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originally posted by: spy66
a reply to: whereislogic
Now we have a issue within religion because Jesus tough us that we can all change if we want to. But the thing is you cant and you wont.
Scripture is not telling us the truth when it comes to Jesus, because Jesus is not God. Jesus does not make the calls, God does.
Jesus is given authority. This imply that Jesus is not God.
originally posted by: Pachomius
Let me resume my idea on the theory of everything, and it is that existence is always and everywhere present, so no need to seek the depths of subatomic space nor the heights of galaxy space, to formulate a theory of everything.
The theory of everything is God, in concept as the creator of cause of man and the universe and everything with a beginning.
The theory of everything is existence, the theory of everything is also God: God is the Master Mind and existence is His Man Friday.
Think about this idea, before God made the universe there is already existence, and as scientists muse about it, the universe will end, but existence still continues to stand in reality space.
And the reason is because existence aka God is the default status of reality.
originally posted by: Out6of9Balance
a reply to: spy66
Some say the Bible = aliens
originally posted by: Pachomius
Dear readers and posters who are honest intelligent productive searchers of facts, truths, logic, and the best ideas in the history of mankind, let us work together to find out how we know existence or reality is permanent i.e. eternal.
Somebody will ask me right away how do I prove that existence is eternal?
So, as usual I will invite him and me to work together as to concur on a mutually agreed on concept of what it is to prove something to exist.
By the way, this message is definitely connected to the OP, which is the following:
"Wanted: Honest intelligent productive thinking to resolve the issue God exists or not."
Is there any poster here who will volunteer to be first to propose an idea on what it is to prove something to exist?
originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: Pachomius
You don’t have the courage to answer to the below questions.
Stop changing the subject..
What would you add to the definition of faith? What aspect of the definition needs changed?
What aspect of faith do you think needs covered? What aspect of faith is not adequately covered in the Holy Bible?
Why do the personal testimonies cornering the existence of God from the Holy Bible not count?
Do you believe your spirit will stand before the creator of the universe upon the death of your physical body?
How does your circular logic and your dogmatic definitions add to the Glory of God, and how will it change a heart harden against God?
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plural faiths ˈfāths , sometimes ˈfāt͟hz
Definition of faith (Entry 1 of 2)
1a : allegiance to duty or a person : LOYALTY
lost faith in the company's president
b(1) : fidelity to one's promises
(2) : sincerity of intentions
acted in good faith
2a(1) : belief and trust in and loyalty to God
(2) : belief in the traditional doctrines of a religion
b(1) : firm belief in something for which there is no proof
clinging to the faith that her missing son would one day return
(2) : complete trust
3 : something that is believed especially with strong conviction
especially : a system of religious beliefs
the Protestant faith
: without question
took everything he said on faith
faithed; faithing; faiths
Definition of faith (Entry 2 of 2)
: BELIEVE, TRUST
New International Version
Jesus Appears to Thomas
24 Now Thomas(A) (also known as Didymus[a]), one of the Twelve, was not with the disciples when Jesus came. 25 So the other disciples told him, “We have seen the Lord!”
But he said to them, “Unless I see the nail marks in his hands and put my finger where the nails were, and put my hand into his side,(B) I will not believe.”(C)
26 A week later his disciples were in the house again, and Thomas was with them. Though the doors were locked, Jesus came and stood among them and said, “Peace(D) be with you!”(E) 27 Then he said to Thomas, “Put your finger here; see my hands. Reach out your hand and put it into my side. Stop doubting and believe.”(F)
28 Thomas said to him, “My Lord and my God!”
29 Then Jesus told him, “Because you have seen me, you have believed;(G) blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.”(H)
Matthew 21:22 ESV / 1,880 helpful votes
And whatever you ask in prayer, you will receive, if you have faith.”
Hebrews 11:6 ESV / 1,806 helpful votes
And without faith it is impossible to please him, for whoever would draw near to God must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who seek him.
Romans 10:17 ESV / 1,789 helpful votes
So faith comes from hearing, and hearing through the word of Christ.
Hebrews 11:1 ESV / 1,519 helpful votes
Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen.
Mark 11:22-24 ESV / 1,233 helpful votes
And Jesus answered them, “Have faith in God. Truly, I say to you, whoever says to this mountain, ‘Be taken up and thrown into the sea,’ and does not doubt in his heart, but believes that what he says will come to pass, it will be done for him. Therefore I tell you, whatever you ask in prayer, believe that you have received it, and it will be yours.
James 2:19 ESV / 992 helpful votes
You believe that God is one; you do well. Even the demons believe—and shudder!
Ephesians 2:8-9 ESV / 974 helpful votes
For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast.
Luke 1:37 ESV / 907 helpful votes
For nothing will be impossible with God.”
Proverbs 3:5-6 ESV / 852 helpful votes
Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and do not lean on your own understanding. In all your ways acknowledge him, and he will make straight your paths.
2 Corinthians 5:7 ESV / 816 helpful votes
For we walk by faith, not by sight.
God's So Great Salvation: A Personal Testimony
After nights of reading the Bible, one evening while I was reading in the Gospels, I saw that Jesus was God and the only way of salvation. Whereas I was previously blind to spiritual things, God opened my eyes and my unbelief suddenly left. What my parents had told me about God's salvation was true!
I now understood John 3:16 in the Bible (For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life) and I believed God and His provision of His Son for me, and I placed my faith in the Lord Jesus Christ as my Saviour.