Turkey COVID recovery rate versus the Western world using HCQ

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: odzeandennz
COVID is a hoax folks, by the dems after the Russia hoax.


You don’t even need hq, it’s just a flu that will go away in heat and kids are basically immune to it

Amazing how the Dems managed to persuade the entire world to join in an anti Trump hoax.

I know right. Plus symptoms are no more than flu like... to be honest I don’t even know why HQ is even being used by foreign nations.

Crazie leftist and their agendas ( from which they’re immune)

a reply to: ScepticScot
When did I ever say it was?

a reply to: 727Sky

If that's true then anyone blocking this treatment should be jailed. I do believe the blood of those dying would be on THEIR hands. Blocking HCQ treatments could even be considered terrorism because the only reason they say it doesn't work is because the President they hate says it does. This is downright repulsive.

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
Hmmmm.....”the gateway pundit” doesn’t really sound to me like it’s going to be publishing ground breaking medical research.

Now am not saying hydroxychloroquine will or won’t work, from what I have seen more research is required. I don’t think it’s a question though that is going to be answered in the gate way pundit

The source doesn't matter though, if those stats are true and HCQ really does work and is only being ignored because Trump said it works, then we have a major problem. More major than we already have.

What you won't believe is that he's stringing you along until their plan comes to fruition.

a reply to: carewemust

originally posted by: ManFromEurope
My rheumatologist told me: "If I said the things Trump said about this, I would be losing my license within a week!".

Luckily for Trump, he is not a doctor.

I have to question that... Especially if he prescribed Quensyl (hydroxychloroquine) for you yesterday.

originally posted by: odzeandennz

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: odzeandennz
COVID is a hoax folks, by the dems after the Russia hoax.


You don’t even need hq, it’s just a flu that will go away in heat and kids are basically immune to it

Amazing how the Dems managed to persuade the entire world to join in an anti Trump hoax.

I know right. Plus symptoms are no more than flu like... to be honest I don’t even know why HQ is even being used by foreign nations.

Crazie leftist and their agendas ( from which they’re immune)

Actually the symptoms for over 98% of the people who get it are no more than a weak cold.

originally posted by: LSU2018

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
Hmmmm.....”the gateway pundit” doesn’t really sound to me like it’s going to be publishing ground breaking medical research.

Now am not saying hydroxychloroquine will or won’t work, from what I have seen more research is required. I don’t think it’s a question though that is going to be answered in the gate way pundit

The source doesn't matter though, if those stats are true and HCQ really does work and is only being ignored because Trump said it works, then we have a major problem. More major than we already have.

That stats don't say it works. As other had already pointed out it might work but the evidence doesn't support it at the moment.

a reply to: odzeandennz

Secret controlled tests in New York nursing homes are underway 😈

originally posted by: 727Sky
If this report is true there is a big contrast between people treated for COVID in Turkey with hydroxychloroquine and those treated in the USA and much of the western world using anything but hydroxychloroquine is a conspiracy in itself. I understand why help people for 15 dollars when you can suck mega bucks out of the government and insurance companies. Great racket.

“Once at the hospital, Dr Yiyit says the treatment is increased and combined with high-flow oxygen treatment, anti-coagulants, steroids, vitamins and more high-dose favipiravir or hydroxychloroquine…”
“Most of patients recover in five days,” Dr Yiyit insists.”

I would say that is really some great recovery News..

www.thegatewaypundit.com...

most patients recover in 5 days or so when getting nothing.

originally posted by: 727Sky
johnbwellsnews.com...

On April 6, 2020, an international team of medical experts published an extensive study of hydroxychloroquine in more than 130,000 patients with connective tissue disorders. They reaffirmed that hydroxychloroquine was a safe drug with no serious side effects. The drug could safely be given to pregnant women and breast-feeding mothers. Consequently, countries such as China, Turkey, South Korea, India, Morocco, Algeria, and others began to use hydroxychloroquine widely and early in their national pandemic response. Doctors overseas were safely prescribing the drug based on clinical signs and symptoms because widespread testing was not available.

However, the NIH promoted a much different strategy for the United States. The “Fauci Strategy” was to keep early infected patients quarantined at home without treatment until they developed a shortness of breath and had to be admitted to a hospital. Then they would they be given hydroxychloroquine. The Food and Drug Administration cluelessly agreed to this doctrine and it stated in its hydroxychloroquine Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) that “hospitalized patients were likely to have a greater prospect of benefit (compared to ambulatory patients with mild illness).”

In reality just the opposite was true. This was a tragic mistake by Fauci and FDA Commissioner Dr. Stephen Hahn and it was a mistake that would cost the lives of thousands of Americans in the days to come.

At the same time, accumulating data showed remarkable results if hydroxychloroquine were given to patients early, during a seven-day window from the time of first symptom onset. If given during this window, most infections did not progress into the severe, lethal second stage of the disease. Patients still got sick, but they avoided hospitalization or the later transfer to an intensive care unit. In mid-April a high-level memo was sent to the FDA alerting them to the fact that the best use for hydroxychloroquine was for its early use in still ambulatory COVID patients. These patients were quarantined at home but were not short of breath and did not yet require supplemental oxygen and hospitalization.

Failing to understand that COVID-19 could be a two-stage disease process, the FDA ignored the memo and, as previously mentioned, it withdrew its EUA for hydroxychloroquine based on flawed studies and clinical trials that were applicable only to late-stage COVID patients.

By now, however, some countries had already implemented early, aggressive, outpatient community treatment with hydroxychloroquine and within weeks were able to minimize their COVID deaths and bring their national pandemic under some degree of control.

johnbwellsnews.com...

It is a proven undeniable fact that if given early, hydroxychloroqine (HCQ) given with azithromycin and zinc will cure coronavirus. It is a proven undeniable fact that hydroxychloroquine is safe. It is an approved medicine and has been in use for 65 years with an outstanding safety record.

Hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) is under attack for two reasons. One is that Trump recommended it based on Dr. Zelenko’s successful cures of his patients in New York. Consequently, Democrats and the presstitutes have allied with Big Pharma and demonized HCQ hoping to use the false claim that it causes heart attacks to discredit Trump and reduce his chance of reelection. The other is that Big Pharma and the public health organizations, such as NIH, CDC, and WHO which have revolving door relationships with Big Pharma and share in the revenues, are desperate to block an effective and inexpensive treatment when they can make billions of dollars on a mandated vaccine and an ineffectual treatment known as Remdesivir. The Covid vaccine that is being developed perhaps also reflects a darker agenda. The vaccine alters the DNA of the person receiving it. The consequences are unknown.

Remdesivir has been allowed as a Covid treatment prior to being tested, but HCQ which has been proven safe for 65 years is prohibited in the US and most of Europe.

t.co...

To add to this...in order for them to fast track the vaccine they have to show proof that there isn't a viable option that already exists that can be effective. Thus the major backlash on HCQ. Big Pharma $$ scam once again. Big Political scam once again.

A new Truth in Media from Ben Swann was released this morning

Outlining new trials on HCQ, dealing with effectiveness and death rates associated.

A good watch and another source of info

Ben Swann, Truth in Media HCQ

US:
Deaths: 162,098
Recovered: 2,551,453
Recovery Rate: 94%

Turkey:
Deaths: 5,798
Recovered: 220,546
Recovery Rate: 97%

Wonder drug?

www.worldometers.info...

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: 727Sky

Corrupt or Blackmailed people are in charge of the FDA. They won't allow HCQ to be easily attainable for treating Covid-19.

President Trump has DOJ teams working to get things cleaned up. He said yesterday on FoxBusiness, we're not going to believe how much corruption exists at top levels of many Federal Government agencies.

I have been a witness to some strange things with Gov agencies... If you speak up you get black balled. I nearly did but eventually the gov figured out those bozo's were on the take and fired them... They got homes and graft and I don't think the IRS was involved to claim the back taxes from the illegal gifts. I did what I could do and found out it isn't who I am, it is who I know. Apparently I am, as George Carlin put it, "not in the club".....Carlin sure pegged the elite in Gov...

Hydroxychloroquine is used successfully by lots of doctors in conjunction with various treatments. It is a decent treatment, not a panacea of medicine. It helps lots of people. And it is cheap. If the disease progresses to a serious point, it is too late as a treatment though, not many people are going to benefit by most of the medicines if the condition has gone too far. That goes for all meds, once the disease turns the corner, many meds cannot cure the disease anymore.

originally posted by: peter vlar
a reply to: ScepticScot

Especially when favipiravir is an antiviral medication that works on RNA viruses. Lo and behold... what type of virus is SARS Cov-2? An RNA virus. But hey... they mentioned hydroxychloroquine in the article so that's the one that must be the magic bullet, not the antiviral that targets the type of virus Covid is.

Small problem with your theory Peter....and we dont accept Peer Approved Data here we only accept common sense......the problem you have is that there is no such thing as a "virus"....its all a lie......over to you Little Petey.

a reply to: one4all

You truly need help if all you can contribute are ad hom attacks with no basis in reality. We already know you don't understand science so you're willful ignorance is ignored by everyone.

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
a reply to: 727Sky

Well that is because the people in Turkey have far more freedoms than in the U.S., they even get to choose the medicine they need to get better.

So do we... it is called the Right to Try law. I will insist on and demand high dose IV vitamin C if I'm ever kidnapped into a hospital.

a reply to: tanstaafl

So do we... it is called the Right to Try law. I will insist on and demand high dose IV vitamin C if I'm ever kidnapped into a hospital.

I think that you may not have a full understanding of that law.

An eligible patient is a patient who has:

Been diagnosed with a life-threatening disease or condition

Exhausted approved treatment options and is unable to participate in a clinical trial involving the eligible investigational drug (this must be certified by a physician who is in good standing with their licensing organization or board and who will not be compensated directly by the manufacturer for certifying)

An eligible investigational drug is an investigational drug:

For which a Phase 1 clinical trial has been completed

That has not been approved or licensed by the FDA for any use

For which an application has been filed with the FDA or is under investigation in a clinical trial that is intended to form the primary basis of a claim of effectiveness in support of FDA approval and is the subject of an active investigational new drug application submitted to the FDA

Whose active development or production is ongoing, and that has not been discontinued by the manufacturer or placed on clinical hold by the FDA

www.fda.gov...

originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
a reply to: 727Sky

Well that is because the people in Turkey have far more freedoms than in the U.S., they even get to choose the medicine they need to get better.

So do we... it is called the Right to Try law. I will insist on and demand high dose IV vitamin C if I'm ever kidnapped into a hospital.

Doctors and nurses have rights too, go ahead and try and tell them how to do their jobs if you think it will work out well for you, I suspect though it won't.