Wanted: Honest intelligent productive thinking to resolve the issue God exists or not.

a reply to: neutronflux

Which one will you?

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: neutronflux
God is the aware space in which everything appears.....including bodies and thoughts.

The same can be said about Santa Clause, a pixie, or a fairy.

a reply to: neutronflux

No, that's not true.

a reply to: neutronflux
Really??

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: neutronflux
I don't need to do an experiment....it is obvious.

The truth is hiding in plain sight.

Or you cannot think of an actual experiment to prove an invisible god exists. So you only have faith. Not evidence.

originally posted by: Out6of9Balance
a reply to: neutronflux

No, that's not true.

Where’s the evidence your god exists?

a reply to: neutronflux

Our faith is evidence.

originally posted by: Out6of9Balance
a reply to: neutronflux

Our faith is evidence.

People have faith there is no god. What now.

a reply to: neutronflux

I don't know what god you want us to prove so desperately but that one doesn't exist.

a reply to: neutronflux

That's not possible, that's not what faith is.

a reply to: neutronflux
No experiment is necessary.

Look directly at what is appearing now and then look for what is seeing.

Saint Francis of Assisi stated:
What we are looking for is what is looking.

originally posted by: Out6of9Balance
a reply to: neutronflux

That's not possible, that's not what faith is.

But people do have faith god doesn’t exist. Is that a false statement.

And people do have faith in evolution without god. Is that a false statement.

Kids believe in the tooth fairy. Have faith because their parents place money under their pillows. How is that any difference than believing in god when humans might just be a product of evolution. Or bioengineered by another race.

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: neutronflux
No experiment is necessary.

Look directly at what is appearing now and then look for what is seeing.

Saint Francis of Assisi stated:
What we are looking for is what is looking.

I can say the same about the Easter Bunny.

a reply to: neutronflux

I don't believe in the Easter Bunny.

a reply to: neutronflux

It's not possible to have faith in something that doesn't exist, believe it or not.

a reply to: neutronflux
What is aware of what is occuring (including thoughts and sensations)?

originally posted by: Out6of9Balance
a reply to: neutronflux

Our faith is evidence.

Faith is belief, not evidence. It's like when people claim that the bible is true by citing the bible. It's a circular argument.

a reply to: AngryCymraeg

It's an endless discusion like this.

Faith is evidence for the person having it and faith is only possible in existing things.

a reply to: neutronflux
Christ is the visible image......Christ is not a person.....Christ is the ever present visible image.

Only through Christ can the Father be found.

What is seeing the visible image?

God is all seeing.

Nothing can appear without seeingness.

Here is my favourite video just 2 mins long......it is all about observingness!

originally posted by: Out6of9Balance
a reply to: AngryCymraeg

It's an endless discusion like this.

Faith is evidence for the person having it and faith is only possible in existing things.

Yes, but by that same logic kids really do believe in the Tooth Fairy and Father Christmas, so therefore they have to be real as well. In addition there are millions of Hindus who believe in a pantheon of gods. You are saying that they are right as well, that their gods exist. What of Assur? The Hittite Storm God? Jupiter? Toutatis? The list is endless.
This is one of the reasons I have difficulty with religion - it calls up belief in something whilst denying other people their belief in their own god.