Couple Gets Doxxed for Defending Their Property

originally posted by: dawnstar
a reply to: matafuchs
They were walking by it.

On a private street, with signage stating as much, and No Trespassing signage posted.

This was not a public thoroughfare. We have a few private drives extended from the main road with several homes on them in my neighborhood, too. I neither live on them, nor have I been invited to any residence on them. Ergo, I would be TRESPASSING and like a rural or farm property, trespassers will be shot. This much is posted on those drives, they're not f#g around with Keep Out.

I'm not about to test their resolve. If a mentally deficient dolt feels like it, that's their prerogative, but it's a gamble with odds not in their favor. I support the resident, not the trespasser.

a reply to: StallionDuck

Could you provide the link about destroying the property and tearing down the statues at their house? Video shows them walking through the gate and urging protesters to keep walking and stop engaging while the couple was outside.

a reply to: Arizonaguy

you made it clear what is most important yo you

Yes. That is the safe handling of weapons ESPECIALLY in a frightening and unpredictable situation.

That fact has little bearing on the intent of the OP

I don't know.

If I had some untrained idiot with a gun flagging a crowd of people I was in I might be inclined to find out who they are.

originally posted by: BoscoMoney
a reply to: mamabeth

Since we''re now at the point of nitpicking and playing what coulda, what coulda happened if they didnt have guns but were out in front of their property voicing their opinions towards the mob in front of them? Something magical and wonderful I imagine? Disneyland good times?

We don't have to wonder
According to the story the couple, who are in their 60s, mind you, went outside unarmed at first and asked the mob to leave. It was only after being threatened with violence, and noticing that many in the mob were armed, that they went and retrieved weapons.

originally posted by: projectvxn
a reply to: Arizonaguy

They were in their own private domicile- bitch

Do not address me again.

Vxn, he's right. Skill or lack of it ASIDE, this was not a public property setting. The couple was in the right, not the crowd.

a reply to: projectvxn
Kind of funny
The quote came from Breaking Bad
The lead character was played by Bryan Cranston
He also starred in Malcolm in the Middle
The theme song for that series was...wait for it....
" You're not The Boss Of Me"
Amazing synchronicity

a reply to: BoscoMoney

Nah,I am just an old granny posting my opinion on
a conspiracy theory website,not nitpicking.
People don't seem to grasp the idea that these groups
are purposely provoking others' to react,it furthers
their goals.

Looked pretty peaceful except for a couple of morons waving guns around. Karen and some guy that holds it by the business end.

That home is an historical home. No secret who these people are. “Doxxing” lol. Exaggerate much?

They were headed somewhere else.
To the home of someone that publicly identified people that support police reform. The mayor of St. Louis!!

a reply to: Nyiah


Why is everyone itching to see people get blasted?

Is that what we all want? Blood in the streets?

How about some de-escalation tactics?

This situation could have blown up into a full-blown powderkeg incident.

All I see here is irresponsibility with a weapon.

I live in a private area. If a group of people came into my area I'd watch them and ONLY engage when there was a credible threat. Firing into a crowd over trespassing is NOT MORALLY OK NO MATTER WHO YOU ARE. So if THAT is the expectation of what SHOULD happen, then count me the # out.

I've actually been in firefights. I have this thing called tactical patience.

Because I understand that life is precious.

a reply to: mamabeth

You mean the mayor of St. Louis?

originally posted by: mamabeth
a reply to: BoscoMoney

Nah,I am just an old granny posting my opinion on
a conspiracy theory website,not nitpicking.
People don't seem to grasp the idea that these groups
are purposely provoking others' to react,it furthers
their goals.

Those "people" are going to be in for a real rude awakening when the general public has enough of their goading crap on private property and shoots 'em, legally.

originally posted by: spacedoubt
Looked pretty peaceful except for a couple of morons waving guns around. Karen and some guy that holds it by the business end.

That home is an historical home. No secret who these people are. “Doxxing” lol. Exaggerate much?

They were headed somewhere else.
To the home of someone that publicly identified people that support police reform. The mayor of St. Louis!!

After breaking through a barrier, clearly marked as private property and containing no trespassing signs. Yeah, B&E is peaceful now? Gee, and here I thought it was breaking the law.

a reply to: projectvxn

Now you're making a moral argument?
Whose set of morals do we get to use?
Shall we all live by your set?
Or mine?
Or some Buddhist?
Or Charlie Manson's?
Wasn't it that braniac AOC who stated that its better to be morally right than factually correct?
Congrats.. you're in the Squad territory now

a reply to: projectvxn

Why?
Because I don't resort to emotional arguments and ad hominem attacks in this thread like you do?
Fact- the couple tried to peacefully resolve the situation
Fact- they were threatened with violence by people with weapons
Fact- they retrieved their own weapons to defend themselves and their property
Everything else is an emotional argument born of opinion
I'm sorry if this upsets you
Deal with it

originally posted by: frogs453
a reply to: StallionDuck

Could you provide the link about destroying the property and tearing down the statues at their house? Video shows them walking through the gate and urging protesters to keep walking and stop engaging while the couple was outside.

Unfortunately Yahoo deleted it and has since updated their article. I know they did because I commented on it and oddly enough, my comments are now attached to a thread I did NOT see at all from the huffington post.

The previous article mentioned a "Large Assault Rifle", when it's neither large nor an assault rifle. I laughed at this when I read the original.

It also mentioned that the protesters busted through a gate leading to their private property to tare down statues on the property. The headline was something like "Lawyers defend statues from protesters on their property" or similar.

but hey... I did warn that yahoo was liberal.

This is what they replaced it with.

Source

They at least kept this part:

In remarks to local CBS station KMOV, the homeowner claimed that “a mob of at least 100 smashed through the historic wrought iron gates” of their private street, which were marked with “private street” and “no trespassing” signs, and put his family “in fear of our lives.” St. Louis Post-Dispatch reports that police are investigating the incident.

Still.. Lot of two face crits still running their babble and foaming at the mouth:

However, Circuit Attorney Kimberly Gardner issued a statement later Monday characterizing what happened differently and saying her office was working with police to investigate the confrontation.

“I am alarmed at the events that occurred over the weekend, where peaceful protesters were met by guns and a violent assault,” she said. “We must protect the right to peacefully protest, and any attempt to chill it through intimidation or threat of deadly force will not be tolerated.”

Though THIS source of the above quote didn't say crap about the trespassers carrying their own "Assault Rifles".

a reply to: projectvxn

The weapon of choice is neither here nor there. What I'm doing is assessing an incident where homeowners felt the need to use a show of force as a last resort to get the literal "Get off mah private lawn" message across when words failed -- they approached, and were threatened for it. Whelp, that didn't work, nice "de-escalation" wish there, because it isn't happening on protesters' parts.

IMO, if No Trespassing has zero bite to it for homeowners, you've neutered the entire point of the No Trespassing route to begin with. Frankly, it's a homeowner right I take very seriously and do everything within my power to NOT violate, and believe SHOULD evoke a twinge of fear for trespassers. I teach my kids this -- is it our yard? Were you invited? Did you ask for permission to be there? No on all accounts? Better hope they don't have a weapon and you have a running start. It's not ours, you had no right to traipse on in like it is.