Landmark Supreme Court Ruling Affirms Native American Rights in Oklahoma

The 5-to-4 decision, potentially one of the most consequential legal victories for Native Americans in decades, could have far-reaching implications for the people who live across what the court affirmed was Indian Country. The lands include much of Tulsa, Oklahoma’s second-biggest city.

The case was steeped in the United States government’s long history of brutal removals and broken treaties with Indigenous tribes, and grappled with whether lands of the Muscogee (Creek) Nation had remained a reservation after Oklahoma became a state.

The decision puts in doubt hundreds of state convictions of Native Americans and could change the handling of prosecutions across a vast swath of the state. Lawyers were also examining whether it had broader implications for taxing, zoning and other government functions. But many of the specific impacts will be determined by negotiations between state and federal authorities and five Native American tribes in Oklahoma.

Landmark Supreme Court Ruling Affirms Native American Rights in Oklahoma

So the US just lost half of Oklahoma? Not really sure at this point. The ruling is based on some paperwork not being done correctly back in the day if I’m understanding this right. What will this mean for the Oklahoma residents? Where will their taxes go? Whose laws will they have to follow?
A spokesperson for the Creek nation said no land has exchanged hands this only means that the criminals will be handled by them, and not the state or feds.
Read for yourself and decide. I’m just posting because no one else has yet and it’s been almost a whole day.

a reply to: Guiltyguitarist
I thought the Indians owned America, because they were here first. The U.S. Government is in no position to give them what they already rightfully own.

a reply to: Guiltyguitarist

What are they going to do release all the inmates? Does this land become the Native nation? Since the nation is sovereign will they need passport to enter the rest of the country? Will east OK become the casino capital of the US no tax on tobacco. Will they need to fence it all in with check points? Lots of possibilities an questions to be answered. Will this decision be used to influence the dispute over mount Rushmore be be given back as a back door for destruction?

a reply to: PhilbertDezineck

The only thing I know for sure is it won’t end here.

Congrats to the natives. They have now been given judicial power (but nothing more) to a large area of land.
I'm not sure they want this gift.

originally posted by: PhilbertDezineck
a reply to: Guiltyguitarist

What are they going to do release all the inmates? Does this land become the Native nation? Since the nation is sovereign will they need passport to enter the rest of the country? Will east OK become the casino capital of the US no tax on tobacco. Will they need to fence it all in with check points? Lots of possibilities an questions to be answered. Will this decision be used to influence the dispute over mount Rushmore be be given back as a back door for destruction?

Maybe if we proactively give them San Francisco they won’t ask for anymore, couldn’t hurt to try.

originally posted by: Guiltyguitarist
a reply to: PhilbertDezineck

The only thing I know for sure is it won’t end here.

It shouldnt end here.This is a begining not an end.

a reply to: randomtangentsrme

I’m sure they’ll get the taxes too

a reply to: one4all

Be careful what you ask for. The people of East Oklahoma were just conquered. Let’s hope their new masters are benevolent

originally posted by: Guiltyguitarist
a reply to: one4all

Be careful what you ask for. The people of East Oklahoma were just conquered. Let’s hope their new masters are benevolent

Conquered by whom exactly?

a reply to: Allaroundyou

The people who tax and arrest them now...the Muscogee.

a reply to: Guiltyguitarist

Not ifb there is a mass exodus out of east Ok, why pay taxes if you have no representation. Which part of OK has the most oil? Will they lose oil royalties from oil in west OK?

a reply to: PhilbertDezineck

You’re asking smarter questions than me. That’s why I shared this.

All this did was affirm that the Native American , up for trial , could not be tried in a local or state court.
It has to be a tribal court or a federal court.
Nothing new at all , SCOTUS just confirming the law already in place.
Media is yanking folks around .
Cause Trump.

a reply to: Gothmog

I think it applies to everyone there, not just native americans

originally posted by: Guiltyguitarist
a reply to: Gothmog

I think it applies to everyone there, not just native americans

No.
The state was attempting to try a Native American.
They cannot do that , as reservations are Federal property and an exception.
At least that is what I have read.
My disclaimer .

ETA :
The REAL STORY , and not made up shi_

Supreme Court rules swath of eastern Oklahoma remains tribal reservation

originally posted by: Gothmog

Cause Trump.

Full blown TDS in action.

originally posted by: Gothmog

originally posted by: Guiltyguitarist
a reply to: Gothmog

I think it applies to everyone there, not just native americans

No.
The state was attempting to try a Native American.
They cannot do that , as reservations are Federal property and an exception.
At least that is what I have read.
My disclaimer .

ETA :
The REAL STORY , and not made up shi_

Supreme Court rules swath of eastern Oklahoma remains tribal reservation

I have seen a situation where a tribal member crashes his car driving drunk with bodily harm. Gets arrested by local pd put in the drunk tank. Usually when they sober up they will ask to be released to tribal police. Who of course have no jurisdiction to prosecute a Dui off the res. So if the local pd complies the guy gets away with it. I wonder what would happen to me if I broke the law on the res. They sure as hell wouldn't turn me over to the local pd. And would laugh at me if I told them to turn me over to my people I don't follow your tribal laws.

Its basically a get out of jail free card for minor crimes. The feds aren't going to prosecute a dui.

a reply to: one4all

Thanks for that Mr. 4all. A sweeping comment in all it's connotations.

I wish the U.S. government would give more land back to native tribes in the future.

If America had more Native American culture introduced into everyday society, this country would be more self sufficient and better off.

Respect for the land, not being so wasteful and a reconnection to nature.