Breaking BAASS, Assessing AATIP and Doubting Thomas ‘DeLonge’

a reply to: 1ofthe9

Thanks kindly.

Kev

Imo ... the earth existed well enough alone before mankind invented things that would focus transmit and or receive Radiofrequency (RF) radiation, which includes radio waves and microwaves energy directly to us, to our brains, organs, nervous systems. I shudder every time a new thing comes along to tap into part of the spectrum we should not endeavor to make functional... 5G comes to mind. I once worked for the cellphone industry and did not trust the tests that were said to say that the cellphones were safe near your head. I understand that most work on the low-energy end of the electromagnetic spectrum. I happen to believe it’s cumulative for damage to be done over time. To this day, I use a wired earpiece or use the speakerphone function of my cell away from my head.

In hindsight, when I think of the early tinhatters, I no longer think of them as being nuts. I think that perhaps there is a reason to shield your brain now with all the gadgets we are using inviting the rf waves into us as if it was nothing to worry about. It’s big business now and not likely to go away. Believe it or not for some RF Engineers ... RF is truly magic.

a reply to: Ophiuchus1

I'm not a 'tin hatter' nor a Luddite.

However, now that we know there's QM (Quantum Mechanical processing)
involved with our sense of sense of smell, involved with how Enzymes
operate in our cells, and for some people probably a magnetic sense
like some birds.. QM at room temperature is quite extraordinary
enough.. we don't need all this RF soup disrupting it.. there may be
much more in us that uses QM processes and they might be increasingly
messed up by it.

I don't know. But it's worth considering.

Now mind you, QM isn't 'magic' and shouldn't be used to justify
"quantum mysticism", but QM is a form of signaling so to speak..
perhaps deeply associated with our awareness as living beings..

I can't dismiss nervousness about RF entirely.

There's plenty of articles at the NIH (national institute of health)
showing that RF/EMF does cause effects in some cases, and not
just at high levels.

Perhaps we can live without our 'bond with nature' if you want to
view it that way.. but we've destroyed much of the natural
world.. perhaps if we still had that 'bond' we'd be less prone
to be such total asshats to the planet.

Kev

a reply to: OutTheBox

Your questions deserve their own metaphysics or A&E thread maybe

a reply to: Ophiuchus1

Can't make any sense of this thread it's all over the place?

So what's the latest spin re Tom and Lue bla bla.

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

You have totally lost me Kevin. Does any of this fit Tom Delonge and AATIP??

originally posted by: Baablacksheep
a reply to: Ophiuchus1

Can't make any sense of this thread it's all over the place?

So what's the latest spin re Tom and Lue bla bla.

You might have missed the Reality TV Soap Opera coming out of Smurfland recently.
Tom and Lue and all the crew have been protesting against a total muppet...



Pity they got the spelling wrong on their sign though.

a reply to: mirageman

Lol. I see that one smurf even has a goatee!

Lue is very good with his talk on Twitter so I see.

I wonder if the pledge he made to his followers is fact or fiction?

originally posted by: Baablacksheep
a reply to: mirageman

Lol. I see that one smurf even has a goatee!

Yes that was Chief Agitator "Blue Ellie Zondo" protessting against Muppet Fraud in Smurfland. Apparently President Tramp there, said there's lots of fraudulent votes there. And as we know "...when the President says it then that's illegal."

Lue is very good with his talk on Twitter so I see.

I wonder if the pledge he made to his followers is fact or fiction?

Very good at talking what though?

Three years later what has he achieved that can actually be proven?

a reply to: zazzafrazz

Don't mind me, I just write the thoughts that pop into my mind.. I don't believe them but I entertain them. Cheers.

originally posted by: Baablacksheep
a reply to: Ophiuchus1

Can't make any sense of this thread it's all over the place?

So what's the latest spin re Tom and Lue bla bla.

Well....for some like moi.... there’s not enough fuel to help feed the fires at the moment. MM did a ....where we are today..summary a couple posts back, in part to help avoid thread drift. Since there’s no new third season of Unidentified yet ... new meaty dish to expound upon just is not there. TDL is still trying to build his Brand and he’s a Mystic Mason. Since 2018, Zondo went from a house 5 blocks away from the beach, to a rural 8+ acre spread in hills east, with enough land to build a ufo landing pad. Somebody’s making good dinero...

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

Now mind you, QM isn't 'magic' and shouldn't be used to justify
"quantum mysticism", but QM is a form of signaling so to speak..

I'm still mystified by the Pais_ian remarks from Juki, on why room temperature was noteworthy in the first place. This is highly intriguing stuff regarding our other myth of disclosure from the top.

Don't take me wrong here, you certainly bring up some interesting points. I just felt like throwing up coffins and nails for context.

a reply to: mirageman

Very good at talking what though?

I guess doing this

a reply to: Ophiuchus1

TDL is still trying to build his Brand and he’s a Mystic Mason.

Is the mystic mason going to produce another book in time for Xmas I wonder, am lost with all the books that have been created.

originally posted by: mirageman
Very good at talking what though?

Three years later what has he achieved that can actually be proven?

You heard Lue talk about the "five observables" on "Unidentified"?

Anti-Gravity
Instantaneous Acceleration
Hypersonic Velocity above 3700 mph
Low Observability
Trans-medium travel

One of the "observables" is, ironically, "Low Observability", that may be the one thing proven though not in the way he intended. I think competent analyses have shown the other claims of observables are due to incompetent analyses, like the overhyped alleged "sudden acceleration" at the end of the FLIR video which allegations make David Fravor, Chad Underwood, Lue and the TTSA gang all look incompetent for not being able to calculate that the apparent acceleration at the end of the video is an illusion.

So there's pretty "low observability" for all the fanstastic claims they make, which the actual evidence clearly contradicts if the analysis is performed competently.

originally posted by: Baablacksheep
a reply to: Ophiuchus1

Can't make any sense of this thread it's all over the place?

I hear that, MM tries to keep it on topic but some of his contributors tend to wander off. I'm a bit guilty too, though I didn't start it but these following topics are interesting and I feel the need to comment though they really belong in other threads.

originally posted by: Ophiuchus1
I happen to believe it’s cumulative for damage to be done over time.

It's a valid topic, but I have no idea why you're posting it in this thread since it seems off-topic here and there are other threads discussing it where it's on topic.

I've never seen any convincing evidence of that for low intensity non-ionizing radiation of 4G and 5G. There's some evidence of that for ionizing radiation and high intensity non-ionizing radiation.

To this day, I use a wired earpiece or use the speakerphone function of my cell away from my head.

Nothing wrong with that, I've done the same. The biggest problem is that the smartphone instructions tell people not to press the phone against the head, but leave a small space, which varies by phone/maker but it's some fraction of a centimeter, depending on which phone. Of course very few people do that, including me. They really should put a standoff over the earpiece to enforce that, a concave shape like the old wired handsets had would do it, but it doesn't happen because a safety feature like that would interfere with sleek lines which make the phone look "cool".

originally posted by: KellyPrettyBear
a reply to: Ophiuchus1

I'm not a 'tin hatter' nor a Luddite.

However, now that we know there's QM (Quantum Mechanical processing)
involved with our sense of sense of smell,

Again an interesting topic but I don't see how it fits this thread. I think you're getting ahead of yourself there by saying we know that. Seems like the jury is still out on that one.

What we really need is direct evidence of how it actually works as Richard Axel noted:
Quantum smell

Columbia University's Richard Axel, whose work on mapping the genes and receptors of our sense of smell garnered the 2004 Nobel prize for physiology, said the kinds of experiments revealed this week would not resolve the debate - only a microscopic look at the receptors in the nose would finally show what is at work.

"Until somebody really sits down and seriously addresses the mechanism and not inferences from the mechanism... it doesn't seem a useful endeavour to use behavioural responses as an argument," he told BBC News.

"Don't get me wrong, I'm not writing off this theory, but I need data and it hasn't been presented."

So he's not writing off the theory and seems open to it, but he and others feel better evidence is needed, and until we have that better evidence I don't think we can say "we know there's QM involved with our sense of sense of smell". It could eventually be proven, or not.

a reply to: Arbitrageur

Well Arby, there's the whole new field of Quantum
Biology.. but yes.. of course.. we are hardly at
6 sigma.

I completely concur on your points about Lue's
complete delusion about relative motion and
FLIR.

And yes, I concur about my own malfeasance
in this thread. My problems I guess, are that
I innately refuse to observe boundaries, liking
to smash them. That does make me rude.
Also, my best friends on ATS are ones that
don't necessarily agree with me. If I start
a tread, they won't join it.

But yes, I'll stop crapping up this thread.
I'll restrain myself not to comment unless
it's more focused on TTSA.

I've got some Gnostics to talk to in another
thread, maybe.. though they only drop in
to aim me in a new direction then depart
for 6 months or a year.. it's not very
satisfying.

There are some recent updates elsewhere...

One is from Keith B's Blog : Chris Mellon and Those Videos

It covers old ground discussed on page 6 of this thread. .

Regarding Zondo and Mellon hanging around in car parks then receiving dodgy burned CDs from shady characters. Which probably reminds people of the early 2000s. Before i-pods. You could often get the latest CD release like that.. If you were lucky someone would scribble the title on the front of your CD-R with a black marker pen too!!



Mellon was a lucky man. Even if whoever wrote it couldn't spell properly.

Which also reminds me of the early 2000s when someone tried to sell me a CD they'd burned by the Red Hot Child Peepers.....I wasn't falling for that one. They were really one of those Black Eyed Paedophiles

The other one is a column called : Tell him what he wants to hear....

Covering interviews with former employees of Bigelow at Skinwalker Ranch....It doesn't paint Bigelow in a good light at all.

Some snippets...

....The Security Officer spent some time at the property. ...

“I’ve spent a total of 4 weeks there. I don't believe anything happened at the Ranch.... I never witnessed anything crazy. There's nothing happening out there that cannot be logically rationally explained. “I talked to some of other security officers and they said that stories were embellished to please Mr Bigelow“ he explained. “Mr. Bigelow did not like to be told that there was nothing to it. "

I remember one specific thing about the orbs that you can photograph. I was standing out in the middle of a field at night taking a picture with a digital camera and then a high-speed 35 mm standard camera, trying to show the fact that orbs only show up on digital. The truth is that it was simply dust. They did not want me to send that along with my report. The bottom line was just : “Tell him what he wants to hear.“

....everything, had a logical rational reasonable explanation that Mr Bigelow just didn't want to hear about...

One day in June of 2010 the suits from the Defense Intelligence Agency showed up for 15 minutes and left. The next day we were all laid off.“

“You can summarize BAASS with one word. Boondoggle.“

“We had a few people who tried to make stuff up in order to please Mr Bigelow. Same with NIDS

A Supervisor at Bigelow Aerospace texted me in 2015 and told me to get rid of the DNA stuff [from an encounter with a strange wolf] that we all knew wasn’t going anywhere, he told me destroy the bags.... This shows how much Colm [Kelleher] really cared about all this...“

TLDR : Bigelow is a foolish man who kept throwing money away. Desperately wanting to believe in supernatural things he refused to accept his beliefs were totally unfounded. He was really getting fleeced by the bunch of spooks who surrounded him and fed him dubious stories to keep him happy.

Skinwalker Ranch was no more mysterious than any other place in the world.

a reply to: Ophiuchus1

You're not allowed to link to articles from that guy. He's part of TTSA's propaganda team. He's even admitted he has been used by TTSA on a radio show.