Breaking BAASS, Assessing AATIP and Doubting Thomas ‘DeLonge’

originally posted by: mirageman
a reply to: gippo888

Lionel Messi earns more than $100k in a day!
So it doesn't sound like NASA are really putting a lot of resources behind this.

We can only hope that Messi becomes a ufologist ...
I think the Nasa project will last about 9 months

Interesting read here:

UFO Media Darling Lue Elizondo Still Works for the United States Government

After a few paragraphs commenting on various characters it gets to the meat,...

....since resigning from the Pentagon, what does Lue Elizondo do for a living? ..... I found my answer: Lue Elizondo is an active contractor with the United States government.

Well we established that a while ago but this is even more interesting....

...Some might suggest Elizondo was prohibited for a time from disclosing the existence of his contract with the government by operation of agency regulation, statute, non-disclosure agreement, or other legal mechanism. This, however, is not a convincing explanation for why Elizondo endeavors to mislead and conceal from the American public his formal arrangement with the government.

Assuming Elizondo’s purported contract is with and managed by the Department of Defense, the procedure for disclosing information related to that contract would be governed by Section 252.204.700 of the Defense Federal Acquisition Regulations (“DFARS”). Section 252.204.700 prohibits, among other things, the release of information pertaining to “any part of [the] contract or program related to [the] contract.”

In other words, nothing under the applicable regulation prevents Elizondo from disclosing the existence of his contract (if it is indeed with the DoD). Elizondo just chooses not to.

Perhaps its time for the media and close observers of this topic to begin asking why.

It's also a mystery why his ardent followers don't want this to be known nor why they continue to support the claim that BF Lue along with Mellon were allowed to lobby certain elements of the US DoD towards 'disclosure'. As part of TTSA and now as part of whatever 'contractor' he works for. If this is his job then who exactly does he work for and who exactly has he lobbied?

So far nobody asks and BF Lue never says.

So we are supposed to believe that he left the government because he couldn't get anyone to take UFOs seriously. Then he joined TTSA and the government suddenly became more amenable after growing the goatee. Then he left TTSA because something went wrong and he's back working for the government as a contractor and still briefing faceless bureauscrats.

So we continue to measure 5 years of claimed success in podcasts, media soundbites and social media posts that maintain the air of ambiguity that has been there since day one.

a reply to: mirageman

So we continue to measure 5 years of claimed success in podcasts, media soundbites and social media posts that maintain the air of ambiguity that has been there since day one.

It's brilliant really;

it's not necessary to actually know anything,
you just have to convince the dupes (the UFO
believers) that you DO know something, and
then you own them.

This is also how religion works.

Folks need to know this. Here's how this works.

I worked for a government entity once as a paid employee of that government entity. They had cutbacks and laid me off but since I was such a great employee( tongue and cheek), they hired me as a contractor/consultant until I could pass the civil service test and get back on the government’s payroll.

So, Elizondo working as a contractor means very very likely that he is still a tried and true servant of the USG. And always, maybe was even during his TTSA sojourn.

What would prove that is knowing when he became a government contractor. Likely right after his supposed retirement!

a reply to: peaceinoutz

it's a pain to let your security classification to elapse,
so if they like you, they keep you around in some way
so they can keep reneweing your security... if it lapses
they have to do a fresh (lengthy) background check.

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

If this entirely was an op, which many believe, me included, then all Zondo needed was health Insurance when he “retired” and I’m sure TTSA provided that.

Then the whole op is still ongoing.


What would be interesting to know is whether this UFO congressional panel tried to or has already interviewed Zondo?

If not, that would be very strange, to say the least.

Have any TTSA folks been interviewed by the congressional committee? That would be good to know. I don't think so, but I'm not sure.

originally posted by: peaceinoutz
a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

If this entirely was an op, which many believe, me included, then all Zondo needed was health Insurance when he “retired” and I’m sure TTSA provided that.

Then the whole op is still ongoing.


What would be interesting to know is whether this UFO congressional panel tried to or has already interviewed Zondo?

If not, that would be very strange, to say the least.

Have any TTSA folks been interviewed by the congressional committee? That would be good to know. I don't think so, but I'm not sure.

Yeah…..I would think they would have Zondo and Mellon as Star witnesses at some point in these bi-annual committee hearings….hmmm



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a reply to: peaceinoutz

What would be interesting to know is whether this UFO congressional panel tried to or has already interviewed Zondo?

Who interviews their co-conspirators?

Unless they give him the required answsers
he is supposed to say under oath well
in advance of course.

I would be interested in knowing that too!

a reply to: Ophiuchus1


In that picture, both of them have their left hands behind them with their fingers crossed.


If they did testify, then they would have to lie or ask for their testimony to go private and thereby blowing the whole op into political, and intelligence smithereens.

What next?
Justice didnt really think he could crowdfund a spaceship using ET scrap?
Semivan wasnt actually probed by Zeta Reticulans?
TDL isn't the chosen mouthpiece of truth due to his uncanny ability to read between the lines?

I'm getting a bit worried that nice Chris Mellon fellow might not actually want humanity to have free(ish) energy and flying cars after all....

futurism.com...

Stuff like this, is the real thing behind all this UAP BS.

originally posted by: Ophiuchus1

originally posted by: peaceinoutz
a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

If this entirely was an op, which many believe, me included, then all Zondo needed was health Insurance when he “retired” and I’m sure TTSA provided that.

Then the whole op is still ongoing.


What would be interesting to know is whether this UFO congressional panel tried to or has already interviewed Zondo?

If not, that would be very strange, to say the least.

Have any TTSA folks been interviewed by the congressional committee? That would be good to know. I don't think so, but I'm not sure.

Yeah…..I would think they would have Zondo and Mellon as Star witnesses at some point in these bi-annual committee hearings….hmmm

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what i would like to see is any paper work or current classifications held by Tom DeLong and any paycheck paid to him by any government owned companies

Heres Jeremy.

youtu.be...

Remember this……

Whistleblower threatens run for Congress if Pentagon UFO report watered down

……”Scheduled to drop on June 25, the groundbreaking document is designed to detail what the US government knows about Unidentified Flying Objects.

But Elizondo, who led the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP), does not anticipate unvarnished truth. And if the report turns out to be as watered down as he thinks it will be, he’s planning on taking matters into his own hands with a run for Congress.

“If the Pentagon’s Public Affairs officers, and those who give them orders, continue to obfuscate and mislead the American people about the reality of UAP [Unidentified Aerial Phenomena, a k a UFOs] and what our government knows about them, I may have no choice but to put my boots back on and run for Congress,” Elizondo tells The Post. “If that’s what it takes to get the truth out, that’s what I’ll do.”

That Lying Lue is too Funny…..I don’t think he would really want to dive into the Swamp…especially now.

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a reply to: Ophiuchus1

I think that Jeremy Corbell should run for congress.
He and that congress lady who beleives that Jews
are shooting laser beams at us from orbit can
become BFF's and he can even do a documentary
on her observation about Jewish Space Lasers!

You almost can't make this stuff up!

www.vox.com...

originally posted by: KellyPrettyBear
a reply to: Ophiuchus1

I think that Jeremy Corbell should run for congress.
He and that congress lady who beleives that Jews
are shooting laser beams at us from orbit can
become BFF's and he can even do a documentary
on her observation about Jewish Space Lasers!

You almost can't make this stuff up!

www.vox.com...

Jeremy Corbell was a good friend of the previous ATS owners. Strange way to Deny Ignorance, but agreed that Jeremy and Marjorie Taylor Green should hook up.

www.jewishboston.com...

Yeah, that guy Corbell is all over the place heralding the coming of the aliens. Like they say more catholic than the Pope he’s more ET than the ETS.

a reply to: peaceinoutz

Once a person believes in God, you can control them through their
god concept.

Once a person believes in UFOs, you can control them through their
UFO concept.

When you so love someone's twaddle, that you post about their
broke d*ck ideas all over social media, and fight people over
those ideas, they own your soul.

And Bigelow's Vegas UFO Mob just can't stop pumping out propaganda. Why do they keep telling the same lies?

Because gullible people want to believe them.

Here's the latest from Bigelow's Irish Stooge.

The Pentagon’s Secret UFO Program, the Hitchhiker Effect, and Models of Contagion [p19]

In September 2008 the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) initiated a $22 million, two-year contract with Bigelow
Aerospace Advanced Studies (BAASS) to scientifically study UFOs and their effects on humans...

But if you read the contract terms it wasn't about UFOs at all. So he's either lying or like the rest of Bigelow and his Vegas UFO Mob are so stupid they went ahead and studied UFOs anyway. Or more likely these people are actually just in it to milk money from taxpayers and Bigelow and only pretend paranormal studies.

...One area of investigation initiated by AAWSAP involved the (in)famous Skinwalker Ranch where multiple UFO sightings had taken place over decades

Colm's seems to be lying or being stupid again. Where are all these UFO reports? There are plenty around Utah. But it's a big place. But on the ranch itself there are no more UFO reports than any other place in the world.

... Lacatski himself had experienced a profound anomaly on the ranch in 2007; this experience, in fact , was a significant instigation for the formation of the AAWSAP/BAASS program

I don't believe that story at all. Why do so many American spooks claim these things?

...For several years following his July 2009 and subsequent trips to the Ranch, Axelrod’s wife and teenage children were subjected to nightmarish “dogmen” appearing in their back- yard; to blue, red, yellow, and white orbs routinely floating through the home and in the yard;

Yet more amazing tales from an American intel operative (who's real name is out there and he has recently been the subject of some controversy too[/i]).

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