Wanted: Honest intelligent productive thinking to resolve the issue God exists or not.

a reply to: neutronflux
Isn't everything that is happening God's will?
Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven.
Thine will o lord... not mine.

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: neutronflux
Isn't everything that is happening God's will?
Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven.
Thine will o lord... not mine.

That people prove their hearts through free will. Where people can choose between God’s living water, or the evil one. Yes.

a reply to: Itisnowagain

The devil must be Gods will, or he would have defeated him already, but God wants people to do His will instead of that of the devil.

a reply to: neutronflux
Sorry I don't understand what you are saying yes to?

Is it yes...... everything that is occuring is God's will.

That the devil currently exists is God's will but what isn't God's will is the will of the devil.

People have been asking this for millenia. You won't find an answer on here

a reply to: Out6of9Balance
So tell me all about the devil...... what actually is the devil?

a reply to: Itisnowagain

The devil is a deceiving creation of God.

originally posted by: Out6of9Balance
a reply to: Itisnowagain

The devil is a deceiving creation of God.

Yes the whispering serpent...... thought.

When thinking is happening notice that it does not know.......it is deceptive.

Thought is known......what is it that even knows thought is occuring?

originally posted by: Itisnowagain

originally posted by: Out6of9Balance
a reply to: Itisnowagain

The devil is a deceiving creation of God.

Yes the whispering serpent...... thought.

When thinking is happening notice that it does not know.......it is deceptive.

Thought is known......what is it that even knows thought is occuring?

I thought the thought God knows all thoughts of every man.

originally posted by: Out6of9Balance

originally posted by: Itisnowagain

originally posted by: Out6of9Balance
a reply to: Itisnowagain

The devil is a deceiving creation of God.

Yes the whispering serpent...... thought.

When thinking is happening notice that it does not know.......it is deceptive.

Thought is known......what is it that even knows thought is occuring?

I thought the thought God knows all thoughts of every man.

Indeed......that is what is aware of all that appears.....including thought and sensation.

Nothing can appear outside of God.

God is all seeing and all knowing.

God is not some seeing and some knowing.........what is knowing these words on this screen?

a reply to: Itisnowagain

God did not create Himself, that's right.

originally posted by: Out6of9Balance
a reply to: Itisnowagain

God did not create Himself, that's right.

God is just another word for consciousness.

All there is is consciousness!

a reply to: Itisnowagain

What about the consciousness the devil?

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: neutronflux
Sorry I don't understand what you are saying yes to?

Is it yes...... everything that is occuring is God's will.

Then he is a cruel and viscious God. No God would "allow" this much suffering just to test people's faith in Him

Especially given that #Christianity claims to be a religion of Peace and Love

If God loved his people, why do so many people die such horrible deaths?

Also, if God was omnipotent, He could kill The Devil any time He lokes. But He chooses to allow him to live and cause suffering and pain ....

If he's not omnipotent, then he's not a God

Also, if God were omnipotent, then people would be born believing in Him unquestioningly. But they have to be taught about religion

Given that I can get accreditation to be a preacher from the internet for about $10 and a bit of printer ink, the idea of God seems ridiculous, at best.

a reply to: babybunnies

God is not only cruel, He can be good to.

A religion of peace and love requires a god that can be cruel.

a reply to: babybunnies

Christianity is a death cult that's why the believers worship a cruel and vicious God.

a reply to: Out6of9Balance
If you were to recognize that everything is happening just the way it is......regardless of what thought says.....then the mind would shut up.

When the chattering mind stops trying to figure everything out then there is the peace that surpasses understanding.

It is the mind that causes the suffering.

How many times have you been scared by what thought says?

It tells you about the future and what will happen.....but it rarely turns out the way thought said it would.

Do not listen to false prophets.

a reply to: midicon

What does that make atheism?

youtu.be...

a reply to: Out6of9Balance

There appears to be an obsession with ideas and thoughts......when the addiction ceases the truth will be unveiled.

Peace is the backdrop.