Are the COVID numbers being manipulated in America ?

I keep hearing about financial incentives from different sources within the health community.

1) $13K for a COVID diagnosis.
2) $39K for incubation
3) More money for Covid on the death certificate .

Does it matter if they were a healthy person in a fatal car crash, they had Covid.
Doesn't matter if they had stage 4 cancer that was being treated for the last 5 years and the Cancer killed them, they might have had Covid too so let's put that as cause of death.

If you want some real numbers, for just a month take away all financial incentives for reporting COVID within the medical community, then we might see what the numbers really are.

I had a nurse arguing with me that no matter what they always have done that, for example the death certificate says the person died of pneumonia when they had AIDS for 10 years and their immune system went so low, that's the last thing they had before they died, even if that is true I find that to be deceptive and artificial. If a person had AIDS for 10 years and the very last 3 days of their life they have pneumonia, what really killed them?

Was it AIDS or pneumonia ? Perhaps a better explanation, cause of death "patient died from complications of AIDS"

This frustrates me that COVID is monetized, and ruining peoples lives that aren't sick at all.

a reply to: Blue_Jay33

This frustrates me that COVID is monetized, and ruining peoples lives that aren't sick at all.

99% must suffer for the less than 1% adversely affected.

Anyone with any ounce of logic, knows this isn’t about a virus anymore. Probably never was.

I just saw that in the US new COVID 19 cases are down 50,000 for the sixth day in a row.
www.foxbusiness.com...#&_intcmp=hp1s1_business,hp1s

At my hometown COVID 19 site our new virus cases are down dramatically, the last week less than 30 new cases a day for an area of 500,000 people. The last few days have been, no new cases, less than 30 new cases, less than 25 new cases. Only one new death in the past week and with the financial incentive for hospitals to lie, who knows if it was co-morbidity or actually the virus.

As many predicted, the upcoming election has seemed to start to end the plague (joke)

Anyway, it appears that it is getting much better and there are few to no mainstream media who are reporting this.

I agree that continued heavy restrictions on businesses are killing off a huge number of small businesses, leaving only the mega corporations still surviving. This virus seems to have destroyed the lower classes financially. Destroyed small business. Been great for the rich, the elite, and corporations, especially the heavily left/liberal Democratic Party supporting tech companies and online companies.

a reply to: Blue_Jay33

It's all just bad data until you know exactly how many people are asymptomatic and weren't counted.

Yes the numbers have been grossly manipulated here in the US.

This was a staged event with many making money and many more losing money.

Funny how it did not happen like that in Sweden, the only country in the world who did it right.

Let's ask the goat and pawpaw:

Presiden t queries Tanzania coronavirus kits after goat test

The president said he had instructed Tanzanian security forces to check the quality of the kits. They had randomly obtained several non-human samples, including from a pawpaw, a goat and a sheep, but had assigned them human names and ages.

These samples were then submitted to Tanzania’s laboratory to test for the coronavirus, with the lab technicians left deliberately unaware of their origins.

Samples from the pawpaw and the goat tested positive for COVID-19, the president said, adding this meant it was likely that some people were being tested positive when in fact they were not infected by the coronavirus.

Real numbers exist, they just have to be extrapolated.

We know how many people die each year. Regardless of what from. We know what the population is. So when we look at real numbers of how many people died this year, as opposed to previous years, we can take the overage and attribute that to Covid. (in a general sense)

If the numbers are relatively close, we can realize that this was the most monumental fluck up in human history, it they are grossly distorted, then we will know this was a horrible event that killed millions and we should have locked ourselves in boxes for 6 months and set up IV drips for sustenance.

The truth won't be able to hide behind political stupidity on either side.

You better believe it, how else can it be deemed so detrimental that forced vaccines will be implemented.

And

You'll note i said vaccines not vaccine as the vaccine will be a 2 stage deal you wait and see.

1st one made harmless to convince the naysayers its ok to get vaccinated

2nd one to do their will and the true agendas purpose.

a reply to: network dude
I took this screen shot last week, just to give you an idea.
I posted this on another forum, and suddenly the entire thread was disappeared, not locked with an explanation or moved to "Hot Topics" which they have, just totally gone. And it was a longer thread with many posters
People really fear something that even drifts towards what might be the truth.

In many countrys numbers are being manipulated.

Renowned Forensic Doctor Destroys Media ‘Killer Virus’ Lies: ‘Nobody has Died of Covid-19 in Hamburg without Previous Illnesses’ (Watch)

a reply to: The2Billies

As many predicted, the upcoming election has seemed to start to end the plague

If Biden takes office an 2021, this magically disappears, it was always said that crashing the American economy would end Trump.

a reply to: Blue_Jay33

Congress built Covid rewards for hospitals into their first two trillion-dollar stimulus bill.

That is why you do not see the number of deaths declining this time like you did during the first decline, when the Northeast and Midwest were affected.

A ton of money in the system now for people being labeled as covid-19 positive after they have died.... even though they were not treated for covid-19 in the hospital, or before they had the sudden accident.

That's chump change. I think many hospitals could be losing money. Surgeries were cancelled. Routine stuff was put off in some places. I know many people who are avoiding the hospital that would ordinarily be there all of the time with complaints.

Two months ago, I had classic covid symptoms that lasted less than a week. Including the rash, which I still have some remnants of. I tested negative for sars2 three times.

Right now, I am dealing with what checks most of the post-covid boxes in my opinion. (I am a MD medical scientist myself).

I've had 2 cat scans, 2 xrays, 1 ultrasound. They've done just about every blood and urine test. I've seen some specialists, and had their tests run, too.

It's clearly more profitable for this hospital when my doctor says it wasn't covid and runs every test available.

He has just about ruled everything out except for post-covid at this point. I think my doctor may order the antibody test soon. It's about all that he hasn't done. It could be too late to find any antibodies real soon.

Ultimately it's we the people that have been manipulated, not so sure it just disappears if JoeKam get elected either. Collectively we are easier to control and continue to manipulate in rolling lockdowns and restrictions.

a reply to: carewemust

Congress built Covid rewards for hospitals into their first two trillion-dollar stimulus bill.

Interesting. I hadn't heard that before. Do you have a source or an excerpt, CWM?

a reply to: Blue_Jay33

To answer your question; more than likely.
The hospital that I'm stationed at has 13 to 14 Chinese flu patients. Yet, the NMDOH reports that currently, there are 65 Positive patients in NM. Where are they? Without going into detail, the Chinese flu patients go to the level 1 hospitals, because of our expertise (?).
And that's all I can say about it.

Of course the Covid numbers are being manipulated.

Hospitals manipulating for the federal $$.

Trump hating Dems manipulating the numbers to destroy Trump's chances of re-election.

It's not even arguable at this point.

Early on to many of us were focused on the worldwide numbers on that website.
www.worldometers.info...

I think but can’t prove the numbers have been massaged world wide, especially in the US. Here in Knoxville Tn, the local health department was caught playing with the numbers and last week the State of Tennessee took over the local health department.

a reply to: Blue_Jay33

Haven’t read your OP yet but wanted to answer the question.

Yes.