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Breaking BAASS, Assessing AATIP and Doubting Thomas ‘DeLonge’

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posted on Oct, 30 2020 @ 10:47 AM
a reply to: deanbaker

I've been studying this topic for decades -my 'plunge' happened long ago! I've dried off, re-dessicated and re-plunged many times. I feel like the 'ancient doctrines' angle is why Peter Levenda's smart egg was enfolded into the original TTSA omelette. The Levenda-fueled approach was probably planned well before the recent swift embrace of hardline evangelical influence at the highest levels of US decision making. My guess is that some well-placed movers and shakers really didn't like this scholarly, edgy, Levenda/Simon fellow being part of the official TTSA snack mix, his contributions were just way too salty. His porridge is way too hot! But all the gun cam porridge is so, so cold. And Bigelow won't let anyone see his baseball card collection. So sad. It will be interesting to see if Levenda's contributions and the 'ancient doctrines' material become amplified if/when a more progressive political culture re-emerges in the US. Magic 8 ball says: Ask Again Later.

posted on Oct, 30 2020 @ 11:28 AM
John Whiteside Parsons was an American rocket engineer, chemist, and Thelemite occultist. Associated with the California Institute of Technology, Parsons was one of the principal founders of both the Jet Propulsion Laboratory and the Aerojet Engineering Corporation..

I suspect Jack Parsons new of the association between the Vril, Thule and EBE’s communicating.

Forget for a moment, the context of Devils, Demons, Evil Spirits, Angels, God(s), Religion, Cults and the Occult’s.

Now think of communicating with inter and multi-dimensional beings that can appear or are invisible, until the need to materialize within our dimension. It is said that all dimensions are separated by different frequencies, amplitude, and atomic vibrations.

What are forms of communication as we know it? Vocal cords speaking words that are Invisible to the eye, electromechanical constructs that tap in and use Invisible to the eye RF waves all around us, and a heightened sense (extra sensory) of mental thought generation and output of the brain that’s Invisible to the eye......Written, printed, typed, keyboard inputted words are Visible words.

Invisible words have frequencies, amplitude, and atomic vibrations. It’s these words that can communicate into other dimensions.

Now, bring back those things in the context above, I told you to forget. All of those by and large require the generation of Invisible words vocally by chants, prayers, incantations, etc.. and mentally by meditation, contemplation, prayers as to communicate or attempt to communicate with beings in our and other dimensions.

All Invisible words, no matter what language (and dialects), must follow the universal law to be precise and grouped together correctly, whether electro-mechanically, vocally, or mentally...for it to be understood by the beings of dimensions we cannot see. Otherwise, what is received is incoherent gibberish.

Hence throughout the ages even now....vocal chants, prayers, incantations, etc.. and mental meditation, contemplation, prayers etc, do not get replied.
Those that do get replied is because the communication was correct in frequencies, amplitudes, atomic vibrations and order.

It could get disastrous if the frequencies, amplitudes and atomic vibrations of the Invisible words are incorrectly generated and in the wrong order causing destructible resonance.

Jack Parsons, in his attempt to gain further knowledge through the Occult like the Vril and Thule, most likely failed because he didn’t understand the correct way of how to communicate with beings in our or other dimensions. Either he and or his group misread the incantations or spells and incorrectly generated vocally and or mentally, Invisible words at the wrong frequencies, amplitudes and atomic vibrations and or in the wrong order and contributed to his demise.

In any type of communication precision is 🔑 .

Think like this, if you don’t tune into the right radio station, then you don’t get what you want to hear from the Invisible words entering your radio via the tuned crystal inside. If you mumble your words, you are unintelligible. You can hum (vibrate your vocal cords) prayers like monks in Tibet, but if it’s not at the right frequencies, amplitudes and atomic vibrations, it will happen for a lifetime without the enlightenment.

I don’t yet or maybe never will attain the correct key 🔑 tuned to my being to communicate with beings invisible to me now in this dimension or other dimensions. I pray daily in my faith in the hopes I get a reply someday. It appears I don’t have the knowledge of what are the correct frequencies, amplitudes, atomic vibrations and correct order of Invisible words. Perhaps the prayers I was taught are remnants of what they used to be, perhaps from ancient times, when prayers where answered and revealed in the visible spectrum of our eyesight.

Perhaps the Occult method of communicating with other beings is very much continued by those in today’s aerospace industry. Perhaps the correct frequencies, amplitudes and atomic vibrations are now (or have been since the end of WWII) in a physical electro-mechanical construct built with the assistance of beings from this or other dimensions.

Air vehicles, objects, craft... that are Visible and in the blink of the view in your eyes become Invisible (disappears), I suspect it’s travel between dimensions.

Btw here is a factoid..... The air you breathe is made up of lots of other things besides oxygen! Oxygen only makes up about 21% of air. About 78% of the air you breathe is made up of another gas called nitrogen. There are also tiny amounts of other gases like argon, carbon dioxide and methane.

Yet, it keeps us alive and it is all Invisible! It exists because we say it does....

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posted on Oct, 30 2020 @ 12:01 PM
a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

Welcome back Kev.

There is too much crap in ufology that needs flushing out. Most of it, currently, comes from America. There seems to be a greater preponderance of hokey religions/cults. Fringe beliefs and plain ignorance are allowed to flourish.

I believe this to be because of a number of cultural factors. But I'll let Kurt Andersen explain it.

It probably started out in the 1950s to ensure the public was discouraged from reporting sightings . So as not to reveal the defensive capabilities and weaknesses of the US air defences to the Soviet Bloc.

However by the 1980s things had got a lot more sinister. With people being driven insane by intel agents . Fed with crazy stories. I think we all know at least one example. People being encouraged to believe they were abducted by aliens (mainly women and Whitley Streiber for some reason) by male hypnotists. What was that all about?

Now you have crazy new age & old age cults, the media and intelligence services in a symbiotic relationship promoting untruths and falsehoods to credulous audiences. Look at all the paranormal podcasts and TV shows available. Many with UFOtainers speaking to intel agents. People who are happy to tell you all about aliens and their crashed spaceships [which almost exclusively happens in America!] but not so much the latest weaponry being developed.

No one gets challenged for fear of losing guests who don't like hard questions.

TTSA is just the latest embodiment of that relationship. A man who dabbled in Scientology and a bunch of spooks plus a man who once sang about his canine fetishes.

They're not even hiding the fact. TTSA is filed as an motion picture company with their only real product being a TV show starring spooks.

America's ufology has been poisoned by too many fairytales for too long to serve the needs of a handful or intelligence operatives and make money for the ufotainment personalities.

Maybe we should take Americans and America out of the equation.

No tic-tacs, no Roswell, no Rendlesham, and far fewer crazy cult and belief systems ...Just a sober look without any primitive folkore and crazy occult views polluting the subject?

Would we get a clearer picture?

posted on Oct, 30 2020 @ 12:31 PM
a reply to: mirageman

Well, as you know, I agree with you 90%.

For me? That's not bad at all... take it as a compliment.

Going back to something I used to rant about.. the USG saw
how powerful the Church was, and wanted it's own religion
so it created all this CRAP. That's my literal take on it.

If you can make a man believe in an absurdity, you can make
him commit an atrocity - Voltaire.

Yet, there are anomalous things that need exploring.. even after
you remove all the crap.

Might it be that 'reality' is actually totally boring? Just 1 universe..
1 dimension.. QM is less weird than we think... just 'atomis and
the void' as one physicist I know raves about?

yes, that's certainly possible. And if that's the truth.. then I want
that proven.

but yes, we completely concur.. the USA needs to politely leave
UFOLogy and shut it's yapper. The USA is like those catholic
priests raping children. It has NO 'moral authority' to even
say UFO.

Let the rest of the world, which is more rational, poke at it.



posted on Oct, 30 2020 @ 06:01 PM
a reply to: lakespirit

A level headed and well informed approach if I’ve ever seen one!

I agree with the sentiment but I must say TTSA definitely hasn’t showed the “goods” so to speak but they have increased the size of my reading list tenfold!

posted on Oct, 30 2020 @ 06:08 PM
a reply to: deanbaker

If you like reading, I recommend Jack Brewer's "The Grays Have Been Framed". Especially if you think "Chains Of The Sea" is a good example of what's going on as Zondo would have you believe.

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posted on Oct, 30 2020 @ 06:32 PM
a reply to: pigsy2400

Jack's book, "The Grays Have Been Framed" is the best
UFOlogy book.

If you don't research the themes like Jack has in that
book, you are simply an unpaid shill for the US
intelligence community.

posted on Oct, 30 2020 @ 08:30 PM
I had not read this story of 5 years ago....a little bit of everything....religion, cloak and dagger, hidden info, conspiracy....

Story by Michael Tedder / Photography by Albert Sanchez 17 February 2015.

Blink-182's Tom DeLonge On UFOs, Government Coverups and Why Aliens are Bigger than Jesus Story

This from a different article......quite ambitious! But at what costs? His soul? Time may tell.

“The last show I played was in front of 100,000 people. They wonder why I’m not doing that now and I’ll say because this is the one moment in my life where I’ll be able to look back as an old man and say, ‘oh my god, I was apart of the team that changed the world.'”

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posted on Oct, 30 2020 @ 08:46 PM
a reply to: Ophiuchus1

Hydrogen is like one in a million... In air!

Interesting you mentioned vibrations as I feel a vibrational shift or displacement is possible.
Unexpected mass illnesses along with a forced "awakening" could arise from such an event.
The seven headed beast could be a realization of the negative parts within, the seven sins.

But this is followed by seven virtues with christos lighting the way... Or is it lucifer??

I dunno Tbh, I've still got my fingers crossed on Zeus.

posted on Oct, 31 2020 @ 01:49 AM

originally posted by: pigsy2400
I wonder how much Due Diligence Tom, Lue & the Crew did on their new "partners" and what would a small hokey but shady as hell company that makes TV screens for Sales & Marketing being doing for TTSA on behalf of the US Government?

originally posted by: KellyPrettyBear
a reply to: pigsy2400

Shady characters tend to only do business with other shady characters!
They both sound shady. Tom's TTSA is of course financed partially by a loan from a hot dog stand which apparently has never sold a hot dog. Robert Sheaffer tried to do some diligence on that, which was apparently not welcome:

To The Stars, or To The Dogs? The Case of the Missing Hot Dogs

I mentioned the loan payment that To The Stars will make to Our Two Dogs from the money raised by selling shares, and it quickly became apparent that Tommasino was unhappy with this line of inquiry. "Dun and Bradstreet is garbage, everyone knows they are garbage." The other employee agrees, they are garbage. (Dun and Bradstreet is, of course, the largest and most respected source of business information in the United States and in many foreign countries, founded in 1841.)

So yes, it does sound like shady characters doing business with other shady characters!

posted on Oct, 31 2020 @ 06:54 AM
a reply to: pigsy2400

My favourite is "the Mothman prophecies" but I'm biased?
You read much literature of an occult nature?

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posted on Oct, 31 2020 @ 07:04 AM
a reply to: Ophiuchus1

I have communication through synchronicity, my subconscious, dreams and intuition.

I found when i started to concentrate on certain numbers that relate to 3 6 9, and placed them in all things I do, like putting volume on speakers up to 36, or 27 for example, 3x3x3 =27
2+7= 9. Or set alarms for 9.06 or timers for 33 mins etc etc
When I did this synchronicity to these numbers increased exceptionally after a few days.
Almost like a workout for the subconscious.

posted on Oct, 31 2020 @ 10:11 AM

originally posted by: mirageman
a reply to: TheMadScientist2

Why does ufology always look at the US government when people like Knapp and Bigelow appear to be gatekeepers of information?

Unlike TTSA's spooky bunch of misfits, Knapp can't hide behind security oaths to the US government either. Unless he wants to admit to something that he's been also hiding for a long time.

Well said..... same goes for the Colares incident. There is a rumor that Bigelow has got material from that case including film footage, which was made by the brazilian army.
Hal Puthoff confirmed it . Begs the question how Bigelow got in possession of this material. Here is a rumor that Dave Beaty heard:

I'm pretty sure RB purchased a large cache of data from a Brazilian gov official. That's from my researcher friend in Brazil. Now was that a legal transaction? He said no, as much of the material was classified. But BAASS/AAWSAP was convincing in the day. That's the rumor.

Not sure about this methods...

posted on Oct, 31 2020 @ 01:37 PM
a reply to: TheMadScientist2

Colares is one of the most interesting cases. JV flew there
on his own Dime and investigated it.

There are some, that postulate that it was simply another
DARPA human experimentation test, rather like the small
French village that was dosed with 'Lisergic'.

It certainly seems there was more to it than that..
but without access to the data, we can only speculate.


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posted on Nov, 1 2020 @ 01:27 PM
a reply to: mirageman

Question for you sir;

in Great Britain, there was a massive spiritualist/paranormal movement
in the late 1800's, correct?

Now in America, that sort of movement, never left us, and indeed,
arguably, USG intelligence operatives have been proven to have
fanned the flames of both occult and UFO themes.

My question to you is, what happened in GB? Why were the flames
fanned in America, but in GB, it seems that didn't happen, or at least
to such an extent?

Are people in GB simply more rational?

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posted on Nov, 1 2020 @ 02:17 PM
a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

Spiritualism started in the industrial areas of the Northern industrial heartlands and then spread to the capital city. The working classes were fascinated by it for a time. But everything has its day.

Once Prince Albert imported Christmas Saxon style, and then football was invented in the 1860s, people had better things to do through the seasons. All that alongside empire building kept the people busy. It was all a lot more fun than sitting round a table watching an old lady do impressions of your dead grandmother and shaking a table with the lights out.

America didn't have such distractions. At least not until Space Invaders arrived in the 1970s and then Hip Hop music in the 1990s. So people there had a lot more time on their hands to dabble in the dark with their senior citizens. Unlike the Brits, American never realised it was all just a form of entertainment either. A bit like the Scots never realising the bagpipes were invented as a joke!

I trust that doesn't explain anything at all Kev.

posted on Nov, 1 2020 @ 02:31 PM
a reply to: mirageman

It didn't.

I suppose the real question, is why a very toxic form of mind-virus
evolved in American intelligence services, where they viewed
promoting irrational thinking to be to their benefit and they
thought so little of their own citizenry, they they experimented
on them and continue experimenting on them to this day.

Is this a side-effect of the 'American cowboy/gunslinger effect"
of the old west, where it was viewed as admirable who was
the toughest, meanest hombre?

America being so young, it hasn't evolved out of it's early
thug phase I'd imagine.. While older cultures may have
become more 'genteel', at least after they see their
empire has now fallen.. so no use trying to out-thug
people that perhaps social cooperation pays more
dividends than being a thug, when you have lost
your thug supremacy?



You know me, I'm sure you know this about me..
I knock UFOlogy, the occult, religion very
heavily.. but find some value in bits of it..
there's nothing wrong with 'out there' ideas,
I term it 'creative thinking'... but the goal does
have to be proving something as real, and not
just a self-serving fever dream at some point.

But I too LOATHE how UFOlogy, religion and the
occult has become WEAPONIZED, especially
by America.

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posted on Nov, 1 2020 @ 03:25 PM
a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

I suppose the real question, is why a very toxic form of mind-virus evolved in American intelligence services, where they viewed promoting irrational thinking to be to their benefit...

Like you said Kev. They saw a chance to weaponize it. To control the way someone thinks. Maybe other nations are just more subtle about it. Or tend to concentrate on their adversaries more than their own people?

posted on Nov, 1 2020 @ 04:03 PM
a reply to: mirageman

In America it's perfectly acceptable to be a total asshole, even
to each other, so long as you are rich and powerful.

posted on Nov, 1 2020 @ 04:46 PM
a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

Thank you for mentioning the book by Jack Brewer. It inspired me to visit the author's blog, which looks like a good resource as well.

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