Why I am against ‘free’ college

First of all college is free, if you are smart enough and work hard enough. If your college wasn’t free and you don’t understand why, you failed the first reason why it’s free.

If one wants to make the arguement the whole college experience is priceless...ok

If you are paying for the most expensive streaming survive you ever gong to have, that’s not an experience. For the most part, If you are Streaming a named school (read expensive) instead of taking a community college (Read cheap). Then again, you failed rule 1 again.

a reply to: SocratesJohnson

Who wants to pay for other people's kids to waste 10's of thousands on overpriced classes for a useless degree in uselessness?


The second you subsidize college even more than it is the prices will triple or quadruple.


Waste of time and other people's money.


If we wanted to subsidize doctors, surgeons, medical specialist, true engineers, and positions we desperately need in the country, maybe. Paying for uselessness is just plain stupid.

Let the idiots get a useless degree in psychology, marketing, or gender studies with their own hundred thousand dollars that they will never be able to pay back. It would be cheaper to hand them a check and tell them to go to college or buy a car.... see how many buy a car

they have quite a scam going
take their money; give out A's

Maybe if it was free, instructors might see their way back to actually teaching and failing students that fail to master the course material.
Contrary to popular belief, we are NOT all created equal; Some people are smarter then others. Get over yourself.

Only in America free higher education is frowned upon for a first world country.

And look at our society 😘😘🇺🇸💕

Rome never looked better.

a reply to: infolurker

see how many buy a car

I have a bit of a passion on that subject.
I was told when I was 16, You HAVE to....the first thing I did was not listen.
To this very day, I am slim and trim and keep moving without a car.

I used to hear girls say " I won't date anyone who doesn't have a car" and then I would think....wait, YOU don't own a car.
I'll keep biking it....and yes that is my real bike.

originally posted by: odzeandennz
Only in America free higher education is frowned upon for a first world country.

And look at our society 😘😘🇺🇸💕

Rome never looked better.

If what passes as a "higher education" in America now was actually useful then you may have a point.

Taxpayer money being spent on liberal indoctrination centers passing out worthless degrees is another thing entirely.

An internet connection and time is a much cheaper (and better) option now.

Nice avatar, btw.

Democrats waving the white flag has always been a good thing for America, historically.

I hope to see it again in a few months.

originally posted by: odzeandennz
Only in America free higher education is frowned upon for a first world country.

And look at our society 😘😘🇺🇸💕

Rome never looked better.

Because it isn't free.

originally posted by: odzeandennz
Only in America free higher education is frowned upon for a first world country.

And look at our society 😘😘🇺🇸💕

Rome never looked better.

When 90% of their "degree programs" are completely useless and won't get you a job, why waste the time and effort? Let their parents pay for useless classes. Let some jackhead pay for his own useless degree in the arts.

a reply to: SocratesJohnson

I think people look at the whole free college thing all wrong.

We already have free school for our children.
Twelve whole years of free education...

And what do they learn in those twelve years?
They learn that their free education isn’t enough and they will have to pay for four more years of education in order to get a job.

a reply to: infolurker

The arts is one of those things where people just pay lots of money for nothing....and they come out and don't do anything that applies to what they spent a lot of their parents money on.

I love art, I just don't like the artists and their interpretation of life sometimes....unless they pay for it themselves.

originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: SocratesJohnson

I think people look at the whole free college thing all wrong.

We already have free school for our children.
Twelve whole years of free education...

And what do they learn in those twelve years?
They learn that their free education isn’t enough and they will have to pay for four more years of education in order to get a job.

See, and that is the big lie. Only a few fields require that piece of paper that actually pay well. The other 90% of degrees are useless unless you are going to teach and there are only so many teachers.

With a fraction of that money and time, someone could get their CCIE and start at over 100K out the door.

A fraction of the money and time and you can become a project manager and get your PMP, CBAP, Scrum Master, ITIL, and Lean Six Sigma Black Belt. Get paid - Money, money, money.

a reply to: infolurker

Our local high schools always report the numbers of grads heading on to college.
The higher the better.

We dont need no stinking paper, we're free man!

originally posted by: DrumsRfun
a reply to: infolurker

see how many buy a car

I have a bit of a passion on that subject.
I was told when I was 16, You HAVE to....the first thing I did was not listen.
To this very day, I am slim and trim and keep moving without a car.

I used to hear girls say " I won't date anyone who doesn't have a car" and then I would think....wait, YOU don't own a car.
I'll keep biking it....and yes that is my real bike.

Looks like you live in Japan there.

I'm also a cyclist.
Can't figure out how to post my bicycle with this phone but I have a cross bike a giant r3 escape bike.
It's an okay bike but for 500 bucks it's way too expensive for that price but I needed a good bike for once in my life and then I couldn't afford $1,000 bike so I went with the Giant bike which is a brand name worldwide.

a reply to: infolurker

There is a place for people whose primary motivator is a gauranteed paycheck: trade school.

College is supposed to primarily be a place to improve one's mind by following one's own intellectual curiosity, developing habits of mind along the way that will carry one through adulthood in whatever specific occupation they hold.

Who are you to decide what is useless?

Would you turn all colleges and universities into mere trade schools?

Don't worry guys, there won't be any universities in the future at all.

They will download what you need to believe into your head via a chip.

So you don't need to worry about anything my fellow zombies. All the thinking will be done for you.

School is unnecessary in that future.

originally posted by: projectvxn

originally posted by: odzeandennz
Only in America free higher education is frowned upon for a first world country.

And look at our society 😘😘🇺🇸💕

Rome never looked better.

Because it isn't free.

Everything is technically free.
We just always make huge "required donations".

I never thought my candyass liberal arts degree would be worth much in the job market. I was wrong!!

As far as I'm concerned, every cent I paid to get a degree was money well spent. Like they say, It's not what you know, it's Who you know.

Also some people shouldn't seek a degree or a credential from a trade school. They should just stay home with mommie and daddy and watch Netflix!!

I was told that I was going to go to college. I did not have much of a choice in the matter. I was young and not knowing how to tell my family no I went. Not only was my aunt documented ADHD causing major hiccups for me, I became exceptionally recluse and depressed. The only control I had over my life with what I put in my mouth. My father brought me closer to home to a school that was within an hour of his house. They're the students we're always high or drunk in the dorm. Occasionally there would be a homeless person sleeping in the dorm stairwell. Long story short I met my future husband at the time and failed out of college
Now my grandfather had set aside the money for me to go to school and I clearly was not ready. Fast forward five years and two kids later, I was ready to finish getting my degree in General Studies. I had no real direction before. I was Loosely considering psychology. So now I have this associates degree that means nothing. I finally took classes to become an early childhood educator.
I am not one of the raging left political ideologies. I am the minority as far as that is concerned where I work.
I've taken how many credits. Kind of ridiculous how redundant it all is. Now that I've solidified a short-term goal being a preschool teacher, I am looking to further my education.
Mind you at this point I'm a single mother with two kids. I've paid my own education since I started back to school.
Anything that is worthwhile you're going to have to work for. I'm picking up an extra job next month and I will create my own funds to continue what I perceive to be as a worthwhile Endeavor for my life.

Go to college or get good pay. That's not the case. Go to college and get an education for what it is you want to do in life. That doesn't mean you're going to get paid what you think you want to be paid for the education level what you have. It's about your desire to create your future.

If you want to you can take that trade school and increase your education after. Many people go from LVN which is a trade to BSN which is a degree.

originally posted by: DictionaryOfExcuses
a reply to: infolurker

There is a place for people whose primary motivator is a gauranteed paycheck: trade school.

College is supposed to primarily be a place to improve one's mind by following one's own intellectual curiosity, developing habits of mind along the way that will carry one through adulthood in whatever specific occupation they hold.

Who are you to decide what is useless?

Would you turn all colleges and universities into mere trade schools?