Breaking BAASS, Assessing AATIP and Doubting Thomas ‘DeLonge’

When Paolo asks to hug Greer and they start weeping
Beautiful!

a reply to: zazzafrazz

I took the plunge and watched it yesterday.

That was a winner with Paola. I almost cried with laughter.

The blind leading the blind .

a reply to: zazzafrazz

I've seen enough of this charlatan to give his latest offering a pass.

I did a critical analysis of his Unacknowledged here : Steven Greer - ‘Unacknowledged’ ,Untangled and Unbelievable!.

My conclusion was

...Greer has a tendency to fabricate, or at least exaggerate, on the one hand and be economic with the truth on the other. He uses some dubious people as talking heads to support his arguments and some of the documents he reads from have questionable provenance. Not everything he says is bunk. But he has manipulated an awful lot of it and processed it to fit his agenda....

Sadly Greer started off like many others with some serious and solid work. But 20 or so years down the line he's become just another 'cult' leader exploiting and fleecing his flock of gullible, credulous followers. Unfortunately, American ufology is riddled with personalities who have no interest in the truth but prefer to perpetuate myths.

Keep pushing for a disclosure that can never come. That way you can make money forever.

a reply to: mirageman

Shame on you MM you missed the hugging and crying part .

I was reminded of old Linda when she went into a crying fit. Something to do with Jesus if my memory serves me well .

I understand your position though MM. Greer is , well a Charlatan......

It appears as John Greenwald of the BlackVault has requested an MDR (Mandatory Declassification Review) on the Classified UAPTF report that was presented to Congress...

Quote:

My MDR case under 32 CFR § 1704 (not under 5 U.S.C. § 552 FOIA) is progressing quicker than I thought thus far.

The document is already being reviewed, and other government agencies are being coordinated with.

As of early this morning, I may actually be hopeful SOMETHING will be released from it within 6 weeks -- not years.
I will continue to update, but please know, things can absolutely change in this process. I will give ONLY the best estimates and information I am given to update you all, but these processes can be delayed or changed for whatever reason.

If so, don't hold it against me!

Source - Reddit

Zondo is doing a lot of thinking in this one.

Hmmm. Some of the comments under the video are interesting too.

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Here's Kean's version of the story. Quite different.

Mr. Zondo meeting with Kean the very same day he resigned (supposedly because of frustation but more likely join the TTSA techno-scam). Also she was shown the videos at that meeting.

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They are a fun bunch are they not?

Leslie Kean in this and an emotional Kevin Day.

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And things just took an interesting turn after recent FOIA work from the Black Vault.

UAP Task Force Initiated Contact with NASA To Brief Them on UFOs; But They Won’t Say Why

...the UAPTF, they initiated contact with NASA and requested that they brief them on UAPs in a secure setting.
But the exact reason WHY, remains unknown.....

On September 13, 2020, then Acting Associate Administrator for the Office of International and Interagency Relations, Mike Gold,....talks about a briefing he would be attending “at the request of the UAPTF.”...

Prior to working with NASA, Gold worked for Bigelow Aerospace... from February of 2003 through April of 2016. This would put him within Bigelow Aerospace as the Director of D.C. Operations & Business Growth, when they were operating...allegedly investigating paranormal events and UFO sightings for the Defense Intelligence Agency.

The reach of the Vegas UFO mafia leaves another fingerprint. Bigelow has acquired UFO and abduction data from MUFON, FUFOR, CUFOS and many other researchers and then squirrels it away. He may answer to someone but it's not the public. His tactics are always the same.




Yet, all the focus of the sub-genius social media twits is on the US Government to come clean in support for the man with the goatee who can't ever say anything interesting is a fact.

Why don't they turn the heat up on the real secret keepers like intelligence asset, Big Bob, and his chums across the world of pseudo-science, journalism and quantum jujuitsu?

Where are those warehouses Bob Built, where did the 'magic materials' collected go? Why hasn't the Hoffster produced any results after seeing $30k come his way for analysing meta-materials?

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Thanks for the Greenwald quote, Pigsy...

You have a PM

a reply to: 1ofthe9

Wow, you left poor 'ultimafule' hanging on that Brother Blue thread

Where've you been since February? You have a PM

a reply to: mirageman

I'm at the point, so we never have to hear from them again, that I almost hope the treasurers hand over billions to their SkyFart company. And with that, all the global DATA control Melon and his yapping dog, Lue have been salivating over for years......Data control has been his long game.
Bravo on making it happen! No matter how ludicrous everything he said and presented has been. Beauty of being in charge of a spy agency, I guess he knew how the cogs in the wheel work in government, to get your funding and contracts. It also helps you probably have a bunch of men only pool party photos of catholic married conservative politician from 1990 that might just fall in to public domain, or not-should there be support for a UAP congressional hearing and subsequent outsourcing of data control to outside contractors that happen to be owned by a gazillionaire banker/former spy chief....

As for John, I always thought he gave them too much airtime, allowing them to keep driveling their disinfo. That leveled up to the BV becoming unreadable or watchable when Jon and Zonko, after the 60 minutes advertorial for congressional hearing on purse apportioning without oversight for threats to national security, they appeared together like tweedle-dum and twedle-dee on the Meghan Kelly show.

a reply to: zazzafrazz

So sponsoring Mr Bigs for years to clean out MUFON's database wasn't enough? After crashing TTSA they now have no liability to its investors. They now are after government contractor money. All because America is paranoid and still fears there are reds under the bed and little green men above its head. The US spends more on its military than the rest of the developed world put together. It's a huge money pot for those who know how to make easy money with little oversight.

Let's face it Zondo could blab all he wants about what he knows about UFOs from his government service. He won't go to jail. Bob Lazar is a prime example. As all his followers keep telling us. Putting him in jail would be admitting he was telling the truth about working on alien spacecraft!!!!

So BF Lue can stop hiding behind his NDA. No one goes to jail for telling UFO stories. Richard Doty is a free man too!

Unless of course lies have been told

originally posted by: mirageman

Let's face it Zondo could blab all he wants about what he knows about UFOs from his government service. He won't go to jail. Bob Lazar is a prime example. As all his followers keep telling us. Putting him in jail would be admitting he was telling the truth about working on alien spacecraft!!!!

So BF Lue can stop hiding behind his NDA. No one goes to jail for telling UFO stories. Richard Doty is a free man too!

Unless of course lies have been told

I think and hope zondo is just waiting for the right moment ...

Spooks, Lies & Video Conference

$249 to watch a bunch of nat sec assets tell lies!!!

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It's like a nightmare on Elm street, good heavens!!!

Where is the link MM. I must of missed this pending delight?

Mark Sims is like something out of cult in passing.


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I don't want to promote these grifters any further.

All it takes is for 200 sub-geniuses with more money than sense to subscribe to this sham, and these con artists have made nearly $50k between them.

a reply to: mirageman

I actually thought it was one of your comic posts as can't believe what am seeing. I did note that Linda is advertising stuff with a another cat sprawled across her advert. Not the two fluffy ones. Perhaps using cats to lure in the gullible helps bring in more $$$. It's sickening all of this MM, shame on them all.

Brian Dunning wrote a 2-part history of the "UFO Rogues Gallery" going all the way back to the Stargate project, the group some people here refer to as the "UFO mafia", and that Mick West on metabunk.org refers to as the "Invisible College" (I think West tries to be more polite to his adversaries than most skeptics).

I suspect most people here will already know most of what Dunning discusses but I actually picked up one or two things I didn't already know by reading his articles.

The UFO Rogues Gallery Takes Over America - Part 1

An unlikely group of paranormalists has persuaded the American public that the government takes UFOs seriously.

The UFO Rogues Gallery Takes Over America - Part 2

One thing Dunning mentions is how much is left out of the infamous New York Times articles about the other paranormal beliefs of the "UFO Rogue Gallery" like poltergeists and such, which might have made the NYT articles more difficult to sell to the public had they exposed how far out there some of these folks were/are.

Similarly, this is West's thread on the "Invisible College", a term coined by Jacques Vallee. It begins with an interview with Jason Colavito and they discuss a similar look at the history of these folks also going back as far as the Stargate project:

UAPs, Bigelow, and the "Invisible College"

Lastly, Tom DeLonge claims he has 10 feature films in the works:
Tom DeLonge Reveals He 'Has 10 Feature Films In The Works'
If they are as full of lies and half-truths as his television series, I doubt I want to watch them, but I expect they probably will be, if he completes them. I am not sure what he's going to cover that he didn't already cover in his TV shows.