Trump-Biden Presidential Debate Sept-29-2020 9pm Eastern Time

Biden spoke about Trump lying so much that I think he's setting up a reason not to do any more debates.

originally posted by: Arnie123
a reply to: pianopraze

Independents and Moderates want a foundation and if that means dominating ugly and pretty and not looking weak like Biden, I think they’ll make that jump, just by look at the economy pre COVID and the Acknowledgment that the Economy is rebounding quickly post COVID, the “V” shape recovery model.

After watching these debates I am wondering how Independents and Moderates are going to judge each man's behavior?

Trump was clearly boorish tonight; but he was also energetic and the fighter.

Biden was very slow and frail looking; but he did appear to be the more mature in the room.

How does the Moderate/Independent, who just lost their job because of COVID-19 and is struggling to make ends meet, judge this behavior as they decide who they are going to vote for?

originally posted by: DBCowboy
I wonder what Bernie and AOC (and the squat) thought of tonights debate where Biden would not embrace the socialists.

It's my #1 gripe with him. Don't bite the hand that feeds ya, Joe!

originally posted by: DBCowboy
Biden spoke about Trump lying so much that I think he's setting up a reason not to do any more debates.

His campaign just said that Biden will do the other debates and he would never give up a chance to speak to America.

a reply to: DanDanDat

It depends.

Some will look to see who would create a government to make a bigger safety net.


Some will look to see who would create more freedom for individual efforts and opportunities.

originally posted by: shockedonlooker
Biden didn't do as badly as I expected, but it annoyed me that all Wallace did was talk over Trump, which WAS expected.

Yeah, I mean we all know Wallace is no fan of Trump. That's the only reason he got to do the debate.

The Left will be like "Oh he was a Fox moderator!"

Yeah, and Fox has diversity on their staff. It's not 100% pro-Trump like CNN or MSNBC's is 100% anti-Trump.

originally posted by: walkinghomer

originally posted by: DBCowboy
Biden spoke about Trump lying so much that I think he's setting up a reason not to do any more debates.

His campaign just said that Biden will do the other debates and he would never give up a chance to speak to America.

And his campaign would never lie.

*cue eye-rolling meme*

originally posted by: DBCowboy
Biden spoke about Trump lying so much that I think he's setting up a reason not to do any more debates.

I could really see them pulling the trigger on it now.

Biden had a decent showing. They're not gonna take the chance with 2 more.

originally posted by: bigsnowman

originally posted by: DBCowboy
I wonder what Bernie and AOC (and the squat) thought of tonights debate where Biden would not embrace the socialists.

It's my #1 gripe with him. Don't bite the hand that feeds ya, Joe!

The Bolsheviks won't be happy with Uncle Joe.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: DanDanDat

It depends.

Some will look to see who would create a government to make a bigger safety net.


Some will look to see who would create more freedom for individual efforts and opportunities.

We are talking about Moderates though; I think its safe to say that a moderate is going to agree that a mixture of both these thoughts is the proper way forward.

originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: DBCowboy
Biden spoke about Trump lying so much that I think he's setting up a reason not to do any more debates.

I could really see them pulling the trigger on it now.

Biden had a decent showing. They're not gonna take the chance with 2 more.

Biden didn't have projectile diarrhea tonight.

For the left, that's actually a win.

originally posted by: DanDanDat

After watching these debates I am wondering how Independents and Moderates are going to judge each man's behavior?

Trump was clearly boorish tonight; but he was also energetic and the fighter.

Biden was very slow and frail looking; but he did appear to be the more mature in the room.

How does the Moderate/Independent, who just lost their job because of COVID-19 and is struggling to make ends meet, judge this behavior as they decide who they are going to vote for?

Well stated. And ... good question.

My wife works at Walmart. They have been hiring like crazy. She's been there three years and is about to get promoted to over 20$/hour. There are lots of Jobs right now, and I believe more jobs were created in last bit than any point in history? I think that's one of his constant points at rallies.

Trump should have pointed out, like he did at his debates, that real wages for working people have risen more during his three years, then under 8 years of Obama. He points this out at every rally. How energy prices are lower, and Biden would raise them sky high. He totally was off tonight compared to any rally.

I think he made a mistake going low.

He should have gone high and acted Presidential and pointed out all the good things of his Presidency the media refuses to cover.

originally posted by: DanDanDat

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: DanDanDat

It depends.

Some will look to see who would create a government to make a bigger safety net.


Some will look to see who would create more freedom for individual efforts and opportunities.

We are talking about Moderates though; I think its safe to say that a moderate is going to agree that a mixture of both these thoughts is the proper way forward.

Compromise is impossible.

There's no such thing as a moderate anymore.

originally posted by: underpass61

originally posted by: putnam6
When Biden does that look at the camera and talking with his hands it's the most phony thing about him.

My wife said Trump needs to talk directly to the camera to connect to the people. I pointed out Biden only did that when things were getting uncomfortable for him and he wanted to derail Trump's responses.

I know Biden definitely pulled that out of desperation. Trump probably should speak to the audience but 1 He does that at his rallies very well and 2 He had to pretty much deal with MIke Wallace while Joe blabbered on and on. Its just not in Trump's nature he has been attacked for 3 and 1/2 years, media is hounding him,the left is hounding him,the fact that COVID hasn't derailed him speaks volumes on the weakness of the Democratic Party Joe "I am The Party" Biden. LOL he has been waiting decades to say that, and don't tell me Biden doesn't have an ego too.

Rewatching it..

Wallace began , no cheers, no booze???

Booooo

a reply to: DanDanDat

That’s difficult to tell because I give Mods/Ind the benefit of the doubt in that they are educated and critical about politics.

I think Coronovirus really made people look at the system to see how it works and why it works the way it works.

I also think they have enough exposure to see that their financial abilities being affected by Covid warrants some action by Big Government, however they then see the Hyper Partisan sides gridlocked into coming up with an aid package for those needing it.
They will see the gridlock and then look at the President, who has stay within his branch of power. His EOs are a great way to show that he is doing what he can within his own power, but it isn’t enough.
In other words, they see action by a President. They same applies tonight, despite his interruptions, he really stood his ground and made sure he got his word in, strength, energy and invigoration.
I think they look at Joe and see a man who is beholden to the left and will keep the country shutdown further and that prospect, with an already dwindling bank account doesn’t look good.

In fact, taking a step back, the Democrats are all about expanding, however that message is lost during a state of financial disparity from a Virus. People, right now, don’t want to hear about spending money and raising taxes, they want to hear how they are going to get by next month and the President pushing agenda and legislation, especially updates on the aid package not to mention keeping states open and relaxing restrictions to help build back consumer confidence.

Ultimately, I think they will go with Trump once again as even though he is rather bullish, he is at the very least, trying to get things done, as opposed to a politician spending 47 years in Politics enriching his family, especially his son.

a reply to: DBCowboy

Think they will have one in Joe’s basement?

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: DanDanDat

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: DanDanDat

It depends.

Some will look to see who would create a government to make a bigger safety net.


Some will look to see who would create more freedom for individual efforts and opportunities.

We are talking about Moderates though; I think its safe to say that a moderate is going to agree that a mixture of both these thoughts is the proper way forward.

Compromise is impossible.

There's no such thing as a moderate anymore.

I believe there are; I think they've just learned that its best to nod and agree when confronted by non moderates who are finding it more and more difficult to keep their emotions in check when talking about politics.

a reply to: DBCowboy

Some will look to see who would create a government to make a bigger safety net.


Some will look to see who would create more freedom for individual efforts and opportunities.

Why is it that individual efforts and opportunities can't be a safety net?

TheRedneck

a reply to: DanDanDat

*shrugs*

Okay.

Agree to disagree.