Wanted: Honest intelligent productive thinking to resolve the issue God exists or not.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Pachomius

Prove it.
Unless you can do so, you are welcome to your opinion.

Dear Phage, don't go away.


1. It is a fact that you and I exist and have a beginning.
2. So, it is a fact that you and I came from our parents.
3. Now, our parents came from their parents, that's a fact also.
4. And all children and parents have a beginning, that's a fact also.
5. Entities that have a beginning call for an entity without beginning.
6. This entity without beginning is what I call God in concept as the creator cause of man and the universe and everything with a beginning.
7. Therefore from premises No. 1 to No 6. God is proven to exist, in concept as the creator cause of man and the universe and everything with a beginning.



Dear Phage, please limit your objections to just one per post, okay?

originally posted by: Pachomius

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Pachomius

Prove it.
Unless you can do so, you are welcome to your opinion.

Dear Phage, don't go away.


1. It is a fact that you and I exist and have a beginning.
2. So, it is a fact that you and I came from our parents.
3. Now, our parents came from their parents, that's a fact also.
4. And all children and parents have a beginning, that's a fact also.
5. Entities that have a beginning call for an entity without beginning.
6. This entity without beginning is what I call God in concept as the creator cause of man and the universe and everything with a beginning.
7. Therefore from premises No. 1 to No 6. God is proven to exist, in concept as the creator cause of man and the universe and everything with a beginning.



Dear Phage, please limit your objections to just one per post, okay?

Nothing about your thread is honest, intelligent or productive.

I believe there is a creator. Other's opinions on it don't matter to me. I don't need their scientific evidence for it, hell, they don't even have it, but I know from creation.

originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: Pachomius

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Pachomius

Prove it.
Unless you can do so, you are welcome to your opinion.

Dear Phage, don't go away.


1. It is a fact that you and I exist and have a beginning.
2. So, it is a fact that you and I came from our parents.
3. Now, our parents came from their parents, that's a fact also.
4. And all children and parents have a beginning, that's a fact also.
5. Entities that have a beginning call for an entity without beginning.
6. This entity without beginning is what I call God in concept as the creator cause of man and the universe and everything with a beginning.
7. Therefore from premises No. 1 to No 6. God is proven to exist, in concept as the creator cause of man and the universe and everything with a beginning.



Dear Phage, please limit your objections to just one per post, okay?

Nothing about your thread is honest, intelligent or productive.

I guess it is for the individual creating their own reality, definitions, and rearranging the meaning of “evidence”.

See, God exists.

God is above all things.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Pachomius

Prove it.
Unless you can do so, you are welcome to your opinion.
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Dear Phage, don't go away.


1. It is a fact that you and I exist and have a beginning.
2. So, it is a fact that you and I came from our parents.
3. Now, our parents came from their parents, that's a fact also.
4. And all children and parents have a beginning, that's a fact also.
5. Entities that have a beginning call for an entity without beginning.
6. This entity without beginning is what I call God in concept as the creator cause of man and the universe and everything with a beginning.
7. Therefore from premises No. 1 to No 6. God is proven to exist, in concept as the creator cause of man and the universe and everything with a beginning.


Dear Phage, please limit your objections to just one per post, okay?

So, what do I see here but a lot of barking and no biting at all.


Come one come all, present one objection against my systematic proof for God's existence, in concept as the creator cause of man and the universe and everything with a beginning.


And just keep to one objection per one post, present it in a systematic manner, not like incoherent barking.

a reply to: Pachomius

You

So, what do I see here but a lot of barking and no biting at all.

By all means. Please cite from this thread where you have produced evidence that would prove with the scientific method god exists.

Come one come all, present one objection against my systematic proof for God's existence

A systemic approach would be the scientific method. What you have done is created a definition out of your “faith” and $issed on everyone else for doing the same thing as you.

in concept as the creator cause of man and the universe and everything with a beginning.

Your dogma concerning your definition and fabricated reality is not evidence of god.

And just keep to one objection per one post, present it in a systematic manner, not like incoherent barking.

You creating an argument based on your reality with your dogmatic definition of god, and you rearranging the meaning “evidence” is BS. While ignoring the long established protocol of the scientific method to prove a theory. While you wallow in your “faith”, but point the finger of “religion” when others show the same faith in their god.

a reply to: Pachomius

God in concept is a fantasy needed by some people to create reason out of chaos when their limited knowledge cannot grasp the science of the universe.

Prove me wrong.

a reply to: neutronflux

God is the source of chaos so I don't see why that would be fantasy?

originally posted by: Out6of9Balance
a reply to: neutronflux

God is the source of chaos so I don't see why that would be fantasy?

Prove it.

a reply to: midicon

Aren't you aware of any chaos? Perhaps maybe soon.

originally posted by: Out6of9Balance
a reply to: neutronflux

God is the source of chaos so I don't see why that would be fantasy?

Just playing devil’s advocate.

I believe the universe has a soul. And somethings will never be answered by science. I have faith in my God. And find it strange people want this reality’s evidence of God, when science fails to totally define this reality.

From disclosure of aliens, to God. I find it strange people seek other people’s validation when they should know in their own soul if they are right or wrong on the existence of a specific topic.

originally posted by: Out6of9Balance
a reply to: midicon

Aren't you aware of any chaos? Perhaps maybe soon.

Perhaps you can enlighten me as to what you meant by 'chaos' and show how God is the source of that.

a reply to: midicon

You're joking, haha, it's not even funny.

a reply to: midicon

I do, do you? Or do you think nothing has a beginning?

originally posted by: Out6of9Balance
a reply to: midicon

I do, do you? Or do you think nothing has a beginning?

I wasn't trying to be funny. You said...

God is the source of chaos so I don't see why that would be fantasy?

I just asked for clarity on that statement. Now you ask if nothing has a beginning. Maybe best deal with what you mean by 'chaos' and how God is the 'source' of said chaos. Then we could chat about nothing!

a reply to: midicon

Yes, you did. I noticed and replied to that ignorance.

originally posted by: Out6of9Balance
a reply to: midicon

Yes, you did. I noticed and replied to that ignorance.

I asked you what you meant by 'chaos' and how God is the source...somehow that is ignorance to you?

What is ignorance is making a statement without thinking and refusing to clarify.

Anyway, it's all good.

a reply to: midicon

No, it's not. You made that up again. Thnx for trying.