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What ufology needs is a real analysis of the fact that for 74 years we’ve had numerous documented ufo events similar to anything this new mob descendent from TTSA has produced as a ufo experience. It boils to this: YOU HAVE NOTHING NEW, JOKERS!
If you look at what happened prior to the formation of TTSA there was a backstory being seeded. For at least a decade, maybe longer? Then in Dec 2017 a bunch of new and mainly ignorant social media influencers/podcasters, pushing the same narrative, seemingly arrived almost out of nowhere. A selected number of 'journalists' pushed a similar narrative by asking softball questions and providing lots of hearsay. But very little in the way of facts. Sprinkled on top with a few ex-military pilots telling tales about seeing strange things. Then the politicians arrived with their "can't rule out the aliens" speeches.
Carrion: … given the timing of Bigelow's startup activity and engagement with MUFON. Bigelow disclosed the sponsor to Schuessler but not the rest of the MUFON Board....
Q: At the January 2009 Las Vegas meeting (to set up the SIP field investigations contract) with Robert Bigelow and his BAASS team, I believe you'd already interacted with Colm Kelleher, but when did you first know that Hal Puthoff and Jacques Vallee were involved?
Carrion: The first I knew of Puthoff and Vallée’s involvements was when they showed up at the January meeting.
Q: What were their roles in this meeting, and what did they say about their work for Bigelow?
Carrion: I was never told exactly what their roles were. Neither Puthoff nor Vallee volunteered any information to me about what exactly they were doing on the project...
You know reading your link’s analysis regarding AAWSAP versus ATTIP reminds me of something you’ve said before about Nick Pope, that he wasn’t all that he was cracked up to be, but just a part-time ufo info gatherer for the UK mod. I think Elizondo was the same thing. Though, in his case, they wanted to start this operation with TTSA so they threw him in the mix.
I’ve said before my opinion is that this whole TTSA, ATTIP AAWSAP deal was to get Bigelow some bucks but I have to admit the dates on that idea may be problematic.
I forgot to mention, though the AAWSAP deal was way after Bigelows NIDS research, and although I can't prove anything, some of that research I believe may have been doctored to add to the unknown and unseen AAWSAP results.
originally posted by: mirageman
Thanks for the link. There's some information there I wasn't aware of.
Welp, on Thanksgiving Day, just two days after the Defense Department tried boosting its immune system with AOIMSG, a familiar and exhausted diatribe popped up on Twitter. Titled “The UFO Information Operation,” an anonymous writer accused two key whistleblowers, without whom our revitalized UFO conversation would still be stuck in 1969, of being disinformation agents.
For the targets of this polemic, the broadside was intensely derivative. “Pure drivel,” replied Elizondo
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originally posted by: Jukiodone
a reply to: karl 12
From a commercial perspective - the implied due diligence undertaken by the US army to progress a CRADA based on TTSA's possession of materials with inertial mass reduction properties is absolutely the most valuable thing about TTSA.
originally posted by: Jukiodone
a reply to: RobertSheaffer
The confusion about origins is intentional....might be Arts parts, might be from a crashed disk at Roswell, might be Lou's field find- might be recovered from the turn ups of Steve Justices work trousers.....who knows?