Is tearing down statues the modern equivalent of the Nazi book burnings?

What does tearing down statues reveal about todays revolutionary movements?

Is tearing down statues an attempt to erase history and rewrite it from the perspective of the victims? And if so, how does it differ from 1930´s Nazi book burnings where books where ceremonially burned - books targeted for burning were those viewed as being subversive or as representing ideologies opposed to Nazism.

Is the left-side political movement repeating mistakes from earlier revolutionary movements by attempting to erase historic ideologies opposed to their own?

-MM

a reply to: MerkabaMeditation

Is tearing down statues an attempt to erase history and rewrite it from the perspective of the victims?

Erase what history? It's countlessly documented that the Confederacy consisted of bunch of government traitorous scum who nearly prevented the forthcoming of the greatest country this planet has ever seen, the United States of America. Why are we glorifying these people? If they had their way, we America as it is today wouldn't be here. We'd be on the sidelines of global events. So these confederate statues do nothing more than glorifying treason. Plain and simple. Nothing compared to the Nazi book burning. Apples and oranges.

a reply to: MerkabaMeditation

No. Not the same.
One chooses to read a book.

But vandalism is not the way.

a reply to: MerkabaMeditation

The phrase "history repeats itself" is propaganda and defeatist. If anyone tells you "history repeats itself" or "it's always been this way" or "we'll never know" or "you can't have the sweet without the sour" or "no pain no gain", etc, is a control mechanism only being used to help continue the lie of our reality; only being used to help continue the false creation of ups and downs in order to create drama, stories, entertainment.

The only reason this abomination of a reality is the way it is is because someone (someones), somewhere...want entertainment and drama. The only way to create drama is to create tension between 2 or more sides, which ends up creating the entertainment/drama necessary to fulfill this need.

a reply to: MerkabaMeditation

Wanna learn something today?

You've probably been taught your entire life that the Nazi's were burning history books and things of that nature.

They weren't.

They were burning pornographic and sexually deviant material that was infesting the streets of Berlin in the 1930's. These were books that were advocating transgenderism and the normalization of pedophilia. I support that. And it took a good 7 decades or so for the the same people to get those books back into "intellectual" circles.

a reply to: AgarthaSeed

They were burning pornographic and sexually deviant material that was infesting the streets of Berlin in the 1930's.

So the Nazis were just protecting their people, their culture by doing that act?

originally posted by: Southern Guardian
a reply to: AgarthaSeed

They were burning pornographic and sexually deviant material that was infesting the streets of Berlin in the 1930's.

So the Nazis were just protecting their people, their culture by doing that act?

Absolutely. Unless you prefer pedophilia being normalized amongst your society and education system, you would agree as well.

Buttttt I know you're trying the old "he's agreeing with Nazis" game. Get a new playbook. It's tired and old.

Books that the Nazis burned

A Farewell to Arms' by Ernest Hemingway.
All Quiet on the Western Front' by Erich Maria Remarque
The Time Machine' by H.G. Wells
The Metamorphosis
War of the Worlds' by H.G. Wells

To name a few.

a reply to: AgarthaSeed

I don't think those who seek pornography of any sort have much to do with "normalization."

But no, a statue is not the same as a book.

a reply to: AgarthaSeed

Buttttt I know you're trying the old "he's agreeing with Nazis" game.

It also depends on what you disagree with them on.

Some people disagree with the way the Nazi's went about the war, but not necessarily what their ultimate goals or intentions were.

originally posted by: MerkabaMeditation
What does tearing down statues reveal about todays revolutionary movements?

Is tearing down statues an attempt to erase history and rewrite it from the perspective of the victims? And if so, how does it differ from 1930´s Nazi book burnings where books where ceremonially burned - books targeted for burning were those viewed as being subversive or as representing ideologies opposed to Nazism.

Is the left-side political movement repeating mistakes from earlier revolutionary movements by attempting to erase historic ideologies opposed to their own?

-MM

Short answer; yes.

Long answer; yes.

originally posted by: AgarthaSeed
a reply to: MerkabaMeditation

Wanna learn something today?

You've probably been taught your entire life that the Nazi's were burning history books and things of that nature.

They weren't.

They were burning pornographic and sexually deviant material that was infesting the streets of Berlin in the 1930's. These were books that were advocating transgenderism and the normalization of pedophilia. I support that. And it took a good 7 decades or so for the the same people to get those books back into "intellectual" circles.

I got the balls to admit I didn't know that.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: MerkabaMeditation

No. Not the same.
One chooses to read a book.

But vandalism is not the way.

I agree vandalism is not the way.

But, has anything else worked?

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: AgarthaSeed

I don't think those who seek pornography of any sort have much to do with "normalization."

But no, a statue is not the same as a book.

I said normalization of pedophilia, not pornography.

a reply to: AgarthaSeed

Just no. That was not true. Someone needs to go back to the history books.

a reply to: AgarthaSeed

And you were referring to this:

They were burning pornographic and sexually deviant material that was infesting the streets of Berlin in the 1930's.

Weren't you?

originally posted by: Southern Guardian
a reply to: MerkabaMeditation

Is tearing down statues an attempt to erase history and rewrite it from the perspective of the victims?

Erase what history? It's countlessly documented that the Confederacy consisted of bunch of government traitorous scum who nearly prevented the forthcoming of the greatest country this planet has ever seen, the United States of America. Why are we glorifying these people? If they had their way, we America as it is today wouldn't be here. We'd be on the sidelines of global events. So these confederate statues do nothing more than glorifying treason. Plain and simple. Nothing compared to the Nazi book burning. Apples and oranges.

And what part did elks play in the civil war?

They can have the statues. Doesn't change black communities are getting worse and businesses of any real value won't go there. Look at them, getting behind a man who voted for a crime bill the incarcerated 10's of thousands of them for minor offenses. They deserve each other.

No, but the confederate battle flag has been desecrated by white supremacist not unlike the swastika was perverted by Nazis


The generation that fought under the flag have long since passed, the generation who wave it today only know it as Strom Thurmond and the Dixiecrats revived it

Those statues were put up to coax minorities into submission through a form of passive manipulation.

I recognize that most readers in your party lack comprehension so I'll not cling to the fantasy that you might understand the importance of context

a reply to: FlyinHeadlock

Yup, just proves, how uneducated and lack of understanding how politics work. As far as I can tell, tearing down statues, because the mob, feels is wrong is an act of violence. In addition why wait until now?

Don’t get me started, on the current, current events in the divided states of America..