Trump Admitted To Hospital.

originally posted by: JAGStorm

or.............maybe just maybe someone not wearing a mask, someone who has been seen in large crowds, or
someone downplaying a pandemic. I know this is a conspiracy site, but sometimes things are exactly as they are.

You touch a fire you get burnt..

Your post can be applied to everyone on the left too expect for Biden who lives in his bunker. The president has said this is serious about 200 times, with daily press conferences for like the first two months.


Here is what Fauci says...



Your bias opinions are just that...But what they are not is factual...lol

a reply to: av8r007

Does anyone have a list of the journalists who attended the event?

a reply to: scraedtosleep

That number was from October alone, the total changed several times over the years going higher based on forensic investigation. It's an interesting study to undertake, and seeing some of the parallels between then and now, for example the mask resistance. I have a feeling that in another hundred years attitudes about that will still be the same as they were in 1918 and 2020.

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

What a great ad for HCQ and the triple pack! He is really an exceptional sales person. He should have a show...

You really are disgusting.
But crack on.
The reaction from the Hateful Left is just furthering the exposure of what they stand for.

I'm disgusting?

The day before yesterday, Trump tested negative.

Today, he tests positive and the same day goes to hospital? The onset of symptoms from COVID-19 aren't that fast.

Trump is doing what he is doing to garner media coverage and sympathy. Anyone can figure that out. He isn't sick yet and doesn't (yet) have my sympathy. I'm not gullible.

Nor can I simply write off the dead from COVID-19 due in part to Trump's inaction and trying to play down a health crisis.

We now know Trump never was a successful business man, he owes tax he probably can't repay. He has misrepresented nearly everything about himself. He is a self-aggrandizing liar.

America once was a country with a President at the helm. Now, it is a very loose confederation of states vying with each other for a cut of the Federal pie with a President who palms off the responsibility for unifying them, just so he can blame someone else. So America has been politically weakened by Trump and his policies of division.

Economically the USA is the weakest it has ever been for decades.

The rolling shutdowns are uncoordinated and people travelling from one state to another can reinfect each other even if a local lock-down had really worked functionally. And so the lock-downs that have happened, have been rendered ineffectual.

Other countries have had lock-downs and come out the other side with the epidemic reduced to something manageable. Not so the USA.

You can't blame the individual states or cities for that. The President is supposed to be the one to coordinate the actions of the individual states in a national emergency - defending from all threats domestic and foreign. He hasn't.

The President should have implemented the war production act to finance the production of PPE, respirators and the like. He was too busy trying to tell everyone it was nothing - while hundreds of thousands died.

The President should have followed the documented procedures for dealing with an epidemic instead of ignoring them and suggesting that it was somebody else's job.

In the case of the riots and civil unrest, the President should also have taken the lead in reconciling, dealing with the grievances of his citizens, and fixing the problems, to reestablish rule of law and the equitability supposedly guaranteed by following the Constitution.

Trump clearly doesn't give a damn about America, or Americans and I won't buy into him trying to paint himself as the innocent and affronted party. He is culpable.

originally posted by: GravitySucks
a reply to: frogs453

Exactly. Fever free for 24 hours does not compute.

But all the Trumpster's take pity on him for his 'terrible malady'.

The thing is, I can't believe anything that comes out of the White House at the moment. None of it makes sense, except as propaganda.

a reply to: chr0naut

I really don't wanna reply to your whole post becaue number one your not a medical expert .

Secondly your not a Whitehouse insider so you actually have no idea what your talking about .

The President should have followed the documented procedures for dealing with an epidemic instead of ignoring them and suggesting that it was somebody else's job.

But I will reply to this .

He ignored nothing he did absolutly everything his advisers told him to do.

The " WHO "created the procedures for dealing with epidemics , I'm talking about the same WHO that lied and delayed declaring COVID a pandemic now why exactly they delayed God only knows but it has alot to do with them being in bed with China .

Trump and every other World Leader was building there plans around what the WHO was saying , now had we known they were trying to cover something sure things could have been different , If China had just told us what was really coming things could have been different .

I would like for you to tell me what Trump could have done differently in dealing with this pandemic short of challenging Covid to a one on one boxing match which is basically what the MSM says he should have done.


The media sir the MAIN STREAM MEDIA does not care about America matter of fact they hate the very idea of America .

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: GravitySucks
a reply to: frogs453

Exactly. Fever free for 24 hours does not compute.

But all the Trumpster's take pity on him for his 'terrible malady'.

The thing is, I can't believe anything that comes out of the White House at the moment. None of it makes sense, except as propaganda.

If you would take the time to shut down your blind hatred and read a little about Covid you would find that Covid-19 often presents without a fever .

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow
a reply to: chr0naut

I really don't wanna reply to your whole post becaue number one your not a medical expert .

Secondly your not a Whitehouse insider so you actually have no idea what your talking about .

The President should have followed the documented procedures for dealing with an epidemic instead of ignoring them and suggesting that it was somebody else's job.

But I will reply to this .

He ignored nothing he did absolutly everything his advisers told him to do.

The " WHO "created the procedures for dealing with epidemics , I'm talking about the same WHO that lied and delayed declaring COVID a pandemic now why exactly they delayed God only knows but it has alot to do with them being in bed with China .

Trump and every other World Leader was building there plans around what the WHO was saying , now had we known they were trying to cover something sure things could have been different , If China had just told us what was really coming things could have been different .

I would like for you to tell me what Trump could have donw differently in dealing with this pandemic short of challenging Covid to a one on one boxing match which is basically what the MSM says he should have done.

The media sir the MAIN STREAM MEDIA does not care about America matter of fact they hate the very idea of America .

FEMA, the CDC, the WHO, private specialists, academics, and other Federal agencies, all took part in drawing up those procedural manuals.

Also, Trump, as I previously noted, could have implemented the war production act on the grounds of national emergency. He could have coordinated all the states so they were all acting and dealing with the issue in an integrated way, with strong borders between states where one had un-managed outbreak, and with open borders between unaffected areas. He could have allocated PPE and essential medical equipment on the basis of actual and numerical need, and not on the basis of the state being in favor with the POTUS.

And he could stop with the false reassurances to the public and alternate blaming of others, and actually got the general public to work together to maintain the lock-downs and quarantines until the numbers showed that they had got on top of the situation. As it is, half the nation thinks they will suffer brain death if they wear a mask outside for a few weeks, or that the lock-downs are permanent, when the truth is that most other countries turned things around in weeks.

Also, China has no responsibility or mandate to deal with American internal problems. That is the meaning of 'sovereign states' - they deal with their own issues, separately. I can't believe that anyone would be crying about China's inaction in regard to solving the USA's problems. That's just nuts. A further example of a weak leader doing little and not taking the responsibility.

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: GravitySucks
a reply to: frogs453

Exactly. Fever free for 24 hours does not compute.

But all the Trumpster's take pity on him for his 'terrible malady'.

The thing is, I can't believe anything that comes out of the White House at the moment. None of it makes sense, except as propaganda.

If you would take the time to shut down your blind hatred and read a little about Covid you would find that Covid-19 often presents without a fever .

He has only just tested positive. He has been tested every day. The normal course of the disease is that it ramps up over a period of 14 days, where it becomes it's most dangerous. What they are saying doesn't make any sense.

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow
a reply to: chr0naut

I really don't wanna reply to your whole post becaue number one your not a medical expert .

Secondly your not a Whitehouse insider so you actually have no idea what your talking about .

The President should have followed the documented procedures for dealing with an epidemic instead of ignoring them and suggesting that it was somebody else's job.

But I will reply to this .

He ignored nothing he did absolutly everything his advisers told him to do.

The " WHO "created the procedures for dealing with epidemics , I'm talking about the same WHO that lied and delayed declaring COVID a pandemic now why exactly they delayed God only knows but it has alot to do with them being in bed with China .

Trump and every other World Leader was building there plans around what the WHO was saying , now had we known they were trying to cover something sure things could have been different , If China had just told us what was really coming things could have been different .

I would like for you to tell me what Trump could have donw differently in dealing with this pandemic short of challenging Covid to a one on one boxing match which is basically what the MSM says he should have done.

The media sir the MAIN STREAM MEDIA does not care about America matter of fact they hate the very idea of America .

China has no responsibility or mandate to deal with American internal problems. That is the meaning of 'sovereign states' - they deal with their own issues, separately.

I can't believe that anyone would be crying about China's inaction in regard to solving the USA's problems. That's just nuts. A further example of a weak leader doing little and not taking the responsibility.

Your blaming Trump for something that was out of his control , the problem originated in China and then was covered in lies then made it's way to Americas heartland and went off like a bomb .

What happen after that is the fault of our leadership yes but not Trump alone the man simply did what he was told, he even tried to shut travel from China immediately and was called racist for doing so.

It's like an ICBM was launched from China and then hit the American coast , but some how it's Trumps fault for not containing the explosion.

Mate your not that dumb or dense so stop acting like it.


And it's not an American internal Problem how could it be an internal problem when the Problem originated someplace else ?

a reply to: chr0naut

What is the purpose of the W.H.O again?

I thought they were supposed to be the Independent organisation reporting on the world's outbreaks -- you know like officially declaring a Pandemic so the world government can react and active policies to prevent a spread?

Until the information is known it is pretty hard to put into place things like travel bans when everything you do has to go thru multiple layers of courts to justify the action.

originally posted by: puzzled2
a reply to: chr0naut

What is the purpose of the W.H.O again?

I thought they were supposed to be the Independent organisation reporting on the world's outbreaks -- you know like officially declaring a Pandemic so the world government can react and active policies to prevent a spread?

Until the information is known it is pretty hard to put into place things like travel bans when everything you do has to go thru multiple layers of courts to justify the action.

Amen and thank you

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow
a reply to: chr0naut

I really don't wanna reply to your whole post becaue number one your not a medical expert .

Secondly your not a Whitehouse insider so you actually have no idea what your talking about .

The President should have followed the documented procedures for dealing with an epidemic instead of ignoring them and suggesting that it was somebody else's job.

But I will reply to this .

He ignored nothing he did absolutly everything his advisers told him to do.

The " WHO "created the procedures for dealing with epidemics , I'm talking about the same WHO that lied and delayed declaring COVID a pandemic now why exactly they delayed God only knows but it has alot to do with them being in bed with China .

Trump and every other World Leader was building there plans around what the WHO was saying , now had we known they were trying to cover something sure things could have been different , If China had just told us what was really coming things could have been different .

I would like for you to tell me what Trump could have donw differently in dealing with this pandemic short of challenging Covid to a one on one boxing match which is basically what the MSM says he should have done.

The media sir the MAIN STREAM MEDIA does not care about America matter of fact they hate the very idea of America .

China has no responsibility or mandate to deal with American internal problems. That is the meaning of 'sovereign states' - they deal with their own issues, separately.

I can't believe that anyone would be crying about China's inaction in regard to solving the USA's problems. That's just nuts. A further example of a weak leader doing little and not taking the responsibility.

Your blaming Trump for something that was out of his control , the problem originated in China and then was covered in lies then made it's way to Americas heartland and went off like a bomb .

What happen after that is the fault of our leadership yes but not Trump alone the man simply did what he was told, he even tried to shut travel from China immediately and was called racist for doing so.

It's like an ICBM was launched from China and then hit the American coast , but some how it's Trumps fault for not containing the explosion.

Mate your not that dumb or dense so stop acting like it.


And it's not an American internal Problem how could it be an internal problem when the Problem originated someplace else ?

Was it really out of Trump's control?

That same disease 'bomb' has hit every single other nation on Earth, including China. Most of the have gotten over it already. Some of them have even gotten over of the second wave.

In the case of New Zealand, where I live, the sources of the virus were from Iraq, Italy and the USA. I don't think any outbreak has been traced directly back to China from here.

So do I blame the USA because our epidemic was partly from them?

And, if I did allocate blame, would it do anything at all about the situation?

Trump speaks from Walter Reed Hospital - update on his health situation

www.youtube.com...

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow
a reply to: chr0naut

I really don't wanna reply to your whole post becaue number one your not a medical expert .

Secondly your not a Whitehouse insider so you actually have no idea what your talking about .

The President should have followed the documented procedures for dealing with an epidemic instead of ignoring them and suggesting that it was somebody else's job.

But I will reply to this .

He ignored nothing he did absolutly everything his advisers told him to do.

The " WHO "created the procedures for dealing with epidemics , I'm talking about the same WHO that lied and delayed declaring COVID a pandemic now why exactly they delayed God only knows but it has alot to do with them being in bed with China .

Trump and every other World Leader was building there plans around what the WHO was saying , now had we known they were trying to cover something sure things could have been different , If China had just told us what was really coming things could have been different .

I would like for you to tell me what Trump could have donw differently in dealing with this pandemic short of challenging Covid to a one on one boxing match which is basically what the MSM says he should have done.

The media sir the MAIN STREAM MEDIA does not care about America matter of fact they hate the very idea of America .

China has no responsibility or mandate to deal with American internal problems. That is the meaning of 'sovereign states' - they deal with their own issues, separately.

I can't believe that anyone would be crying about China's inaction in regard to solving the USA's problems. That's just nuts. A further example of a weak leader doing little and not taking the responsibility.

Your blaming Trump for something that was out of his control , the problem originated in China and then was covered in lies then made it's way to Americas heartland and went off like a bomb .

What happen after that is the fault of our leadership yes but not Trump alone the man simply did what he was told, he even tried to shut travel from China immediately and was called racist for doing so.

It's like an ICBM was launched from China and then hit the American coast , but some how it's Trumps fault for not containing the explosion.

Mate your not that dumb or dense so stop acting like it.


And it's not an American internal Problem how could it be an internal problem when the Problem originated someplace else ?

That same disease has hit every single other nation on Earth, including China.

In the case of New Zealand, where I live, the sources of the virus were from Iraq, Italy and the USA. I don't think any outbreak has been traced directly back to China from here.

So do I blame the USA because our epidemic was partly from them?

And, if I did allocate blame, would it do anything at all about the situation?

Mate it originated in China .

Just because it filtered through 4 other countries before getting to New Zealand makes no difference , there would have been no virus if not for China .

Your allocating the blame to Trump , yet you ask what good does it do to allocate blame ?

The simple truth is none of this would have happen if not for China and the WHO , the rest of us including the USA and New Zealand dealt with the situation as best we could .

The Political situation in America is way different than New Zealand , Trump was fighting the Media and Political Psychos at every turn to make things happen .

Let me ask you do you think ol Joe Biden could have done a better job? I'm sure the Media would have made it seem so.


We are talking about the USA here mate think about our population think about the amount of travel in and out of this country every day think about the amount of goods shipped in and out of this country everyday of course we are still fighting this Virus we probably will be fighting it for years .

originally posted by: puzzled2
a reply to: chr0naut

What is the purpose of the W.H.O again?

I thought they were supposed to be the Independent organisation reporting on the world's outbreaks -- you know like officially declaring a Pandemic so the world government can react and active policies to prevent a spread?

Until the information is known it is pretty hard to put into place things like travel bans when everything you do has to go thru multiple layers of courts to justify the action.

The US didn't have to wait for the WHO to declare it a pandemic. Do you think doctors just wait around to see if their patients have officially defined diseases before treating them? As soon as there were sick, the doctors were on the job.

The government knew there were cases of it in country and that it was obviously spreading. The CDC was warning Trump and he was telling everyone it would go away - for months!

The WHO probably could have called it a pandemic 12 days earlier than they did. But five months AFTER they called it a pandemic, Trump was still saying "it will just go away".

If the WHO had some blame for inaction, then Trump had way more blame. But because he could never admit the truth about there being a problem 'on his watch', he lied, and smiled, and waved, and lied again.

The US didn't have to wait for the WHO to declare it a pandemic. Do you think doctors just wait around to see if their patients have officially defined diseases before treating them? As soon as there were sick, the doctors were on the job.

a reply to: chr0naut

Come on really ? They would have crucified Trump if he made the moves prior to the pandemic that we made after , you know it and I know it so don't even go there.

The government knew there were cases of it in country and that it was obviously spreading. The CDC was warning Trump and he was telling everyone it would go away - for months!

Mate the people who were going to listen to Trump listened the ones that were not going to didn't listen end of story. Regardless even if he was downplaying it the FED still made the proper moves so I'm not seeing your point.

If the WHO had some blame for inaction, then Trump had way more blame. But because he could never admit the truth about there being a problem 'on his watch', he lied, and smiled, and waved, and lied again.

So panic would have been the better course of action ?

Once it got here the virus was going to spread there was nothing we could do about it , yes he down played it and in doing so did what a leader is supposed to do stayed composed and keep people from panicking.

Imagine if Winston Churchill would have ran through the streets of Britain screaming panic and doom , that little island would be a German speaking nation and the world would look much different.

Churchill lied , smiled and lied again and in doing so saved his nation.

a reply to: chr0naut
So in the start of the impeachment -- Democrats and MSM response to his action is ---

Jan. 31: Trump issues the "Proclamation on Suspension of Entry as Immigrants and Nonimmigrants of Persons who Pose a Risk of Transmitting 2019 Novel Coronavirus." Later in the day, Biden campaigns in Iowa and tells the crowd that Americans “need to have a president who they can trust what he says about it, that he is going to act rationally about it. ... This is no time for Donald Trump’s record of hysteria and xenophobia – hysterical xenophobia – and fearmongering to lead the way instead of science.”

Also in the wake of the ban on Jan. 31:

An article in The New York Times quotes epidemiologist Dr. Michael Osterholm as saying that Trump's decision to restrict travel from China was "more of an emotional or political reaction."
The Washington Post runs a story quoting a Chinese official asking for "empathy" and slamming the White House for acting "in disregard of WHO recommendation against travel restrictions."
Vox tweets: "Is this going to be a deadly pandemic? No." The tweet was deleted weeks later.
Canada's health minister Patty Hajdu, who would later say there was no reason to doubt Chinese coronavirus data, says the risk of the virus is "low" and that early-warning systems are working "exactly as they should." The "spread of the disease is contained," Hajdu claimed.
Death counts indicated that 213 people had died and nearly 10,000 had been infected.

source
Make up your minds Are you run by a single power or multiple levels ?

What was the Governor of New York doing in January?
Where was the 3rd in line to the seat of the president? Was she there helping or in Chinatown under mining everything Trump said and tried to do?

You not a good historian are you?

Everything about this motherf#%! is fake.

The WH released photos of Donald "working" from the hospital





The incompetent fake conman signing blank papers. Lol. Lunacy

a reply to: XCrycek

You know, I'm going to say something that is probably going to be removed for a manners violation, then again this is the mud pit, so here we go.

You are without a doubt one of the most vitriol filled, negative people I have ever had the chance to across on this forum in my 13 years here. I don't believe you've had a positive, or even neutral thing to say to anyone about anything during your time on this site. I don't believe you're a paid shill as some may claim, I just think you're a terrible person in general, and quite frankly a troll.

We can have discussions that are productive on this site, and have had for as long as I've been here. However when you sling mud (or feces in most cases), you're trying to get in as many dirty comments as possible and go below the belt. I don't wish ill on anyone, however I would not shed a tear if you vanished from this site completely. This site needs less people of your character and disposition than unlike any time in the site's history.

I guess what I'm really getting at is, piss off you wannabe X-files character troll, no one takes anything you say seriously, and I doubt they ever will. I hope you can get whatever help you need to resolve the issues in your life that cause you to be like this.