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originally posted by: tanstaafl
originally posted by: dawnstar
a reply to: tanstaafl
But, you are saying that those with preexisting conditions and irrational fears can just stay at home,
Yes! You got it...
now you seem to be reducing that down to those that are truly at risk saying that they are such a small number they shouldnt be considered...
No, I'm saying they should have to take care of themselves, and not require everyone else - the other 99% of us - to wear masks just so they can feel better about going out and about.
And, may I ask just what you consider at risk?
Not my problem. I know my risk factors. It is for everyone else to know theirs.
Are you just including at risk of death? How about at risk of long term hospital care in an icu unit?
Kindof the same thing, no?
How about the risk of life long negative effects from getting the virus which seems to still be undetermined?
How about the risk of death from bathtub drowning?
How about the risk presented to all of us when hospital systems get overwhelmed and it starts affecting the quality of care they are able to provide?
Yeah, wake me up when that actually happens.
Or, just the God danged inconvenience to all of us when they end up shutting crap down because too many people and govt officials want to cling to their noncovid induced paranoid delusions and sabotage any and all measures that could possibly enable us to get enough control over the situation that we could return to a somewhat safe normal like most of the rest of the world seems to be enjoying?
There is still no scientific proof that masks will help with that situation.
And even if they do 'flatten the curve', all that does is spread it out and make it last longer. I'd prefer that we just rip the bandaid off and get it over with, thank you very much.
The freedom from being forced to wear face masks when there is no real science backing up their usefulness, and there is plenty of evidence that they are very unhealthy for the wearer (just buy an oxygen meter and see what happens to your blood oxygen levels after a few minutes of wearing one).
originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
a reply to: tanstaafl
Hmm... Lets Hear from an Expert then to Finally Settle this
originally posted by: carewemust
Friday, June 26, 2020
I don't know the political breakdown, but top health and political authorities in various states are mandating that masks be worn, even when the number of COVID-19 Hospitalizations and Deaths are declining. Here in Democrat-controlled Illinois, wearing a facemask is required, through all 4 phases of reopening the state.
Presidential Candidate Joe Biden said yesterday that we will probably have to wear masks for at least another year, as a "new normal", in order to protect ourselves and others.
All the emphasis and mandates regarding wearing a face-mask, comes from the same "people" who shut down the country over a virus that kills only 1.4% of the people who contract it.
Therefore, it's obvious that "caring about our well-being", is not why political/medical/media authorities want us to wear face-masks for at least another year.
After seeing a medical graphic earlier today showing how masks decrease O2 (Oxygen) levels, while simultaneously increasing CO2 (Carbon Dioxide) levels in the body, it occurred to me that wearing masks long-term, damages the brain....making us dumber and less resistant to orders from authority!
Sure enough, there has been quite a bit of research on the subject, due to so many complaints of mental and physiological problems from workers in careers where masks are worn a lot. (Medical, Painting, Construction, etc..)
Findings Summary from a Study on N-95 face masks:
Full Study: www.oatext.com...=0
The results show that above 60% of inspired air is respired air in case I (wearing a mask), compared to less than 1.2% in case II (not wearing a mask).
In conclusion, the N95 respirator trapped respired air within the respirator which increased the VOF of respired air during inspiration. This might be one of the major contributors to elevated carbon dioxide level while wearing N95 respirator.
MOST IMPORTANTLY...This study explains what happens to us after repeated stints of Carbon Dioxide(CO2)/less Oxygen(O2) Inhalation:
Full Analysis at: medium.com...
Participants were tested on their cognitive abilities each day at about 3 pm. They were given real life situations (an example of a situation: if you were to be the mayor of the town what changes would you bring to your town) and the answers were later analyzed using software. The nine parameters that the participants were tested were:
⢠The ability to make decisions at any given time
⢠The capability to make decisions that achieved the desired goal
⢠The capacity to pay attention to surroundings
⢠The capability of completing given tasks
⢠The capacity to respond to an emergency
⢠The ability to gather information
⢠The ability to use the gathered information for the given goals
⢠The capacity to make decisions using a variety of options along with multiple dimensions
⢠The capacity of complex thinking
The results of the study were amazing.
Participants experiencing the elevated CO2 levels were found to have significant difficulty with their decision making abilities and thinking capabilities.
So what is the reason behind the impairments of the cognitive ability?
Increased level of CO2 in the blood decreases the cerebral metabolism of oxygen. In simple words, the brain becomes oxygen deprived and has an impact on our thinking abilities.
Carbon dioxide dissolves in our blood and reacts with the water in our blood to create carbonic acid. This, in turn, dissolves into ions of hydrogen and bicarbonate. If there is an increase in the concentration of hydrogen ions in our blood the blood acidity level increases and creates electrolyte imbalance, causing decline in intellectual performance.
With increased CO2 levels, a decrease in the IQ by even 5 points will bring a lot more people into the âmentally handicappedâ range, unless corrective action is taken immediately.
Another tip-off that the "powers in charge" are working together to dumb us down, is how Google does not let you see the above articles unless you filter out (not show) any search results after 12/31/2019. All the articles/studies this year describe how great face masks are for us! No ill effects whatsoever.
Word to the wise...If there are rules/laws mandating face masks where you live, only wear it when necessary. Save those brain cells. Keep your independent critical-thinking abilities in tip-top shape! (We will need them if our leaders push things too far.)
-CareWeMust
originally posted by: av8r007
a reply to: Phage
When people say that... "Wear the fricken mask." or "Wear the damn mask." It makes me want to wear it even less -- it stirs in me a complete revulsion, my entire being contorts and refuses it from the bottom of my heart I will never submit to this, ever. I would rather die than live in fear this way. We did not break free from England, fight a revolution, defend ourselves in 1812, fight our own nation in the 1860s (for many causes), fight WWI/WWII, Korea, Vietnam, and the Gulf Wars to be muzzled like dogs, we are Americans and we have a right to choose how we take care of ourselves!