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Russian bounty should receive the same “retaliation” as the Iranian bounty on US president?

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posted on Jul, 5 2020 @ 11:58 AM
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An Iranian lawmaker is offering $3 million to 'whoever kills Trump'


www.businessinsider.com...



I seriously doubt the raw intelligence on Russian bounties are the only intel of bounties floating about against US citizens.

And it is part of history that Ahmad Hamzeh did call for a bounty on Trump.

I tried to find the outrage by Pelosi and the Democrats in regards of the Iranian bounty on Trump, with calls for retaliation. Really didn’t find much?

While the Russian thing comes down to this,

If true, was there any appreciable increase in threat levels missed by actual threat level assessments issued to troops in the areas affected. Did the threat level actually change overtime? Or was it consistent, with no actual impact of the allegations of a bounty.

What policy changes should have occurred. Especially in the context of known bounties put on US citizens in the past?
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posted on Jul, 5 2020 @ 12:12 PM
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These "bounties" may all be planted BS because the NWO-Globalists/American-Democrat Alliance is trying so desperately to get Trump voted out, they are using "any means necessary" which means ANYTHING and EVERYTHING. All tricks and sacrifices are fair game to these power mongers 🥶🥴🥶



posted on Jul, 5 2020 @ 12:51 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen
These "bounties" may all be planted BS because the NWO-Globalists/American-Democrat Alliance is trying so desperately to get Trump voted out, they are using "any means necessary" which means ANYTHING and EVERYTHING. All tricks and sacrifices are fair game to these power mongers 🥶🥴🥶


"May all be"? The best you have is just speculation?

Really, if the Democrats were as nasty as you believe, surely they'd simply have Trump assassinated and problem solved.

But they aren't like that. They are reasonable people who are concerned about the damage that this rogue is doing, and the dangers he posed to the country from day one of his Presidency.

The US has a very major crisis brought upon it by the Coronavirus. It is also undergoing major social upheaval. The economy is tanking. Trump stripped out all the funding that was there for contingency (he funneled some of that into his so-far useless wall) and then a natural disaster hit. His response was to further cut funding to contingency agencies.

Trump is also the major contributor to the division of America, ideologically. He doesn't unite the United States.

Trump is doing very little in several situations of national emergency. He is a bad President. He is ineffective. He isn't doing the job of defending the People and Constitutional US from all threats domestic and foreign.

The general public couldn't see what was going on in those early days, but Congress could and they wanted him gone. If you were a patriotic American, you would want him gone, too.

Now, look at what he has actually wrought.



posted on Jul, 5 2020 @ 12:56 PM
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a reply to: chr0naut

Ok,

Have anything in regards to the opening post?

I tried to find the outrage by Pelosi and the Democrats in regards of the Iranian bounty on Trump, with calls for retaliation. Really didn’t find much?

While the Russian thing comes down to this,

If true, was there any appreciable increase in threat levels missed by actual threat level assessments issued to troops in the areas affected. Did the threat level actually change overtime? Or was it consistent, with no actual impact of the allegations of a bounty.

What policy changes should have occurred. Especially in the context of known bounties put on US citizens in the past?

———
You


They are reasonable people who are concerned about the damage


Like other countries place bounties on the US president.

Your rant seems more like political propaganda than actual concern for policy changes regarding bounties on US citizens.
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posted on Jul, 5 2020 @ 12:57 PM
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a reply to: chr0naut

Should Russia be labeled a state sponsor of terror for example?



posted on Jul, 5 2020 @ 01:53 PM
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a reply to: neutronflux

Didn't we kill one of their leaders in the 50's and set up the puppet leader? How many people has the US killed over the years.



posted on Jul, 5 2020 @ 01:55 PM
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originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: chr0naut

Should Russia be labeled a state sponsor of terror for example?


Yes, for the Skripal poisonings alone, it qualifies.

So should the Saudi's for Kashoggi's killing.

So should America, for its history drone strikes, assassinations and military actions into many other nations.



posted on Jul, 5 2020 @ 02:00 PM
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originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: chr0naut

Should Russia be labeled a state sponsor of terror for example?


Should the USA be labeled a state sponsor since we have kill and toppled duly elected officials threw out the history?



posted on Jul, 5 2020 @ 02:00 PM
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originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: chr0naut

Ok,

Have anything in regards to the opening post?

I tried to find the outrage by Pelosi and the Democrats in regards of the Iranian bounty on Trump, with calls for retaliation. Really didn’t find much?

While the Russian thing comes down to this,

If true, was there any appreciable increase in threat levels missed by actual threat level assessments issued to troops in the areas affected. Did the threat level actually change overtime? Or was it consistent, with no actual impact of the allegations of a bounty.

What policy changes should have occurred. Especially in the context of known bounties put on US citizens in the past?

———
You


They are reasonable people who are concerned about the damage


Like other countries place bounties on the US president.

Your rant seems more like political propaganda than actual concern for policy changes regarding bounties on US citizens.


Russia is already considered a belligerent military state.

There was definite Russian involvement in a number of assassinations in America, including President John F. Kennedy's.

And rhetoric does not equal action.



posted on Jul, 5 2020 @ 02:04 PM
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posted on Jul, 5 2020 @ 02:06 PM
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a reply to: chr0naut



Really, if the Democrats were as nasty as you believe, surely they'd simply have Trump assassinated and problem solved.

But they aren't like that. They are reasonable people who are concerned about the damage that this rogue is doing, and the dangers he posed to the country from day one of his Presidency.

.

You mean like the illegal drone strikes carried out by the Obama Administration?



So should America, for its history drone strikes,


I hope you were concerned with the drone strikes under the Democratic Leadership and Obama. I am sure you can link to your ATS posts that show such concern under the years of Obama?



Using drones to kill American citizens without trial, collecting the email and phone records of millions of Americans on a daily basis, and grabbing militants off of the streets of foreign cities and imprisoning them indefinitely — these are all powers that Obama has bequeathed to his successor.
www.vox.com...




Pakistani court rules CIA drone strikes are illegal
www.thebureauinvestigates.com...


It seems your concern, and the Democrats concern, is a political play, and not genie concern.



posted on Jul, 5 2020 @ 02:08 PM
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originally posted by: PhilbertDezineck

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: chr0naut

Should Russia be labeled a state sponsor of terror for example?


Should the USA be labeled a state sponsor since we have kill and toppled duly elected officials threw out the history?


Just while Trump is president, or including the Obama presidency too?



posted on Jul, 5 2020 @ 02:10 PM
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a reply to: chr0naut

Now. What should be done policy wise concerning the supposed Russian bounties, and what the USA has done historically concerning bounties places in US citizens?



posted on Jul, 5 2020 @ 02:12 PM
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a reply to: chr0naut

Go ahead and keep believing what ever your little heart desires.

But don't complain later when the NWO and American Democrats wreck everything like they've been trying so hard to do.

🤓🤣🤓



posted on Jul, 5 2020 @ 02:13 PM
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a reply to: neutronflux

Karma's a bitch it will come back and bite you. Obama tried to influence the Israelis ellections and we get bent out of shape when other countries do it to us.



posted on Jul, 5 2020 @ 02:14 PM
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originally posted by: PhilbertDezineck

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: chr0naut

Should Russia be labeled a state sponsor of terror for example?


Should the USA be labeled a state sponsor since we have kill and toppled duly elected officials threw out the history?


Better yet, here is the definition of “ State Sponsors of Terrorism”



Countries determined by the Secretary of State to have repeatedly provided support for acts of international terrorism are designated pursuant to three laws: section 6(j) of the Export Administration Act, section 40 of the Arms Export Control Act, and section 620A of the Foreign Assistance Act.

www.state.gov...



Care to explain how the USA fits into the cited criteria?
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posted on Jul, 5 2020 @ 02:18 PM
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originally posted by: PhilbertDezineck
a reply to: neutronflux

Karma's a bitch it will come back and bite you. Obama tried to influence the Israelis ellections and we get bent out of shape when other countries do it to us.



I am not bent out of shape. It’s part of the game. It just seems the Democrats did little to defend against it, but yell the loudest about it?

Again. It’s politics to them. Not out of real concern.



posted on Jul, 5 2020 @ 02:31 PM
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a reply to: neutronflux

If the CIA does it is it state sponsored? WE set up Bin Ladnn in the 80's to fight the Russian which had become the Taliban how has that worked out for us? These decisions don't happen in a vacuum. Because of a policy of plausible deniability it all happens with a wink, wink, nod, nod. Look at the Iran/ Contra situation.



posted on Jul, 5 2020 @ 02:54 PM
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originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: chr0naut


You mean like the illegal drone strikes carried out by the Obama Administration?


I don't think drone strikes are 'legal', no matter who does them. But, yes those done under Obama and under Trump.

Under Donald Trump, drone strikes far exceed Obama’s numbers - Chicago Sun-Times


I hope you were concerned with the drone strikes under the Democratic Leadership and Obama. I am sure you can link to your ATS posts that show such concern under the years of Obama?


Not quite at the time but I have posted about it, previously:

ATS thread 'Things Most People DO NOT KNOW about former President Barack Hussein Obama.'

ATS thread 'Expect More Of This'



Using drones to kill American citizens without trial, collecting the email and phone records of millions of Americans on a daily basis, and grabbing militants off of the streets of foreign cities and imprisoning them indefinitely — these are all powers that Obama has bequeathed to his successor.
www.vox.com...


I think that the implementer of drone strikes and NSA surveillance of the US public was George Bush.


Pakistani court rules CIA drone strikes are illegal
www.thebureauinvestigates.com...

It seems your concern, and the Democrats concern, is a political play, and not genie concern.


My concerns and motivations are quite separate to the Democratic Party's concerns.



posted on Jul, 5 2020 @ 02:58 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

Obama sent Iran $400 million dollars so they would not put a bounty on his head.



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