Wanted: Honest intelligent productive thinking to resolve the issue God exists or not.

a reply to: Degradation33

Big words.
No substance.

Tell me what you think without crossing 3 syllables.

a reply to: Krahzeef_Ukhar

While I choose the "Respond=True" logic gate.

How I proceed from there is my free choice.

Have a nice day, and thank you for helping me demonstrate how even responses in threads can be plotted subjectively along antithetical opposites once the the decision is made to engage.

I said it was an ethereal argument.

But I'll dumb it down..

"God" is imprinted in the constant recurrence of dualist choices we are faced with.

"Responsible v. Irresponsible", "Benevolent v. Malevolent", or the oft mentioned "Good" vs "Evil".

Even our choices in what we think is a free range of options is in fact somewhere around a universal "moral" balance point as innate as any law.

A range of choices until we act and plot it.

The conundrum is; is it (the balance point) there because it's the cosmic order, or is it there as a defect of observation?

Just as a radio receiver is needed to 'hear' radio broadcast...a receiving is also needed to 'hear' the Spirit of God.

The human spirit is the only 'receiver' that can 'hear' the Spirit of God.

God is not first known through the psyche/reason/knowledge...
...and all you need to do is ask...Luke put it this way...

"What father among you, if his son asks for a fish, will instead of a fish give him a serpent;
or if he asks for an egg, will give him a scorpion?

If you then, who are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will the heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to those WHO ASK HIM!"

(Luk 11:11-13)

originally posted by: troubleshooter


If you then, who are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will the heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to those WHO ASK HIM!"

(Luk 11:11-13)

MONO





The thread is about:
"Wanted: Honest intelligent productive thinking to resolve the issue God exists or not."

And God is understood in the monotheistic faiths of Christianism, Islamism, and Judaism.

Now the generic concept of God in these three faiths is as follows:

"God (in concept) is the creator cause of man and the universe and everything with a beginning."

And how to prove His existence is by evidence, for example, the nose on our face and the brain behind the nose housed in the skull, they together are evidence to the existence of God.

You have got to have a brain to comprehend how the nose and the brain itself behind the nose they make up one among innumerable evidence to the existence of God.


Dear readers, when you read the posts here, as soon as you notice that there is no connection to God and to evidence for God, then you need not read further - unless you care to invest in slaughtering precious time with derailers here.

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a reply to: Pachomius

For who are we to prove God exists Pacho? Keyboard warriors will post nonsense and nobody has proof of inexistence?

Those that claim inexistence are only reacting offended or find their salvation in science because to them science concludes inexistence.

Their disbelief is only a conclusion.

They seemingly have no concept of eternity if you reason their claims.

Belief is not a choice, it is a conviction based on trust. They claim blind trust by which they mean it is not confirmed by a third party.

We need to convince them of God by the way we treat them.

We need to catch them off guard.

They must feel how they stricken themselves by what they say by us only appearing in our light.

They must feel when they are wrong and be blessed with the grace and not condemned by us. Given salvation and not condemnation only when they want to understand.

We, though, can only remain in our light letting time solve any problems.

a reply to: Out6of9Balance

Faith is the point that grows into a personal relationship where evidence of God’s existence becomes irrelevant.

Not the fake proof of circular logic that is meaningless to someone else’s personal revolution. And not the dogma of some soulless definition.

And don’t you call things that are “worldly” demonic like ATS. So why are you knowingly dabbling in something demonic? Seems you have no fear of your god. Maybe you really don’t believe and serve your god as much as you think you do?

Your demeanor brings something else to mind..

Matthew 6:5
“And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.”

King James Version (KJV)

www.kingjamesbibleonline.org...

Or...

Matthew 7:3-5
New International Version
3 “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4 How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5 You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.

www.google.com...=Matthew%2b7:3-5&version=NIV&interamp

Preying for spiritual maturity that brings peace beyond all understanding, and that we free ourselves of demonic influences and practices.

a reply to: neutronflux

You think I was judging while I only offered the truth and you're judging me accordingly.

People who think the universe is the source can 't find God.

God is the reason this universe appears.

originally posted by: Out6of9Balance
a reply to: neutronflux

You think I was judging while I only offered the truth and you're judging me accordingly.

People who think the universe is the source can 't find God.

God is the reason this universe appears.

No. Saying things are “worldly” equates demonic is ignorant. Then participating in something worldly is hypocritical.


What is more worldly than having a meal? Is eating two or three nutritious/balanced meals a day demonic?

I really wish you would post your arbitrary rules on how you decide what is demonic. Just falsely and self righteously calling something demonic doesn’t make it demonic.

a reply to: Out6of9Balance

Some highlights why you are wrong..,

Judgement belongs to the Lord? Is that false.

You have had ample time to show grace and love they enemy. And judgement belongs to the Lord. Labeling normal people with free will and voicing the doubts normal people have which we are commanded to love as ourselves as demonic (falsely and self righteously) is not God’s will.

a reply to: Out6of9Balance

Peter denied Christ three times. Was Peter condemned as being demonic?

So you're saying the world is holy or what are you saying?

originally posted by: Degradation33
a reply to: Krahzeef_Ukhar

While I choose the "Respond=True" logic gate.

How I proceed from there is my free choice.

Have a nice day, and thank you for helping me demonstrate how even responses in threads can be plotted subjectively along antithetical opposites once the the decision is made to engage.

I said it was an ethereal argument.

But I'll dumb it down..

"God" is imprinted in the constant recurrence of dualist choices we are faced with.

"Responsible v. Irresponsible", "Benevolent v. Malevolent", or the oft mentioned "Good" vs "Evil".

Even our choices in what we think is a free range of options is in fact somewhere around a universal "moral" balance point as innate as any law.

A range of choices until we act and plot it.

The conundrum is; is it (the balance point) there because it's the cosmic order, or is it there as a defect of observation?

So what you're saying is, the ethical fulcrum between the moral dualities of choice is a human device inserted by human psychology? And we call it God so we don't experience the identity crisis of realizing our own hand moves the puppet wizard behind the curtain?

originally posted by: Out6of9Balance
So you're saying the world is holy or what are you saying?

Just saying everything worldly in general is not demonic. And as a person that has sinned, people in general do not have the right to condemn someone as demonic. And labeling a person demonic that has no affiliation with a self proclaimed demonic religion helps in no way.

originally posted by: Out6of9Balance
So you're saying the world is holy or what are you saying?

Well. Not really. But who made the world again?

a reply to: neutronflux

I can make guns and I can make pies. What does that say about me?

Not holy = demonic

a reply to: neutronflux

You still think the earth is the source of all things? It's not, God is.

originally posted by: Out6of9Balance
a reply to: neutronflux

You still think the earth is the source of all things? It's not, God is.

So. Where did the earth come from?

originally posted by: Out6of9Balance
a reply to: neutronflux

You still think the earth is the source of all things? It's not, God is.

And quote where I posted such a thing. You come up with the strangest false arguments.

a reply to: neutronflux

Put your logical brain in action. It's not that hard.

If the earth is not the source of all things but God is?