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originally posted by: Grenade
a reply to: spy66
Essentially suggesting we should be thankful for the gift of life, like it or not we are all creations of the universe, if you think otherwise then you haven’t been paying attention. To dismiss consciousness as a random occurrence to me at least is disrespectful, the manifestation of your being is at the very least an attempt for the universe to reflect upon itself, without eyes it’s beauty would be wasted.
Pachomius posted on Sep, 11 2020 @ 03:36 PM
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. . . I ask everyone posting here to present your concept of evidence, within these (see quote following) requirements:
on Sep, 9 2020 @ 05:41 AM originally posted by Pachomius
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1. State right away what is evidence, Is it a bird, or a kite, or anything at all existing?
2. Reduce to the maximum of just 15 words or less your draft of your concept of evidence.
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For the rest of ye all posters here, if you care to work with me as to for us all to arrive at a concurred on concept of what is evidence, please observe the two requirements from me, so that you will be into honest intelligent productive thinking, instead of useless posting.
So, do honest intelligent productive thinking, and draft your concept observing the requirements above, otherwise you are not capable of honest intelligent productive thinking.
Here is my concept of evidence:
:: From Pachomius: Evidence is anything at all existing leading man to know another thing existing. (13 words)
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posted on Jun, 25 2020 @ 01:12 PM
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On the assumption that mankind sincerely seeks knowledge, I submit that it is possible for any person to come to resolve the issue God exists or not, with honest intelligent productive thinking, i.e., thinking on truths, facts, logic, and the history of ideas. Now, honest intelligent productive thinking on the said issue must start with working together to concur on the concept of God. What do you dear colleagues here say?
Dear everyone, have you noticed that my opponents have not answered my challenge to them, to produce their definition of what is evidence in the least number of words they can manage with.
evidence
Pronunciation /ˈevədəns/ /ˈɛvədəns/
Translate evidence into Spanish
NOUN
1The available body of facts or information indicating whether a belief or proposition is true or valid.
‘the study finds little evidence of overt discrimination’
www.lexico.com...
Neutron posted on Sep, 13 2020 @ 08:44 AM
a reply to: Pachomius
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You
From Pachomius
Dear everyone, have you noticed that my opponents have not answered my challenge to them, to produce their definition of what is evidence in the least number of words they can manage with.
evidence
Pronunciation /ˈevədəns/ /ˈɛvədəns/
Translate evidence into Spanish
NOUN
1The available body of facts or information indicating whether a belief or proposition is true or valid.
‘the study finds little evidence of overt discrimination’
www.lexico.com...
There you go, definition of evidence.
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edit on 12-9-2020 by neutronflux because: Added and fixrc
pthena posted on Sep, 13 2020 @ 09:57 AM
a reply to: Pachomius
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A dictionary definition is evidence that a concept has been commonly adopted by a major plurality of honest intelligent productive thinking people.
That is what you want from us isn't it?
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I never really expected to be living in the future but here I am!
I should change my signature. Yeah...maybe tomorrow.
originally posted by: pthena
a reply to: Pachomius
A dictionary definition is evidence that a concept has been commonly adopted by a major plurality of honest intelligent productive thinking people.
That is what you want from us isn't it?
What would we call 'dictionary definitions' : if there were no dictionaries ?
What percentageish of 'dictionary definitions' , and 'words' : might be made-up ?
Might honest intelligent productive thinking people : make-up dictionaries ?
What's the difference between a dictionary : and a fictionary ?
Why all of the questions ?
Why not ?
Pthena posted on Sep, 13 2020 @ 01:03 PM
a reply to: Pachomius
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A bird in the hand
is evidence that the bird
is real, and that it (15 words)
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I never really expected to be living in the future but here I am!
I should change my signature. Yeah...maybe tomorrow.
rom1234 posted on Sep, 13 2020 @ 10:05 AM
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Randomness basically means there is no way to determine a parameter from our perspective.
To me it's seems a huge leap of logic to make this the explanation of the ordered systems clearly present in the universe.
Only systems in a sort of resonance hold together, the random ones dissipate.
The nature of harmonics, which are not man made, seems like a highly structured and generative force.
For a harmonic to have so many overtones it truly profound.
To not consider the nature of the paradox divine, seems illogical to me.
God is a word that is used as a proxy for what we have no way of understanding.
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“Real knowledge is to know the extent of ones ignorance.” - Confucius
The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance - it is the illusion of knowledge.
Daniel J. Boorstin
originally posted by: spy66
a reply to: neutronflux
Still no evidence? Just faith.
Please share if you have any. You can not prove that God did not form our existing universe. Because you dont know what did. There is no science that can disprove the existance of God.
So what the hell is your faith...? It must be based on something fictional because you can not present evidence yourself.
You speak as there is no God... what are your evidence for such a claim..? I bet it is based on faith.
John 20:24-29
New International Version
Jesus Appears to Thomas
24 Now Thomas(A) (also known as Didymus[a]), one of the Twelve, was not with the disciples when Jesus came. 25 So the other disciples told him, “We have seen the Lord!”
But he said to them, “Unless I see the nail marks in his hands and put my finger where the nails were, and put my hand into his side,(B) I will not believe.”(C)
26 A week later his disciples were in the house again, and Thomas was with them. Though the doors were locked, Jesus came and stood among them and said, “Peace(D) be with you!”(E) 27 Then he said to Thomas, “Put your finger here; see my hands. Reach out your hand and put it into my side. Stop doubting and believe.”(F)
28 Thomas said to him, “My Lord and my God!”
29 Then Jesus told him, “Because you have seen me, you have believed;(G) blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.”(H)
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Dear Neutron, shame on you, you don't have any definition except from the dictionary, hey Neutron, use your brain and stock knowledge and information, and produce your very own personally drafted definition of evidence.
Dear everyone, have you noticed that my opponents have not answered my challenge to them, to produce their definition of what is evidence in the least number of words they can manage with.
evidence
Pronunciation /ˈevədəns/ /ˈɛvədəns/
Translate evidence into Spanish
NOUN
1The available body of facts or information indicating whether a belief or proposition is true or valid.
‘the study finds little evidence of overt discrimination’
www.lexico.com...
I hate to say this to you, but you are really out of your depths.