US/Israel will have some issues finding these Iranian missiles.

These very well hidden missile sights will not be easy to spot from Space or by drones. If you cant spot these missiles you wont know how to take them out.

There are no hatches being opened there is no Earth moving to make way for the missile, its like it bors its own way out of the sand...…



Iran might be gaining a upper hand by being able to hide their missiles like this.

Nothing they have will be the 'upper hand'.

Anything they have, and anything they do, would be met with much worse, by Israel and the U.S.

So they can have anything they want, but once they use them, that regime in Iran is history.

a reply to: spy66

They can always put some LiDAR on F-35's and sneak in at night to do recon.

www.nationalgeographic.com...

a reply to: grey580

Yeah that is going be efficient… to put a Lidar on a F-35 to scan the Surface of Iran. The sight in the video is just a test sight. And probably very easy to spot. But where they actually have the missiles dug in will probably be much more hidden.

Pretty sure our spy sats have more than just cameras on them. Pretty sure we would be avle to find them.

a reply to: RickyD

Yes if the sights are being preped from the Surface that will probably be the case. But if they are being prepared from tunnels it would be a Whole different ball game....

That is pretty cool but the dynamic has shifted from taking out the threat on the ground to anti missile whilst in flight technology especially the electro magnetic Gatling gun.......

youtu.be...


As well as drone swarms also being used as anti missile tech..........

defense.info...

The people who do need to be weary of these missiles is Israel. Palestine and it surrounding area are full of tunnels, and depending on the mobility of these missiles to be positioned stealthily underground close enough to the iron shield to reduce the shield effectiveness at not being able to lock on in time.

originally posted by: spy66
These very well hidden missile sights will not be easy to spot from Space or by drones. If you cant spot these missiles you wont know how to take them out.

There are no hatches being opened there is no Earth moving to make way for the missile, its like it bors its own way out of the sand...…

Iran might be gaining a upper hand by being able to hide their missiles like this.

Iran will get a few hits and then turned into a wasteland.. everybody it itching to have a reason to show Iran a lesson.

Iran might be gaining a upper hand by being able to hide their missiles like this.

I literally busted out laughing at my kitchen table. Kids looked at me all weird and everything.

a reply to: spy66

You would be surprised what spy satellites can detect, underground tunnel's, hidden facility's and all because they have other method's than simply radar to look into the ground how far down is classified but a good way's, there is very little that can hide from the latest tech (perhaps the US systems have also long been able to track submarines including the soviet, sorry RF Yasan varient) even in deep ocean as well so the Chinese recent claims about quantum radar are not going to put them ahead just being them a bit closer behind).

It say's these pass over twice a day, say in reality eight time's a day and more of them being up there than are acknowledged since being military you have to have redundancy especially in time's of anti satellite missiles even though these thing's are stealth as well making them almost impossible for a missile to gain a good lock on if any.
Also remember that this is OLD news, if the public know about it then it is at - LEAST - 10 to 20+ years behind there real current apex capability's.
www.nbcnews.com...

The difficulty come's when Agency's HOARD there information and are slow to share it or repurpose there orbital assets to help armed forces or other agency's, which given they usually draw on there own budgets may be more common than you may think.

Likely Israel has top spec near current apex technology in this regard but likely not put up by themselves but the US on there behalf and shared with the US.

So think again, these missiles are well camouflaged from the ground and air - there are drone and other air surveillance suits that will detect them and reveal these sites however but far from impossible to detect.

However these missiles do pose a threat to Iran's neighbours whom are more close in term's of technology to them than the leading capability's of the US and its' close allies (not all of them but Israel is sure to have some sweet, sweet goodies from them there and a lot of Israeli scientists probably work on US top secret projects as well - being among the brainiest chaps and lasses in the world - so it is an automatic share there).


Even civilian radar satellites (the us probably has undetectable quantum technology's and ultra top secret visible and invisible spectrum sensor suites and analysis tools) that archaeologists are using which are at - best - the equivalent of 50 year old military satellites (and likely no where near as good as even those old machines) to detect hidden rivers under the sand, ruin's and sign's of settlement in the Sahara and Taklamakan deserts prove that the technology is old stuff that can not only detect these types of concealment but pinpoint them down to the inch.

Is this in running with their fleet of plywood swamp coolers that were supposed to be "the upper hand" ?
Or showcasing their ability to sink a US aircraft carrier ?
That was made of the same plywood ?
That did not fire back ?
And they give up after hours of bringing all their firepower to bear ?

Something like that ?

originally posted by: Middleoftheroad

Iran might be gaining a upper hand by being able to hide their missiles like this.

I literally busted out laughing at my kitchen table. Kids looked at me all weird and everything.

Oh yeah too right Pretty convincing that the combined USA armed forces, IDF, Brits, French and Arabs are getting concerned about losing the upper hand

a reply to: ufoorbhunter
I would not get so cocky. Turkey and France had a spat at sea, and turkey is currently projecting more force than France with regards to military deployments. Israel is in a defensive posture due to now being surrounded by more well armed enemies than ever before. The arabs specifically the KSA lost their upper hand awhile ago. Regular missile and drone attacks re now common the heart of the kingdom including he capital Riyadh as well as bases far away from the yemen border. What few bases have not yet been successfully ambushed and destroyed by ansar Allah. That is all Iran's doing too just using Yemen manpower and Iranian science.

Turkey and Iran are on good terms.

This is literally one of the single worst points in modern history to be underestimating the enemy. I suspect Erdogan and ayatollah may even come to some sort of mutual defense agreement. Ankara just deployed troops to Azerbaijan, which is an Iranian border state and client state as the people and history are essentially the same.

Do not ridicule or mock an enemy while our allies in the region are on the defensive. It displays a poor judgement on the belief of unchallenged supremacy.

a reply to: spy66

No I literally mean we have instrumentation that sees a lot more than visual images. Hell publically we look at orbital bodies light years away with stunning detail...we can see past the surface of earth pretty easily now.

a reply to: worldstarcountry

Yeah ok you make some good points and for sure it is all too easy to be "cocky" as you call it but you have it completely wrong when you claim Israel is the defensive.

Israel has never had it so good, Syria its main borderline advisory that exists has committed suicide and is no match for the IDF. At least for three to five years which is the expected time to rebuild its armed forces. Egypt is back under the influence of friendship at least at the top. Lebanon is about as scary as Andorra. Sure Hezbollah amasses weapons on the northern border and that is an issue but if the gloves came off and Israel went after them proper style and I'm talking gloves off the Lebanese issue could be sorted with extreme speed, indeed re-taking southern Lebanon would be a good idea and with modern systems the area could be controlled better than pre 2000.

Saudi's and Jordanian's are on side facing a Persian enemy in the east. All possess the tech that if proper shooting started would wreak havoc on the Iranian regime of unseen proportions, nothing at all comes close to the Israeli airforce, it is literally generations ahead of any competition in the region, as long as it can get airborne then nothing can come close and you know it. Six Day War v2 to be expected

We heard all this nonsense about Saddam and his regime, sure the Iranians will blow up a few cities in Israel by unleashing missiles, but if the gloves come off and all the Hearts & Minds PC kak is dropped for proper Soviet style assault in 1944 of total destruction of the Germans then Israel will prevail, sure the cost will be immense but they will prevail as long as those American white unmarked Boeing freighters keep landing in Israel

The gap between Israeli weaponry and the surrounding states has never been as great and if it comes to proper gloves off warfare, then Israel could take on the dangers and succeed, Boeing's landing regularly of course

All that African stuff you mentioned, mate that's been going on for hundreds of years it's nothing new, outside forces always get involved as another force / coloniser pulls out.

I do agree Turkey is the loose cannon here and could be the only real threat to Israel, but much of what we see on the news is for votes by the governing classes, behind the scenes Israel has big military and business links with Turkey and when push comes to shove well who knows, but if the Turks have any understanding of survival they will have reasoned the meaning of a simple word combination that sits off their coast as does the Persian Gulf and those words are........................ I give you a count of ten................................................................................................................................................... ...................................... Er you got it? Scroll down for the answer, they really don't want to get tangled with these words.............................................................




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originally posted by: Black_Fox
Nothing they have will be the 'upper hand'.

Anything they have, and anything they do, would be met with much worse, by Israel and the U.S.

So they can have anything they want, but once they use them, that regime in Iran is history.

It's the truth Israel is just looking/waiting for an excuse to War with Iran , The United States is as well but Iran will have to do something really really stupid for the USA to cross that line.

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow
It's the truth Israel is just looking/waiting for an excuse to War with Iran , The United States is as well but Iran will have to do something really really stupid for the USA to cross that line.

But it was not that way originally for Israel and not for the USA either. When the Persians were western / sophisticated they loved Israel and same the other way. Only when the Persians got hijacked by the Islamics cult did they turn on Israel and the USA.

a reply to: ufoorbhunter

No arguments here mate , I'm not hating on the Islamic religion but it is shall we say mis-guided as is Christianity though Beauty and goodness can be had from either religion .

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow
a reply to: ufoorbhunter

No arguments here mate , I'm not hating on the Islamic religion but it is shall we say mis-guided as is Christianity though Beauty and goodness can be had from either religion .

Too right mate so much good from the book but so twisted by politics