Grand Jury Decision on Breonna Taylor Case

originally posted by: lincolnparadox
a reply to: Stormdancer777

Um, they served a warrant on the wrong house and killed a lady. What would you have done in that situation?

Oh my God.

You don't even know the first thing about this case.

They did indeed have a warrant for Breonna Taylor's residence. That "wrong house" narrative was debunked months ago.

You need to rethink wherever you get your information from because they are purposefully keeping you uninformed. You just made a complete fool out of yourself because they don't tell you the truth. Get new sources.

a reply to: face23785

These people's rationale is coming from a bs meme. If anybody was swayed by russian memes it was these ppl.

The meme said something to the extent of Imagine your home sleeping in your bed after working as an EMT during the covid pandemic only to be awoken by someone busting down your door. Your bf shoots at what you think is a home invader only for yge police to shoot you 8 times. Then imagine they were at the wrong house and had the guy in custody they were supposedly looking for.

The people that believe that type of nonsense never change their mind, because they wont perform their due dilligence to actually look at all the evidence presented.

originally posted by: TheLead
a reply to: face23785

These people's rationale is coming from a bs meme. If anybody was swayed by russian memes it was these ppl.

The meme said something to the extent of Imagine your home sleeping in your bed after working as an EMT during the covid pandemic only to be awoken by someone busting down your door. Your bf shoots at what you think is a home invader only for yge police to shoot you 8 times. Then imagine they were at the wrong house and had the guy in custody they were supposedly looking for.

The people that believe that type of nonsense never change their mind, because they wont perform their due dilligence to actually look at all the evidence presented.

It's even worse than that. You can handhold them right to the evidence that the narrative they were initially presented was false, and they still won't change their mind. That would require them admitting they were wrong, or that they were gullible enough to get fooled. They're so #ing arrogant those kinds of thoughts don't even compute for them. So the new information is simply ignored as if it never existed. The original narrative is all. That's the one that helps them advance their political agenda. The truth is just a distraction.

originally posted by: HalWesten

originally posted by: F4guy

originally posted by: HalWesten
Just waiting for the news alerts showing rioting because the other cops weren't convicted.

Convicted??? The level of ignorance about our justice system is soul crushing. It was a Grand Jury.

Stop being so self-righteous. I didn't bother checking the site, I just made a flippant comment because it's been a #ty week so far. I am not a lawyer but I am well-versed in the process, I just don't care about this one because it's going to end up the same as the others - a group of people are going to bitch and moan that the cops are all killers and they'll want to burn everything down. You see, they have already convicted everyone involved.

How, if you are so "well versed in the process", how id you make so fundamental an error as to suggest that a Grand Jury convicts? Two things can happen when a false predicate is involved. First, a person can rail about a process that not even a real process.Or, they can expound their own theories claiming "exprtise"that is belied in fact by the false predicate.

originally posted by: lincolnparadox
a reply to: Stormdancer777

Um, they served a warrant on the wrong house and killed a lady. What would you have done in that situation?

You think riots are justified?

Shooting police?

Burning and looting?

a reply to: butcherguy

There was a witness, a neighbor who lives above the apartment of Breonna Taylor, and the witness stated he heard the knocks and heard the police announce themselves.


We have got some....unsavory characters even in ATS claiming falsely that she was innocent, and the officers didn't have to shoot. Or that her new boyfriend somehow didn't know Breonna was involved in crimes... Like if you live, even once in a while, with your girlfriend in her apartment you are not going to notice the visits of her criminal former boyfriend bringing and taking packages of drugs that Breonna kept receiving while she still helped her criminal ex-boyfriend...

My take is that both Breonna, and her new boyfriend did hear not just the knocks but the police state they were the police but they played dumb, probably to hide or get rid of evidence. Still her boyfriend shot at the police and hit a police officer in the leg. What was the police supposed to do? Not shoot back?... The police get shot at, and they will shoot back.

There was a video in which the Kentucky Attorney General specifically mentions that the neighbor that lives upstairs from the apartment of Taylor heard the knocks and heard the police state they were the police, contrary to what rioters, and lovers of murderers of cops even in ATS will tell you...

Couldn't find that video, but here is an article.

Kentucky AG denies cops executed ‘no-knock warrant’ in Breonna Taylor case

Kentucky Attorney General asking people not to resort to violence, and to listen to reason and the facts of the case.

a reply to: ElectricUniverse

All the 911 calls disagree with you. All the neighbors heard was bashing and then gunfire. This is why they settled out of court they know they were wrong. Have other court casses as well to deal with such as their neighbor suing.


www.courier-journal.com...

originally posted by: dragonridr
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

All the 911 calls disagree with you. All the neighbors heard was bashing and then gunfire. This is why they settled out of court they know they were wrong. Have other court casses as well to deal with such as their neighbor suing.


www.courier-journal.com...

Eyewitnesses in these cases are notorious for making # up. Look at the Michael Brown case. Numerous witnesses admitted to the grand jury that they had lied about their initial accounts. Anything to throw shade on the cops.

originally posted by: dragonridr
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

All the 911 calls disagree with you. All the neighbors heard was bashing and then gunfire. This is why they settled out of court they know they were wrong. Have other court casses as well to deal with such as their neighbor suing.


www.courier-journal.com...

Wrong again, at least one neighbor did hear the police announce themselves and heard the knocks, and the jury agreed with all the evidence and with this witness... This witness was the closest to Breonna's appartment, and he/she did hear them state they were the police...

'The warrant was not served as a no-knock warrant,' Kentucky AG says
Kentucky Attorney General Daniel Cameron said Louisville Metro officers knocked and announced themselves before breaching the door to Breonna Taylor's apartment.
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'The warrant was not served as a no-knock warrant,' Kentucky AG says

At 3:37 in the video from the above article you can hear the Kentucky Attorney General state the witness that was closest to Breonna's apartment did hear the police announce themselves and knock on the door of Breonna's apartment...

Whether you like it or not, Breonna was a criminal, and it is very unlikely that her new boyfriend, Kenneth, did not notice that Breonna kept receiving packages and visits from her former boyfriend whom is also a criminal.

Breonna chose to stay involved in crimes, and she chose to still help her former boyfriend in his criminal activities. If she had chosen otherwise she would be alive today.

It is not the fault of the officers that Breonna chose this life. You need to understand "personal responsibility" and Breonna was the one who chose her own fate for being involved in criminal activity.

Found the short video in which the Kentucky AG states the facts, and the witness which was closest to Breonna and corroborates that the officers did knock and announced themselves...

originally posted by: F4guy

originally posted by: HalWesten

originally posted by: F4guy

originally posted by: HalWesten
Just waiting for the news alerts showing rioting because the other cops weren't convicted.

Convicted??? The level of ignorance about our justice system is soul crushing. It was a Grand Jury.

Stop being so self-righteous. I didn't bother checking the site, I just made a flippant comment because it's been a #ty week so far. I am not a lawyer but I am well-versed in the process, I just don't care about this one because it's going to end up the same as the others - a group of people are going to bitch and moan that the cops are all killers and they'll want to burn everything down. You see, they have already convicted everyone involved.

How, if you are so "well versed in the process", how id you make so fundamental an error as to suggest that a Grand Jury convicts? Two things can happen when a false predicate is involved. First, a person can rail about a process that not even a real process.Or, they can expound their own theories claiming "exprtise"that is belied in fact by the false predicate.

You just wrote a perfect example of not paying attention to anything I wrote. I said I didn't read the article. I will correct myself right now, just for you:

I made a mistake in my original reply stating only one cop was convicted when I should have said indicted had I read the article.

Project your superior attitude all you want, you're still no more right than you were yesterday aside from my using an incorrect word, one of the very few times I've done that since I joined early last year. Does it make you feel good to talk down to others because you're darned good at it and I'll bet you don't even realize it.

I don't give a sht about this case because it will NEVER be handled properly. None of us here know all of the details, yet there are now ten pages of pure speculation and opinion. That's par for the course here these days, especially on these racially charged topics. I stopped caring about the riots and the shootings (except for the cop killings) because it's all coming from the same damned groups and supporters who are trying their hardest to destroy cops and law & order. I'm sick of it. I would have been all in favor of shoot-to-kill where rioters are concerned if it weren't for the fact that they are being used and encouraged by someone else - The Left. Hell, even Harris said recently that the rioting won't stop after the election and "it shouldn't'". She's as bad as the rest of them.

What have you heard lately about the George Floyd case? Hm? That's right, after all their soapbox speeches, threats, violence and hate-filled-actions, NOTHING has been said for weeks.

a reply to: ElectricUniverse

I keep trying to tell you the police lied on the warrant. They claimed they verified illegal packages with the postal inspectors. His office said that was a lie and their investigation showed she did not receive any packages during their investigation.

www.wdrb.com/in-depth/louisville-postal-inspector-no-packages-of-interest-at-slain-emt-breonna-taylor-s-home/article_f25bbc06-96e4-11ea-9371-97b3 41bd2866.html


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The whole warrant was lies yeah she made a mistake with a bad boyfriend but by the time the police kill her that relationship was over. So I guess your argument is people cant make mistakes dating the wrong person? The reason Louisville settled for 12 million is that they realized the police screwed up big time. If they had bothered to investigate they would not have been able to attain the warrant.

a reply to: dragonridr

Link is broken.

originally posted by: Muninn
a reply to: dragonridr

Link is broken.

Fixed and here is the next-door neighbor who claimed she didn't hear the police either and she was the one who had bullets flying through her apartment.

www.wdrb.com/news/family-of-louisville-emt-killed-during-lmpd-raid-files-wrongful-death-lawsuit-against-officers/article_8caf7c9c-93b7-11ea-8253-5fbf4 d80f0e7.html

originally posted by: dragonridr
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

I keep trying to tell you the police lied on the warrant. They claimed they verified illegal packages with the postal inspectors. His office said that was a lie and their investigation showed she did not receive any packages during their investigation.

www.wdrb.com/in-depth/louisville-postal-inspector-no-packages-of-interest-at-slain-emt-breonna-taylor-s-home/article_f25bbc06-96e4-11ea-9371-97b3 41bd2866.html


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The whole warrant was lies yeah she made a mistake with a bad boyfriend but by the time the police kill her that relationship was over. So I guess your argument is people cant make mistakes dating the wrong person? The reason Louisville settled for 12 million is that they realized the police screwed up big time. If they had bothered to investigate they would not have been able to attain the warrant.

Ah, the officers lied and not the criminals?... How convenient...

You still ignore that the warrant was a "knock warrant", despite your lies that it wasn't and that of the left-wing media. Which is why the postal inspector wasn't aware of the police making a case against Breonna...

From your own article...

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LOUISVILLE, Ky. (WDRB) – A U.S. postal inspector in Louisville said Metro police did not use his office to verify that a drug suspect was receiving packages at Breonna Taylor's apartment, one of the factors listed in officers' request for a "no-knock" warrant for her home.
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www.wdrb.com... 7b341bd2866.html

IT WAS A KNOCK WARRANT... The officers did knock and announced they were the police. The jury agreed with the evidence, and with the witness closest to Breonna and they gave a verdict of not guilty except to the counts of "wanton endangerment" for the officer that shot 10 times and supposedly put in danger people in other apartments. The jury already decided and the judge himself didn't object to the verdict.

Now go riot if you want, but stop lying. Thank you.

a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Yeah thats why they changed the law banning no-knock warrants in the city. Makes sense police didn't do it city pays millions and changes law. Did that sound sane in your head when you said it?

www.kare11.com/article/news/local/breaking-the-news/the-state-of-the-no-knock-warrant-after-breonna-taylors-case/89-993a312e-f4e7-47e 9-bd4a-86b541e02dad

originally posted by: butcherguy
I am going to go out on a limb and predict that there will be riots.

One of the signs I already saw said he was only charged for Missed Shots.

originally posted by: CryHavoc

originally posted by: butcherguy
I am going to go out on a limb and predict that there will be riots.

One of the signs I already saw said he was only charged for Missed Shots.

Pretty much! he is in trouble for indiscriminate fire that entered a neighbouring apt.

Was the gun breyonna taylor boyfriend shot a legal firearm?

My spell check goes crazy when i try and spell names from the African American community

Do they just make up the spelling and names on a whim?

a reply to: Bloodworth

Yep. And if I remember correctly he also had his CCW.