Capitalists To Be First People Lined Up Against The Wall And Shot In Revolution Tweet Ex Twitter CEO

a reply to: strongfp

There are labor laws. Beyond that, its a free market.

Incidentally, ideas are a marketplace. And it seems that when ones ideas arent bought in the market of ideas, threats of violence are used by some. That is truly pathetic. If your ideas dont suck people will buy them.

a reply to: strongfp

Yeah, I don't practice at it much. /s

That is not what this is about.

Read the tweet. Don't skip over the firing squad
and revolution terms.

This is about intimidation, threatening peoples
very lives if they won't bend the knee to socialist,
communist and Marxist models of business.

Nice try, but pathetic.

a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

The law? says who?

a reply to: strongfp

Wages are a marketplace. Open market is the basis of our system. I do not see any offerings of a better idea. Only threats of violence when bad ideas are rejected.

a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

It's not a 'free market'. That's the fun part.

a reply to: strongfp

? The law.

In this case its typically civil law. In extreme cases its criminal law

originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: strongfp

It's quite simple, private ownership of goods and property. You're either against your neighbor and want to take everything they have, or you're living beside your neighbor and allow them to work with you when needed and share capital and labor to both win.

Oh, are you confused!

I own my home. It is mine. I will do with it as I wish, and anyone else who wishes to challenge me on that be damned. My neighbor owns his property. He does with it as he wishes. He would likely make the same statement I just did. I am under no obligation to "share" (read: give) what I have with him, and he has no obligation to do so with me. What's mine is mine; what's his is his. But I do not want that which is his: his property, his home, his car, his tools... I can acquire things I want without wanting to take from others.

I suppose you cannot. A shame.

TheRedneck

This here is one of if not the best posts ever here.
You my dude nailed it. I actually saved that dude.

a reply to: strongfp

No. Because we have minimum wage propping up a floor. Beyond that its a very free market.

But you are talking im circles with no concise point.

a reply to: strongfp

You only have property rights because someone allows you do. What's stopping your neighbor from killing you and your family and taking your property?

Three things are stopping him: the law, as you mention, common decency (which you must not understand), and knowing that I can kill him as easily as he can kill me... easier if I am in my own home since I am more familiar with the layout.

It is quite interesting that all three are now under attack by fools like Costovo: defunding police to make law impotent and unenforceable, attacks against capitalism as per the tweet that started this thread (a common belief between people as to how goods and services are exchanged), and attempts to remove gun rights to disarm people and make them helpless against attack.

I see you.

TheRedneck

a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

Wages are a marketplace? really then why do companies make workers sign agreements to not discuss wages?

a reply to: strongfp

That has nothing to do with a market. Thats employment agreement. Which is just part of that market.

If no one will flip a burger for 7.25, the wage goes up. If no one will sign an agreement, they go away. Labor has power, but its always undercut by someone willing to hustle more for less. That is a market.

a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

That's profit above all. Explain to me anywhere outside the US who follows this sort of model religiously?

You are making classic Friedmand and Sowell talking points. And you are falling into the trap of separating society from business.

a reply to: TheRedneck

Your drifting from the point that capitalism cannot work without cooperation and some sort of contract between you and your competition to build a better society.

a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

I got my current job by being willing to do it for half what most demand. In so doing ive grown my own earning potential much higher than it would have been otherwise.

What we have are a bunch of millenials who earned bull# liberal arts degrees that cannot be monetized and now demand what they chose to not earn. It sucks that 4 year degree in journalism is worthless. Bad decisions have consequences.

a reply to: strongfp

Exploitation is quite simple, you either give back to your worker, or you don't. Just don't be surprised when guys like Mr Twitter man make bold statements if you take advantage of your workforce.

Show me somewhere that does not give back to their worker? Are you familiar with labor laws? About the worst thing an employer can do to get on the wrong side of the law is to not pay their employees.

Let's take your example of building a fence. If I want a fence and I cannot build it alone, I will need to hire people to help me. When I hire them, I agree to pay them money for their labor and they agree to provide their labor for money. There is no exploitation in that. If they don't think I offer enough money, they do not take the contract. If I think they want too much money, I do not take the contract. The agreement is mutual.

However, there are those who would then decide that because the amount they agreed to is not enough, they should own part of the fence I paid to have built. There's your exploitation. I paid the workers what they agreed to to get my fence built. I provided the materials to build the fence. It is my fence. Just because someone was paid to help me build it, it is still not their fence.

TheRedneck

originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

That's profit above all. Explain to me anywhere outside the US who follows this sort of model religiously?

You are making classic Friedmand and Sowell talking points. And you are falling into the trap of separating society from business.

You're adding "woke" to capitalism which means it isn't capitalism any more.

It's socialism, or communism.

a reply to: strongfp

Im not falling. Im standing. You are very misguided in your assessment.

And have yet to make a salient point.

a reply to: strongfp

Your drifting from the point that capitalism cannot work without cooperation and some sort of contract between you and your competition to build a better society.

Law is not cooperation. Cooperation is voluntary; law is mandatory. I cooperate with whoever I wish and refuse to cooperate with whoever I wish.

Mr. Costovo is not promoting cooperation. He is promoting martial law under his own control.

TheRedneck

a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

Im not falling. Im standing.

It appears some do not understand the difference.

TheRedneck

a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

What we have are a bunch of millenials who earned bull# liberal arts degrees that cannot be monetized and now demand what they chose to not earn. It sucks that 4 year degree in journalism is worthless. Bad decisions have consequences.

Ahhh there it is. I was waiting for the meltdown.

OK boomer, I'll just give em the Ol' FIRM HANDSHAKE, and WORK REALLY HARD!