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Black Lives Matter In Public Schools Is Turning Kids Into Little Marxists

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posted on Jul, 13 2020 @ 12:56 PM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Sorry, but you can't just throw out boogieman terms like "Marxism" without showing some understanding of the concept and showing your work. So... please explain, exactly, which tenets of Marxism are being taught. And if you can do that, then show how that is an attempt to institute a generation that embraces "Marxist ideals". Otherwise, this is just another right wing fear-rant that is scared of addressing the racial inequality that the USA was built upon, and is long since behind on taking steps to change.



posted on Jul, 13 2020 @ 01:31 PM
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a reply to: Edumakated

Well, I'm a bit of a contrarian. I was looking at Instagram BLM accounts during the initial rioting's and some had nothing but peaceful protests but I caught one that posted about protesting with an image of burning buildings above.

I think the issue is complex and outright condemning BLM is ignoring the good part of the movement which is about equality and police brutality.

That is what most people are supporting BLM for. Not the various group heads, but the overall general massage.

I don't believe that we should just ignore the protestors because some BLM group leaders aren't against rioting or preaching communistic ideas.

And like it or not, BLM is a HUGE movement worldwide. It's much more complex than the agendas of some BLM leaders. For example, in Kenya, people are using the BLM to protest against police brutality.

So it's not even just a race thing. It's a big movement that is going to be apart of history. Kids should be learning about it.



posted on Jul, 13 2020 @ 01:58 PM
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a reply to: blueman12

Absolutely agree. Ignoring BLM isn't going to make it go away. I think an education from a third-party source in a classroom setting would be extremely beneficial to children who otherwise are only being exposed to their parents' viewpoints on the subject.

So many are quick to dismiss this outright dud to BLM's alleged Marxist ideology. As if every single one of the millions upon millions of the movement's supporters are Marxists. As if the BLM movement is being defined solely by the left, and the millions of opponents on the right have no say.

You know, even if the Marxism angle were valid, I have no problem with it. Hot take: Marxism should be taught in schools free from the McCarthyist, red scare cloud that has surrounded the subject in years past. The Communist Manifesto should be required reading for American high school students.



posted on Jul, 13 2020 @ 02:09 PM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Too many people immediately run to defend communism and Marxism.

Perhaps, instead of calling it Marxism, we could just say, anti-freedom, totalitarianism, dystopian nightmare, anti-Constitution, ant-American.

Nowhere have I heard BLM or their adherents talk of individualism, freedom, free expression, except to attack it, censor it, and infringe upon the rights of others.



posted on Jul, 13 2020 @ 02:58 PM
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a reply to: bigsnowman

If only it were just the Marxist aspect of BLM!!!
The socialist corruption in the teachers union is far more an issue.



posted on Jul, 13 2020 @ 03:19 PM
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a reply to: DontTreadOnMe

My reasoning behind my claim is that our educational system is very black and white with it's teaching of communism. The problem has never been with communism itself, but corruption, and the fact that communism is arguably the form of government most susceptible to corruption. I believe it would be beneficial to have kids read Marx's own words and then communicate why there has never been a successful communist country that wasn't an authoritarian ####hole.

Think of the way kids have been taught about drugs since the 80's. It was always black-and-white, just-say-no garbage that put all drugs on the same level so that marijuana was 'just as bad' as heroin. The kids grow up and realize that no, weed isn't even close to being as bad as heroin, and start wondering how else their educational system lied to them.

Maybe it's a garbage analogy but, from my experience, the way communism is taught isn't much different. They rally on-an-on about the horrors of the Soviet Union and how communism is pure, untainted evil. At the same time, they recite the pledge of allegiance every single morning and are a fed an idealistic history of our country and taught that they should be proud to be an American and they should be grateful to live in the best country on earth.

Do you see the problem with this? The United States of America is a country where the CIA and NSA are freely allowed to spy on you, but they don't tell the kids that when they learn about the Constitution. They don't learn about how Smith-Mundt was repealed and our government is allowed to disperse propaganda on American citizens. They don't teach kids that the Gulf of Tonkin was a false-flag executed to start a fraudulent war. They don't teach kids that the CIA has a Hollywood liaison who has a hand in the movies they watch. They don't teach kids that the MSM lies to the public on daily basis and gets away with it.

My point here is, kids grow up and realize that everything they were taught about their own country was garbage, and start questioning what they were taught about other government systems. "Why were they so opposed to Communism while shoving domestic propaganda down my throat?" they wonder. I think the best route would be to cover communism in depth, beginning with a thorough reading of the Communist Manifesto and an explanation of government corruption and why communism is so much more susceptible to it than other forms of government.

Second, we need to stop pretending that the American system is perfectly flawless and free of corruption. It's obviously not the case.

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posted on Jul, 13 2020 @ 03:38 PM
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a reply to: bigsnowman

This is what I am talking about:
sonorannews.com...
townhall.com...



posted on Jul, 13 2020 @ 03:47 PM
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It is damn high time to strip public school curriculum back down to the absolute basics, of at least the standard benchmarks for each grade, from now on.

-- Reading skills and comprehension.

-- Penmanship, spelling and punctuation.

-- Mathematics.

-- Basic earth sciences and basic chemistry.

-- But add in Civics. We need Civics back in schools, entirely too many people have no clue what they flap their gums about politically anymore, whatever people are being taught & by whom, it's woefully lacking. I don't peg the value of one's opinion to be very high when they can't even figure out freedom of speech means free from government interference, not meaning free from interference from a private citizen.

Everything else should be offered as electives, even National or World History. I'd imagine plenty of people would sign their kids up, though.
I bet once parents have to build their kids' electives curriculum and make calls on what is ACTUALLY important to teach & build a lifelong foundation to be a functional person with, that the knuckle-dragger virtue signalling crap dies swiftly.
edit on 7/13/2020 by Nyiah because: lol, distracted enough to list a redunancy in there without picking up on it. Fixed.



posted on Jul, 13 2020 @ 04:11 PM
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a reply to: DontTreadOnMe

Thank you, I greatly appreciate the articles you linked and the perspective I gained from it. I understand the fear, but feel it may be slightly overblown. Socialism & Capitalism are not wholly incompatible with each other. The United States has been, at least to an extent, a socialist country since at least FDR's administration, with some aspects dating back to the presidency of Theodore Roosevelt. Medicare, EBT, disability, agricultural subsidies are all examples of Socialist programs that exist in American culture with widespread bipartisan support. Perhaps conservatives are quicker to point out the potential for abuse, but even the GOP tends to push for increased vetting in regards to financial aid instead of proposing the abolition of these programs altogether. Renowned socialist Upton Sinclair's The Jungle was an instrumental factor in the creation of the FDA. I believe it would be disingenuous to teach kids "the evils" of Socialism when so many Americans currently benefit from Socialist programs.

Pros and cons to everything, capitalism included. Like I said, post-1900 USA is evidence that Socialism and Capitalism aren't completely incompatible. Maybe education these days tends to be too anti-capitalist, but I do know the music & media the kids follow most is extremely materialistic and all about 'the hustle' and 'making money'. Hip-Hop is the new-age rock 'n' roll; it is the genre of the new generation with lyrics that emphasize how important it is to have name-brand shoes, designer clothing, a big presidential Rolex and only the finest of foreign cars. Aren't many songs like John Lennon's Imagine topping the charts these days. Not to mention the multi-millionaire athletes kids idolize while their parents drop $200 on an official Nike jersey. Even if our educational system was completely 100% pro-socialism, anti-capitalism(which I doubt) there is enough opposition in most kids daily out-of-the-classroom experiences to balance it out.

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posted on Jul, 13 2020 @ 06:44 PM
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When the workers are all laid off and the stock market keeps funneling wealth into the top 1 percent of the population, Marxism/Communism starts to look pretty good.



posted on Jul, 13 2020 @ 06:48 PM
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originally posted by: bigsnowman
a reply to: DontTreadOnMe

Thank you, I greatly appreciate the articles you linked and the perspective I gained from it. I understand the fear, but feel it may be slightly overblown. Socialism & Capitalism are not wholly incompatible with each other. The United States has been, at least to an extent, a socialist country since at least FDR's administration, with some aspects dating back to the presidency of Theodore Roosevelt. Medicare, EBT, disability, agricultural subsidies are all examples of Socialist programs that exist in American culture with widespread bipartisan support. Perhaps conservatives are quicker to point out the potential for abuse, but even the GOP tends to push for increased vetting in regards to financial aid instead of proposing the abolition of these programs altogether. Renowned socialist Upton Sinclair's The Jungle was an instrumental factor in the creation of the FDA. I believe it would be disingenuous to teach kids "the evils" of Socialism when so many Americans currently benefit from Socialist programs.

Pros and cons to everything, capitalism included. Like I said, post-1900 USA is evidence that Socialism and Capitalism aren't completely incompatible. Maybe education these days tends to be too anti-capitalist, but I do know the music & media the kids follow most is extremely materialistic and all about 'the hustle' and 'making money'. Hip-Hop is the new-age rock 'n' roll; it is the genre of the new generation with lyrics that emphasize how important it is to have name-brand shoes, designer clothing, a big presidential Rolex and only the finest of foreign cars. Aren't many songs like John Lennon's Imagine topping the charts these days. Not to mention the multi-millionaire athletes kids idolize while their parents drop $200 on an official Nike jersey. Even if our educational system was completely 100% pro-socialism, anti-capitalism(which I doubt) there is enough opposition in most kids daily out-of-the-classroom experiences to balance it out.


Many would argue that those socialist programs are responsible for the situation we are in now.... they do more harm than good.

Welfare is largely responsible for the destruction of the black family which has led to the cultural dysfunction of the black underclass that has become normalized.



posted on Jul, 13 2020 @ 07:41 PM
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Marxism will tax everybody equally until there's nothing left for anybody else 🤓🦇



posted on Jul, 13 2020 @ 08:03 PM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Wow! This is so familiar where did I read about recruiting youth into, this type of situation. Oh yeah! World War 2. Democrats are truly showing who they really are. This doesn't surprise me one bit.



posted on Jul, 13 2020 @ 08:07 PM
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originally posted by: Psilocyborg

originally posted by: DontTreadOnMe
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Parents need to get more involved in what their kids are being tau, while they still can.



Alot of parents are on auto pilot.

Send the kids to school, feed em fast food and set them in front of a screen when they're at home.

If parents have an issue with what their kids are being taught in schools pull them out or at least ask them "What did you learn in school today?"

If you don't like what your child is becoming, that's the parents fault for not taking personal responsibility and putting in the work.


Oh I totally agree with you! I am seriously thinking about homeschooling my 8 year old. Not because if this but also because of the virus. She's in speech therapy at school, you can't teach speech therapy with a mask on. Worst case, we'll hire a speech therapist, to come to our home, if that will help her out.



posted on Jul, 15 2020 @ 04:02 AM
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originally posted by: Specimen88
Just tell them, when Marixsm an communism take over no more video games, name brand clothes, or X-mas gifts cause it capitalist.

Good news is they will be able to start work in the coal mines right away cause 1 plus 1 is sexist an homophobic, yelling "if Stalin only knew."


Yeah, I find it ironic how many socialists and communists play video games which revolve around Capitalism... It's like...you do know you are playing a Capitalist game right?...




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