Net help with flat earth model. Why we cannot take a hot air ballon to the moon.

If there is no vacuum of space, but a firmament? Why does the density of the atmosphere approach zero as one gains altitude.

Why not just simply take a hot air ballon to the moon to prove the heliocentric model wrong?

a reply to: neutronflux

I always thought "flat earth" was a misnomer.

To us, stuff is in 3D. But what about something in a "higher dimension"?

Similar to how drawing on paper is 2D from our perspective.

So it could be spherical from our perspective but not to others.

a reply to: neutronflux

I think Abbot and Costello tried this in the 20’s.
They made it and had a good time.
But the episode has been scrubbed.
Good luck finding it now.

Yeah, good idea. Let's just do that. Seriously: it would be nice if some flat earther would do so.
Just tell m not to look back at earth. It would be to confrontational for them.

originally posted by: neutronflux
If there is no vacuum of space, but a firmament? Why does the density of the atmosphere approach zero as one gains altitude.

Why not just simply take a hot air ballon to the moon to prove the heliocentric model wrong?

Before a hot air balloon, first go try and find the edge of the world

originally posted by: SuicideKing33
a reply to: neutronflux

I always thought "flat earth" was a misnomer.

To us, stuff is in 3D. But what about something in a "higher dimension"?

Similar to how drawing on paper is 2D from our perspective.

So it could be spherical from our perspective but not to others.

Drawing on paper IS 2D
Now matter who or what or where the observer is.

I guess the number one clue of a spherical planet is the Apparent sun action as one moves from the lower climes to the north......the sun does a trick that is telling....

And can only be the round planet scenario.......

Compared to the Texas sun track across the sky.....in Idaho the sun comes up way to the North.....goes along ok till it turns a 90 degree turn at noon.......going on its way to set in the North after turning that corner at lunch

Bugs ya for a while trying to do dead reckoning........

Scripture tells of a glasslike firmament above us......true.....but.....In Seattle, it gets dark by midnight in the summer.....then twilight starts at 3 am......and lasts for 3 hours before the sun popsa reply to: GBP/JPY

a reply to: Gothmog

Not if you draw a line on a mobius strip.

originally posted by: neutronflux
If there is no vacuum of space, but a firmament? Why does the density of the atmosphere approach zero as one gains altitude.

Why not just simply take a hot air ballon to the moon to prove the heliocentric model wrong?

Assuming you're not trolling, I have a quesion.

How is it possible to be so air-headed and so dense at the same time?
For those of you who missed it, there are two on-topic puns in that line.

1) Hot air balloons require air. There is no air outside of the atmosphere. Ever seen a hot air balloon? they're not sealed.

2) Say you did seal one- now you've essentially got a weather balloon.
Ever seen a weather balloon?

They launch nearly empty.
www.nasa.gov...

Since they're sealed, as they move up in the atmosphere there's less air, and therefore less density pushing back- so the (helium?) in the balloon expands out, attempting to dissipate to the local density. Because its in a sealed balloon, though, it just inflates.
As they move further up, they inflate more and more until the sealed bag can no longer contain the pressure created by the fixed amount of (helium?) in the bag, and it bursts.

So, that's why you can't take a balloon to the moon.

Even if you could make one that wouldn't burst once it left the atmosphere, it would simply float on top of the atmosphere like a drop of oil on water- gravity is still pulling it towards the earth, but its density is less than the atmosphere so it would just sort of... hang out.

This science is literally hundreds of years old, what are they even teaching in school these days? This stuff is basic logic, here.


ETA:
I think I might have mis-read the OP in a blind rage, but I feel like my post was well thought out enough to keep, even if it agrees with OP

a reply to: Gothmog

No it isn't.

I don't understand why we can't to a go fund me or something, to send these idiots up there with gopro's on live stream, with their own cameras too.
They way the can stop taking up pointless Internet space.

These numpties openly deny logic and geometry, I mean what do they offer to society??🙄

originally posted by: FinallyAwake
I don't understand why we can't to a go fund me or something, to send these idiots up there with gopro's on live stream, with their own cameras too.
They way the can stop taking up pointless Internet space.

These numpties openly deny logic and geometry, I mean what do they offer to society??🙄

originally posted by: GBP/JPY
Scripture tells of a glasslike firmament above us......true.....but.....In Seattle, it gets dark by midnight in the summer.....then twilight starts at 3 am......and lasts for 3 hours before the sun pops

No. At the Summer Solstice it gets completely dark in Seattle by 10:00 pm and gets light about 4:30 am. The official sunrise is at 5:11 am and the official sunset is at 9:11 pm. That's just shy of a 16 hour day.

This thread is a good reason why ATS must die.

a reply to: lordcomac

Really?

Read the “turbo” logic at:
The flat earth conspiracy
www.abovetopsecret.com...

And yes. I am wanting to see who will argue what.

originally posted by: TheConstruKctionofLight
a reply to: Gothmog

Not if you draw a line on a mobius strip.

No one mentioned a line on a Mobius strip.
Yet , that would still be 2D

originally posted by: CharlesT
a reply to: Gothmog

No it isn't.

Wow , how informative .

a reply to: Gothmog

The line drawn is to get the head around the fact that it's 3D

Edit hang on I think i got this wrong

a reply to: schuyler

This thread is a good reason why ATS must die.

If you have such an issue with ats, you could just log out and not deal with it anymore....but of course, thats too easy.

Moe hammad did it on a flying horse...

Balloons for weirdos.