So since everyone is too dumb to realize they were on the same side but just got OWNED like the SLAVES they are by the corporate overlords and willingly divided themselves - # it let em kill each other. Let it all burn.

They deserve this for believing in tv lies.
And they deserve it for denying our God - Violence - is the solution even tho everything we think and do ensures violence is coming soon and nothing anyone does prevents this.

Explain to me exactly why you think all these low IQ ppl should breed?

Point proven.

Violence is the solution and always has been. Stop denying reality by repeating those mind control phrases they indoctrinated you with.

If you repeat a Lie enough they'll believe it.
That's why you keep saying "Violence solves nothing" yet every page of history disagrees and every armed person on Earth implicitly disagrees.

The Truth is that Violence solves most problems definitively. That doesn't always work out cuz of chaos but in general it works.

Cops are like personification of organized violence we rely on to solve our problems.

We have fire fighters, tho we could call them water sprayers it just isn't cool sounding. A fire fighter is a bad ass, a water sprayer is lame.

It's the same thing but how I label it makes all the difference see?

Antifa or Patriot?
It all depends on the narrative you subscribe to.

Anyways I'm looking forward to the big day where SHTF. Everyone will be so excited lol.

posted on Oct, 12 2020 @ 05:52 PM
a reply to: Antipathy17

Hopefully you get it now.
They are all brainwashed slaves.

What they think doesn't matter because they dont think at all.

This is all Divide and Conquer to justify the transition from the old world order to the new one.

Antifa and Patriots are regular folk doing regular folk things like Violence. Because they dont know what they do from the birds eye view they think they are against violence - but everything they think and do leads directly to conflict.

The only thing anyone really believes is that it's time for Violence. They deny this yet all evidence proves it.

Well I'm ready for Violence too.
This will sort everyone out real good.

You know you're asking for it under your breath. Don't Lie to me I see thru all of it.

posted on Oct, 12 2020 @ 05:54 PM

originally posted by: Lumenari
a reply to: Antipathy17

Simply because enforcing the law rests on the shoulders of Democrat mayors, governors, district attorneys...

That is it in a very clear nutshell.

posted on Oct, 12 2020 @ 05:58 PM
You want the Truth??

Tell em how it really is Jack

We deny reality because the Truth is a harsh brutal thing most ppl spend their entire lives antipathically ignoring.

You just can't handle it.

posted on Oct, 12 2020 @ 06:26 PM
Do you honestly believe in the boogaloo boys and antifa? They are both feds or paid and directed by feds. I had a link to three boogaloo boys being undercover narc’s from Denver but I can’t find it right now.

This is all a show! It’s some big game the elite play on dumb young people. First the feds start some political group! The next stage is to have some plan to attack something or someone. The last stage is to arrest anyone who isn’t a cop or an actor. They allow places to be looted and try to infiltrate the group based off the fact most of these idiots carry a phone that id’s them and they can be tracked.

The reason these people never see jail is because they are doing stuff under the directions of feds.

Why you ask? Great question! They do it to get money for the justice system. Ever notice how right wing terrorist are the “problem” yet most of the time it’s crazy left wing terrorist burning down cities, kidnappings mayors “yes he was an anarchist”

Ever wonder why Nike and every corporation is for BLM?Well Nike sells a lot of shoes to its black consumers and everyone like amazon and Walmart and McDonald is doing it to guard against unions! apparently a more multiethnic workforce has less chance of unionizing it the same reason why google and Microsoft hire HB1-visas instead of American college graduates. All these people care sooooo much about civil rights that’s why they pay slave labor in 3rd world countries.

But I’m getting a bit off topic here. It would seem that corporate America has been running the shots for awhile now and have infiltrated government to the point of some plan with the feds to form some socialist hellhole while they enjoy never paying taxes and asking for bailouts.

Anyway it’s a game they are losing! The NBA is down 70 percent viewship, SJW agenda is a loser in media and movies, riots and social change is the last ditch effort to change the direction but it’s not working.

This virus # is to stop the wave of immigration poring into every western country. The change in the plan is happening and the old guard is dying a slow painful death and it’s lashing out at everyone and everything as it dies. The real question is what will happen when they are finally dead!

posted on Oct, 12 2020 @ 06:48 PM
a reply to: muzzleflash

Fkn hell dude 😐

posted on Oct, 12 2020 @ 08:26 PM

originally posted by: FinallyAwake
a reply to: muzzleflash

Fkn hell dude 😐

That's what I thought too.
I couldn't even believe I was typing it.

It's shocking because it's...
All too real.

posted on Oct, 12 2020 @ 08:48 PM
a reply to: FinallyAwake

And you gotta admit I literally found the perfect place to make sense of that quote from Jack.

I went my whole life not really getting it, always thinking "of course I can handle the Truth!".

But suddenly today that quote came to me, in Jacks voice, as I was realizing the Truth about violence and all the Lies and denial we participate in to virtue signal to each other how we're good guys yet secretly we all LOVE violence and hope for it to happen.

Those deepest in denial actually believe in their lies because they cannot handle the realization that everything is shades of gray and maybe no one's a bad guy or good guy maybe we're all sort of a combo between them, a real human psychological dichotomy between good and evil.

It's hard for ppl to admit they suck and have major flaws.

But I'm trying dammit.

By telling you of my realization of my own violent nature, and my persistent attempt to deny it and hide it from others - I am relating to you a hidden reality inside everyone that they are terrified others might find out is real.

Everyone hates.
Everyone lies.
Everyone cheats.
And everyone supports violence as a means to an end to various problems.

Any one who would deny it only reveals they are guilty as sin itself.

This whole discovering the Truth quest sure takes some crazy turns, but I accept the harsh brutal reality.

If you really want to change something you must first accept and appreciate it's nature.

By denying our love for Violence we are doomed to continue repeating it unknowingly.

By denying your own human nature you only make it worse. We must accept that our Hearts are corrupted.

When you think you're totally virtuous and justified is the most dangerous moment because you're capable of any evil as you deny it.

All villains think they are justified, thats why its so easy for a hero to become a villain. You just can't see yourself in the mirror clearly if you live in denial of your own nature.

posted on Oct, 12 2020 @ 09:18 PM
The real question is then :

What is wrong with humanity?
Why are we so hypocritical?

How come it's so hard to see this?

Literally all of us are in denial. Even me because this is a #d up Truth to accept.

I only saw it because Im questioning everything indoctrinated into my skull more deeply these days and I get a rush from discovering shocking things I somehow missed all these years.

This is on topic because I'm showing you there is no such thing as Antifa or Patriots or BLM or whatever.

There are just brainwashed humans in denial of their own nature, being led like sheep to the slaughter by wolves.

How politically incorrect is the Truth?

Violence solves problems.
Every one secretly agrees.

It's ok guys, I got the cat out of the bag.
We can all be real here and admit the Truth I swear to you it Will Free you from this world of lies.

Just be ready to think things you were taught never to think. Those taboo ideas are exactly where we need to investigate.

And it turns out we're all in denial and lying about this to virtue signal to others how good we are.

The Truth is all those "evil bad guys" are just normal ppl like you and me and not as bad as we claim - and all those "good guys" were far more flawed and morally inept than we are willing to admit.

The human body contains a spectrum of good and evil within its Heart and all are sinners. Everyone does good things too even Hitler opened a door for an old lady or said thank you to a waiter.

Our demonization or glorification of humans is both inaccurate and wrong. Its the cult of personality and needs to be deeply reevaluated.

I did bad stuff before and am corrupted by hate and anger and I even lie too. I'll lie to myself as Im walking along thinking up excuses for myself - then I'm like why am I lying to myself when no one else sees? Damn it felt pathological as I recognized it.

This isn't about "me" it's about everyone. By figuring out me I'll figure out you - Sun Tzu.

So the Truth is Hitler Stalin Mao Pol Pot, theyre all normal. This is basic human nature.

People condemn those men because they were indoctrinated into a "us vs them" bad vs good paradigm when that's not realistic at all. It's extremist expectations and no human is the embodiment of perfect evil or good. Even Jesus screamed and threw the tables down and was pissed off.

Our bizarre desire to ignore one side of a human dichotomy and focus entirely on the other side to justify hating or loving them must be confronted and examined.

Perhaps we got it all wrong?
Perhaps the real problem is entirely in our mode of thinking and denial of our very real nature that we all share and hide from each other despite that we all are going through the same internal battles?

So are Antifa terrorists? Nah they're normal ppl.

I'm the real terrorist because I'm on the quest for Truth in whatever form it manifests in, and the Truth is Terrible and Terrific, Terrifying and yet down to Terrestrial.

I open my mouth and ppl # themselves.

I been to jail twice and am facing more time for stuff I say. My words are terrorism - and I'm suicide bombing your beliefs with the explosive TRUTH.


posted on Oct, 12 2020 @ 09:35 PM
a reply to: FinallyAwake

As I thought out the last few posts I said exactly yours again and again...

At every step Im like "wow wtf am I thinking?? Hell yeah Im gonna post this its wayyy too good" LOL.

In retrospect I gotta say what I posted was some pretty awesome stuff. It's mind bending and challenges you to reevaluate your beliefs and directly confronts each person on a human level.

After fleshing that idea out I'm pretty stoked. I just killed one of the biggest lies ever right in front of everyone lol.

What could I possibly come up with next? I guess we'll find out.

Think about it, I'm saying violence does solve problems and that everyone agrees in practice despite that we are all indoctrinated into flat out denying this.

Our whole civilization is built on this denial. I bet denying the reality of violence causes more violence than just accepting it as our nature.

When I said it appears virtually everything we were taught to think about things, especially violence, turns out to be a steaming pile of BS lies - it seems more and more likely that was true...

Question everything especially the stuff you wholeheartedly claim to believe in.

This (questioning) is the key to unlocking the chains (untrue bs) that have bound you to a vicious cycle of internal dissonance and confusion and suffering.

I'm definitely the real terrorist.
One idea can cause massive effects and ideas are violent by nature because they clash with other ideas and it's always a battle.

Every saying we say is BS in some way.
Don't get me started lol...

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posted on Oct, 12 2020 @ 09:59 PM
Experimentally I asked random ppl today "does violence solve problems?" and every single person said No.

Now that I figured this out, I'm baffled and shocked that I unquestioningly believed this too. For my whole life...

I didn't say violence was justified or was good per se. I was simply asking if it "solved problems" as a psychological test to see if anyone dissected my question or had the balls to tell the Truth.

Political correctness enslaved everyone.

posted on Oct, 12 2020 @ 10:10 PM
a reply to: Antipathy17

Although you partially inspired todays posts with your question about Antifa ...

I think my response is so wide reaching and at the core of our problems as a species that I should probably upgrade this to its own thread as it's worthy.

Antifa getting away with murder is a mere symptom on the surface of a deep tendency towards denial that festers beneath, hidden away in the darkness of our rotting souls.


I'm so relieved and happy to say the Truth and share it.

Antifa the cops the Republicans it doesnt matter who - we all believe Violence DOES Solve problems that's why they are in the streets going nuts.

Those that see them in the street as a problem want violence to solve the violence problem.

Explain how does more violence solve violence? Easy. It kills. Dead ppl don't do anything except decompose.

A dead fly doesn't get in your food or lay eggs in your trashcan. There's only 1 way to solve this problem most of the time.

Sure you can ask the fly to leave and open the door and wait but usually you just let more bugs in that you gotta eventually kill.

Is there a single shred of evidence disputing the revelation that violence solves problems? I'm doubtful.

A general rule of thumb is that if everyone believes it, it's probably one of the biggest lies ever.

posted on Oct, 13 2020 @ 07:18 AM
a reply to: muzzleflash

Well yeah, you're not wrong!

I've always hated us as a race, ever since The Matrix came out, where Agent Smith described us to Neo, that was my lightbulb moment.

"I'd like to share a revelation that Ive had during my time here. It came to me when I tried to classify your species, and I realised that humans are not actually mammals. Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment; but you humans do not. Instead you multiply, and multiply, until every resource is consumed. The only way for you to survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern... a virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer on this planet, you are a plague, and we... are the cure."

Then add our violent nature to this too, where as a race all we do is literally kill each other and everything around us, including the beautiful planet we live on, and how we are naturally drawn to violence (enter muzzleflash) and boom, that's us in a nutshell imo.

You do sound like you're in a manic high lol, but you're still right dude.

All we can do is continuously try to strive to be the best versions of ourselves as we can be. Maybe reminding ourselves of this horrible truth as motivation to do so too.

I can handle the truth (thanks to agent Smith lol) but yeah the majority can't.


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posted on Oct, 13 2020 @ 07:19 AM
I dropped this thread cause muzzleflash went on a tangent that I was always willing to be confrontational about but honest its not worth the effort. Dude wrote a #ing book in reply that literally has no relevancy. It's jumbled garbage. He's willing to put in more effort to be retarded then I am willing to try and figure out and fix the retard.

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