What have you changed your mind on?

How has this changed your mind or opinion on things

Most of the videos I ever saw that the left marbles ‘Anti-Vax’ were about making vaccines safer, and not trusting the tests and the studies. They wanted more and open research done. How many liberal people are now saying they won’t take the COVID Vaccine because well, now they are anti-Vaxers.

How many people said, Why do you need a gun? Now they went out and bought a gun? If you bought a gun can you really vote for a mandatory gun by lit back team of Biden/Harris?

What’s your opinion of the police, before and after all of this?

How about BLM?

Government getting involved in the economy?

a reply to: SocratesJohnson

I can't say I've changed my opinion on too many things.
Don't want to vax? Enjoy polio.
Don't touch my guns. That's a no no.
Take some damn personal responsibility.
The term..yes officer... Might be best.
Blm is a terrorist organization.
And you can't regulate to success.

Taking a wider and longer view of things, from my early days as an atheist and follower of the philosophy of Ayn Rand, I...

became a Christian
dropped Ayn Rand
dropped out of Libertarianism
joined, then quit, the SDA church
became a universalist
stopped subscribing to the doctrine of Hell - even wrote a book about it
...and adjusted some attitudes along the way.

Here I am today, the Laz of 70 being very different from the Laz of 25.

a reply to: SocratesJohnson

I'm not getting the vax until it for sure works as of right now in my opinion it seems more likely to me that people who vaccinate on the regular might be more susceptible to covid. Personally iv had the minimum amount of vaccines I didnt get the H1N1 vaccine I did get the ones you receive as a baby but that is all. I do think vaccines work but I dont trust large companies to push them out at high speeds. Especially for a virus that has such a low kill rate and has SO many other effective treatment methods. I read a study the other day that says 60 percent of people go got the test vaccine were still able to get covid after. The only thing iv changed my mind on is these damn riots, these people cant even see that their being manipulated by the powers that be. How in gods name cant they see their being completely divided with race and political stance. More children go missing a year then covid or the police could kill, combined, and no one responds like this. Cant people see that they only care about things their told to care about and fight for things their told to fight for? It's sad honestly, were supposed to be adults yet we still allow ourselves to be manipulated like children and at the expensive OF THE REAL CHILDREN. I was all for people standing up to the system at first but these people's revolution has been hijacked right at the perfect time to distract everyone from all the pedophile stuff. It honestly infuriates me and makes me loose hope for all of us, we get what we get when we behave like this.

P.s. If your revolution is televised, it's probably not your revolution.

The deeper I get on vaccinations, the uglier it gets. I am staying away from it and advise others to as well. It does fracture confidence in the medical community with how the issue is handled.

Guns got restricted a while back.

The police are just doing there job. Some are taking it too far, most seam to be preferring to do other more important things. It is the dumb and corrupt politicians I have a problem with.

BLM is part of the democratic soviet coup.

The more eyes on the economy the harder it is to get away with BS.

When all of this started (virus crap) I figured the Dems had gone off the deep end. Today I KNOW they're all insane and have no idea what reality is.

Aside from that, pretty much what the others said.

a reply to: SocratesJohnson

I've stopped eating lead paint chips but am looking forward to something called the "Tide Pod" Challenge.

Other than that?

Still a firm believer of individuality, individual rights, freedom, free expression, the Constitution and Bill of Rights.

a reply to: SocratesJohnson

I'm still were I was at the start

Covid-19 is just a Virus always was , if the MSM hadn't gotten control of it we never would of known of it.

no force on heaven or earth could get that vaccine inside of me.

BLM I believe started out with good intentions , but signed a deal with the white devil they so hate.

Socialism is just pretty words , but a catastrophe in practice.

Ive changed my mind on basic vitamins and minerals. I now believe we should be doing significant research on things like Vit C & Vit D, all from a perspective of modern tools and understanding (rather than believing we know everything about them).

My perspective was modified, rather than changed, on the grip that the media truly has on peoples minds. Its gone so far that anything outside corporate media is "right wing." If they dont mention something, it either doesnt exist or is a so-called right wing talking point.

They were even able to program people to perceive good news about The Virus as republican. The ability they have to shift public opinion from day to day, frequently 180°, and not be called out on it is pretty disturbing. Not only that, many will staunchly defend outright contradictions as Truth. Absolutely remarkable.

Ive also modifed my opinion that this social group (the corporate-political or "woke" cult) has little to nothing to do with normal political spectrum. It may have risen from the decomposing corpse of the mainstream left, but it has little to do with what people think of as the political spectrum. Particularly when one examines the results rather than the flowery marketing.

And the more the media spins people off into a manufactured reality, the more those initiated into the cult will rely on them for both emotional addiction and the perception of "reality" itself. All while saying its everyone else that is drifting out into the sea of lunacy.

Third party filters on "what is happening" is not only redundant in modern times, it has clearly shown itself to be an imminent threat.

One thing is certain: I will never trust black people again. Ever.

Now that I know how they really feel I am not going to put myself or my family in danger. I know not every single black person is a threat. But until the ones who are wear a sign or something I am not going to take the chance.

I will not hire you.
I will not work with you.
I will not hang out with you.
I will not invite you into my home.
I will not feel sorry for you when you get shot committing a crime.
I will not pay one damn cent in reparations.
I will not speak ebonix because you cant speak English.

Edit: I will extend these same courtesies to liberals of any race or national origin.

Have a nice day.

Won't take the jab because I don't have full faith that what it's supposed to cure even exists.
Won't take the jab not because I'm anti-vax but because I don't trust the safety of what's in the syringe. (look up Gardasil)
Won't take the jab because pharma has immunity from lawsuits stemming from damages incurred by taking their drug. They passed that law for a reason.

I don't currently own any guns but I'm considering getting one now, something I never thought would happen. I'm not against guns and fully support the 2nd. I just never felt the need, until recent events.

BLM - no change in opinion or stance. I don't and never will support them as a movement but I agree that ALL lives matter and while there is corruption that exists within law enforcement, it's not specific to race.

Politics - changes weekly lol

a reply to: SocratesJohnson

Over the course of my adult life, i have changed my views on the following (with a little color added in):

- death penalty. I used to support it. After reading about Cameron Willingham, i can in no way support the death penalty again. Humans are too flawed to be trusted with that kind of grave finality
- guns. I never questioned a need for a gun, i was raised with them. But there was a point where i'd say, "Why do you need that (insert gun here)". Or "why carry a rifle in the streets". I've realized the folly of my thinking, and understand now that one needs no reason to exercise a right.
- abortion. i used to be uncaring/agnostic about the topic. I now am solidly against abortion, excepting serious medical need
- war. I cheered on the first and second gulf wars. I no longer support any war that isn't purely defensive


There are other things. But this is a good start.

As far as vaccination goes...i don't have much choice. I need to get vaccinated as soon as i feel its safe enough to. I take Remicade, and the last thing I need is to deal with an exotic infection.

originally posted by: Vroomfondel
One thing is certain: I will never trust black people again. Ever.

Now that I know how they really feel I am not going to put myself or my family in danger. I know not every single black person is a threat. But until the ones who are wear a sign or something I am not going to take the chance.

I will not hire you.
I will not work with you.
I will not hang out with you.
I will not invite you into my home.
I will not feel sorry for you when you get shot committing a crime.
I will not pay one damn cent in reparations.
I will not speak ebonix because you cant speak English.

Edit: I will extend these same courtesies to liberals of any race or national origin.

Have a nice day.

Whoa there mate lets bring it down a few notches , it's this kinda thinking that got us in this current predicament.

Admittedly some African Americans at the moment are acting ..lets say irrational . Most of them are young and impressionable looking for purpose and maybe a little chaos , I'm sure you can relate we were all once young adolescence.

but if you pay attention most African Americans condemn these acts of chaos and violence , I understand these young people believe there part of some revolution , like I said we were all once young and they don't realize there being manipulated and used for Political gain .

Dont paint with such a broad brush mate .

I thought COVID19 was legit when the media was reporting mass graves and shutting cities down in China.

But based off the science and numbers now we know it's barely more contagious and deadly than the normal flu season.

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow

originally posted by: Vroomfondel
One thing is certain: I will never trust black people again. Ever.

Now that I know how they really feel I am not going to put myself or my family in danger. I know not every single black person is a threat. But until the ones who are wear a sign or something I am not going to take the chance.

I will not hire you.
I will not work with you.
I will not hang out with you.
I will not invite you into my home.
I will not feel sorry for you when you get shot committing a crime.
I will not pay one damn cent in reparations.
I will not speak ebonix because you cant speak English.

Edit: I will extend these same courtesies to liberals of any race or national origin.

Have a nice day.

Whoa there mate lets bring it down a few notches , it's this kinda thinking that got us in this current predicament.

Admittedly some African Americans at the moment are acting ..lets say irrational . Most of them are young and impressionable looking for purpose and maybe a little chaos , I'm sure you can relate we were all once young adolescence.

but if you pay attention most African Americans condemn these acts of chaos and violence , I understand these young people believe there part of some revolution , like I said we were all once young and they don't realize there being manipulated and used for Political gain .

Dont paint with such a broad brush mate .

I had rioters smashing windows 150 feet from my house.

You paint with whatever brush you want. I live in the real world and I stand by my statement. I know not all black people are dangerous. But until the ones that are wear a sign or something - I am not taking the chance with my family's well being.

And no, that thinking is not what got us into this in the first place. People all over the world have been slaves for centuries. Its only a major problem here in the US with certain "gimme or else" types that will never be given enough to make them happy. They demand reparations. What do you call all the things they already have? Subsidized housing, free healthcare, free tuition, free cable tv, free cell phone, monthly stipend, preferential hiring, modified exams to accommodate low test scores (civil service etc), miss black America pageant, and so on. Its all reparations of one form or another and it will NEVER be enough.

I never used to be racist but I am now. I learned how from minorities.

Edit: you say some are acting 'irrational'. Is that a nice way of saying they are killing innocent people for being white?

originally posted by: Vroomfondel
One thing is certain: I will never trust black people again. Ever.

Now that I know how they really feel I am not going to put myself or my family in danger. I know not every single black person is a threat. But until the ones who are wear a sign or something I am not going to take the chance.

I will not hire you.
I will not work with you.
I will not hang out with you.
I will not invite you into my home.
I will not feel sorry for you when you get shot committing a crime.
I will not pay one damn cent in reparations.
I will not speak ebonix because you cant speak English.

Edit: I will extend these same courtesies to liberals of any race or national origin.

Have a nice day.

Damn, man.
You are excluding the company of a lot of good people.
One rotten apple doesn't spoil the whole barrel.
Midgets...that's a different story they are all evil and want to touch you with their Vienna sausage fingers while you sleep.
That's a fact Jack.

originally posted by: Homefree

originally posted by: Vroomfondel
One thing is certain: I will never trust black people again. Ever.

Now that I know how they really feel I am not going to put myself or my family in danger. I know not every single black person is a threat. But until the ones who are wear a sign or something I am not going to take the chance.

I will not hire you.
I will not work with you.
I will not hang out with you.
I will not invite you into my home.
I will not feel sorry for you when you get shot committing a crime.
I will not pay one damn cent in reparations.
I will not speak ebonix because you cant speak English.

Edit: I will extend these same courtesies to liberals of any race or national origin.

Have a nice day.

Damn, man.
You are excluding the company of a lot of good people.
One rotten apple doesn't spoil the whole barrel.
Midgets...that's a different story they are all evil and want to touch you with their Vienna sausage fingers while you sleep.
That's a fact Jack.

I got a thing about dorfs too. Don't trust them.

As for 'good people', I know not all are bad. But every day I grow less willing to waste time and risk my own safety seeking out the good ones. When Rodney King got beaten there were riots, violent riots. Ask Reginald Denny about it. Did black people limit their aggression to the cops who did it? No, they attacked innocent white people. That was almost 30 years ago. 25 years ago white people were getting attacked in the streets because OJ. I admit, it took a while for the lesson to sink in but I got it - black people will attack white people for damn near any reason they can think of and feel justified doing it. Sorry, but that shlt doesn't fly in this airport.

a reply to: Vroomfondel
and this took a turn...

originally posted by: Vroomfondel

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow

originally posted by: Vroomfondel
One thing is certain: I will never trust black people again. Ever.

Now that I know how they really feel I am not going to put myself or my family in danger. I know not every single black person is a threat. But until the ones who are wear a sign or something I am not going to take the chance.

I will not hire you.
I will not work with you.
I will not hang out with you.
I will not invite you into my home.
I will not feel sorry for you when you get shot committing a crime.
I will not pay one damn cent in reparations.
I will not speak ebonix because you cant speak English.

Edit: I will extend these same courtesies to liberals of any race or national origin.

Have a nice day.

Whoa there mate lets bring it down a few notches , it's this kinda thinking that got us in this current predicament.

Admittedly some African Americans at the moment are acting ..lets say irrational . Most of them are young and impressionable looking for purpose and maybe a little chaos , I'm sure you can relate we were all once young adolescence.

but if you pay attention most African Americans condemn these acts of chaos and violence , I understand these young people believe there part of some revolution , like I said we were all once young and they don't realize there being manipulated and used for Political gain .

Dont paint with such a broad brush mate .

I had rioters smashing windows 150 feet from my house.

You paint with whatever brush you want. I live in the real world and I stand by my statement. I know not all black people are dangerous. But until the ones that are wear a sign or something - I am not taking the chance with my family's well being.

And no, that thinking is not what got us into this in the first place. People all over the world have been slaves for centuries. Its only a major problem here in the US with certain "gimme or else" types that will never be given enough to make them happy. They demand reparations. What do you call all the things they already have? Subsidized housing, free healthcare, free tuition, free cable tv, free cell phone, monthly stipend, preferential hiring, modified exams to accommodate low test scores (civil service etc), miss black America pageant, and so on. Its all reparations of one form or another and it will NEVER be enough.

I never used to be racist but I am now. I learned how from minorities.

Edit: you say some are acting 'irrational'. Is that a nice way of saying they are killing innocent people for being white?

Pretty sure all the deaths involved with the riots/protesting were white people killing white people, but I could be wrong. I don’t read much news these days.

I found myself coming back to my original stance; it’s all bullsh*t.

For 33 years I never paid attention to politics. I always had a gut feeling that politicians were lying sacks of sh*t. I think it came from being visited by governors and mayors back in my school days and I’ve always been a good judge of character, even in my younger years. In 2015 I started paying attention more, started learning about the histories of the parties and what they’re former and current stances are.

In the last year, it’s become an intensified vacuum of bullsh*t. Pandering. Lying. Hypocrisy. It’s all a bunch of scumbags finding a way to make money off the American public, if they’re not in it for money, they’re in it for power....which will eventually get them more money. On both sides.

The only thing I’ve really changed perspective on is that I did not believe the general US population were as gullible and willing to follow as they are. I often associated that mentality with high school and how people tend to flock to cliques, but its the exact same thing in adult age and really took me by surprise. The swords people are willing to die on in favor of their favorite politician or political stance is remarkable and is a sign to me that the politicians have won.