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originally posted by: Brotherman
a reply to: DoctorBluechip
I always thought that no matter the virus if you had it you had it, no immunity some people can be infected with one and it #s with them some people get it and it does nothing... how's this different?
originally posted by: KKLOCO
a reply to: DoctorBluechip
Time for honesty.
You’re Fauci — aren’t you?
originally posted by: RazorV66
originally posted by: KKLOCO
a reply to: DoctorBluechip
Time for honesty.
You’re Fauci — aren’t you?
Even Fauci doesn’t fearmonger like the OP does.
Fauci says a lot of “Maybe this and maybe that”, this guy has the entire world dying by the fall.
originally posted by: BoscoMoney
a reply to: DoctorBluechip
Uh-huh. Well, you had me at "heavy viral load".
Look, just bring on the second wave so freeloaders like myself can get some more stimulus money.
originally posted by: Brotherman
a reply to: DoctorBluechip
Medics treating anyone wear ppe.
me as a person I honestly don't give a damn about the corona virus more or less then I care about the flu, cold, ebola, sars, the Iraqi whooping cough, aids, and small pox... I would've chucked anthrax in there too but I guess bacteria is a bit different. Then again all the sh1t I just mentioned I had a little taste of except ebola or sars (I know of) still give 2 sh1ts less.
Cant fight sickness unless you live in a bubble and it sounds like you promote living in one or want everyone else around you to live in one.
originally posted by: DoctorBluechip
originally posted by: RazorV66
originally posted by: KKLOCO
a reply to: DoctorBluechip
Time for honesty.
You’re Fauci — aren’t you?
Even Fauci doesn’t fearmonger like the OP does.
Fauci says a lot of “Maybe this and maybe that”, this guy has the entire world dying by the fall.
Yeah right , it deliberately calls itself a zoonotic pandemic virus causing life threatening pneumonia .
But everything's just fine , eh ?
And even Fauci , who doesn't warn Americans if he decides not to
A new study suggests that as many as 8.7 million Americans came down with coronavirus in March, but more than 80% of them were never diagnosed.
A team of researchers looked at the number of people who went to doctors or clinics with influenza-like illnesses that were never diagnosed as coronavirus, influenza or any of the other viruses that usually circulate in winter.
originally posted by: RazorV66
originally posted by: DoctorBluechip
originally posted by: RazorV66
originally posted by: KKLOCO
a reply to: DoctorBluechip
CEO of the American Association for the Advancement of Science Rush D. Holt, Jr. wrote, in his article, “Scientific Drivers for Diplomacy,” published in Science & Diplomacy: “Beyond providing knowledge and applications to benefit human welfare, scientific cooperation is a useful part of diplomacy—scientific cooperation to work on problems across borders and without boundaries, cooperation made possible by the international language and methodology of science, cooperation in examining evidence that allows scientists to get beyond ideologies and form relationships that allow diplomats to defuse politically explosive situations.”[51] Holt was the U.S. Representative for New Jersey's 12th congressional district from 1999 to 2015, and has a PhD in Physics from New York University.
Many of the global challenges related to health, economic growth, and climate change lay at the intersection of science and international relations.[52
Time for honesty.
You’re Fauci — aren’t you?
Even Fauci doesn’t fearmonger like the OP does.
Fauci says a lot of “Maybe this and maybe that”, this guy has the entire world dying by the fall.
Yeah right , it deliberately calls itself a zoonotic pandemic virus causing life threatening pneumonia .
But everything's just fine , eh ?
And even Fauci , who doesn't warn Americans if he decides not to
You must have missed my thread from earlier today then.
www.abovetopsecret.com...
How do you explain this?
A new study suggests that as many as 8.7 million Americans came down with coronavirus in March, but more than 80% of them were never diagnosed.
A team of researchers looked at the number of people who went to doctors or clinics with influenza-like illnesses that were never diagnosed as coronavirus, influenza or any of the other viruses that usually circulate in winter.
www.cnn.com...
stm.sciencemag.org...
CEO of the American Association for the Advancement of Science Rush D. Holt, Jr. wrote, in his article, “Scientific Drivers for Diplomacy,” published in Science & Diplomacy: “Beyond providing knowledge and applications to benefit human welfare, scientific cooperation is a useful part of diplomacy—scientific cooperation to work on problems across borders and without boundaries, cooperation made possible by the international language and methodology of science, cooperation in examining evidence that allows scientists to get beyond ideologies and form relationships that allow diplomats to defuse politically explosive situations.”[51] Holt was the U.S. Representative for New Jersey's 12th congressional district from 1999 to 2015, and has a PhD in Physics from New York University.
Many of the global challenges related to health, economic growth, and climate change lay at the intersection of science and international relations.[52
get a heavy viral load , which will infect you quickly and make you very ill . Contrast that with perhaps picking up a tiny amount to start with , the infection you get will be more minor symptoms .
originally posted by: midnightstar
got the flue a few times once no big deal other times more of a problem that does not make the flue any less of danger
. 80 % mild miens 20 % with a really bad sickness of which many of the 20% will die .
20 % of american population 60 million people apx .
how many people did the common cold kill last year ?
No big deal nothing to see move along .
originally posted by: DoctorBluechip
originally posted by: RazorV66
originally posted by: DoctorBluechip
originally posted by: RazorV66
originally posted by: KKLOCO
a reply to: DoctorBluechip
CEO of the American Association for the Advancement of Science Rush D. Holt, Jr. wrote, in his article, “Scientific Drivers for Diplomacy,” published in Science & Diplomacy: “Beyond providing knowledge and applications to benefit human welfare, scientific cooperation is a useful part of diplomacy—scientific cooperation to work on problems across borders and without boundaries, cooperation made possible by the international language and methodology of science, cooperation in examining evidence that allows scientists to get beyond ideologies and form relationships that allow diplomats to defuse politically explosive situations.”[51] Holt was the U.S. Representative for New Jersey's 12th congressional district from 1999 to 2015, and has a PhD in Physics from New York University.
Many of the global challenges related to health, economic growth, and climate change lay at the intersection of science and international relations.[52
Time for honesty.
You’re Fauci — aren’t you?
Even Fauci doesn’t fearmonger like the OP does.
Fauci says a lot of “Maybe this and maybe that”, this guy has the entire world dying by the fall.
Yeah right , it deliberately calls itself a zoonotic pandemic virus causing life threatening pneumonia .
But everything's just fine , eh ?
And even Fauci , who doesn't warn Americans if he decides not to
You must have missed my thread from earlier today then.
www.abovetopsecret.com...
How do you explain this?
A new study suggests that as many as 8.7 million Americans came down with coronavirus in March, but more than 80% of them were never diagnosed.
A team of researchers looked at the number of people who went to doctors or clinics with influenza-like illnesses that were never diagnosed as coronavirus, influenza or any of the other viruses that usually circulate in winter.
www.cnn.com...
stm.sciencemag.org...
CEO of the American Association for the Advancement of Science Rush D. Holt, Jr. wrote, in his article, “Scientific Drivers for Diplomacy,” published in Science & Diplomacy: “Beyond providing knowledge and applications to benefit human welfare, scientific cooperation is a useful part of diplomacy—scientific cooperation to work on problems across borders and without boundaries, cooperation made possible by the international language and methodology of science, cooperation in examining evidence that allows scientists to get beyond ideologies and form relationships that allow diplomats to defuse politically explosive situations.”[51] Holt was the U.S. Representative for New Jersey's 12th congressional district from 1999 to 2015, and has a PhD in Physics from New York University.
Many of the global challenges related to health, economic growth, and climate change lay at the intersection of science and international relations.[52
originally posted by: DoctorBluechip
originally posted by: Brotherman
a reply to: DoctorBluechip
Medics treating anyone wear ppe.
me as a person I honestly don't give a damn about the corona virus more or less then I care about the flu, cold, ebola, sars, the Iraqi whooping cough, aids, and small pox... I would've chucked anthrax in there too but I guess bacteria is a bit different. Then again all the sh1t I just mentioned I had a little taste of except ebola or sars (I know of) still give 2 sh1ts less.
Cant fight sickness unless you live in a bubble and it sounds like you promote living in one or want everyone else around you to live in one.
It's not about you and it's not about me , it's about a global pandemic . It matters no shreds what you or I think , what it does to the world will be what it wants to pan out .
And your first statement is completely false .
We must be more concerned about situations where somebody receives a massive dose of the virus (we have no data on how large that might be but bodily fluids from those infected with other viruses can contain a million, and up to a hundred million viruses per ml), particularly through inhalation.
“Unfortunately, we don’t yet know enough about the distribution of the COVID-19 virus throughout the body of the infected patients in normal, and unusual situations.
“Under such circumstances the virus receives a massive jump start, leading to a massive innate immune response, which will struggle to control the virus to allow time for acquired immunity to kick-in while at the same time leading to considerable inflammation and a cytokine storm.
“For most of us, it’s hard to see how we could receive such a high dose; it’s going to be a rare event. In the COVID-19 clinic, the purpose of PPE is to prevent such large exposures leading to high dose infection. Situations we should be concerned about are potential high dose exposure of clinical staff conducting procedures on patients who are not known to be infected. I read about a Chinese description of an early stage COVID-19 infection of the lung, which only came about because lung cancer patients (not known to be infected) had lobectemies. There have been suggestions that such situations contributed to the deaths of medics in Wuhan, who were conducting normal procedures (including some that could generate aerosols of infected fluids) before the spread and risk had been appreciated.
“Obviously, testing of patients for infection should now be a priority for any such procedures. Some of the relevant elective procedures have been postponed or scaled back (for patient and staff safety) but we can’t do the same for non-elective procedures (especially in emergency and maternity departments).”
originally posted by: DoctorBluechip
a reply to: LookingAtMars
We must be more concerned about situations where somebody receives a massive dose of the virus (we have no data on how large that might be but bodily fluids from those infected with other viruses can contain a million, and up to a hundred million viruses per ml), particularly through inhalation.
“Unfortunately, we don’t yet know enough about the distribution of the COVID-19 virus throughout the body of the infected patients in normal, and unusual situations.
“Under such circumstances the virus receives a massive jump start, leading to a massive innate immune response, which will struggle to control the virus to allow time for acquired immunity to kick-in while at the same time leading to considerable inflammation and a cytokine storm.
“For most of us, it’s hard to see how we could receive such a high dose; it’s going to be a rare event. In the COVID-19 clinic, the purpose of PPE is to prevent such large exposures leading to high dose infection. Situations we should be concerned about are potential high dose exposure of clinical staff conducting procedures on patients who are not known to be infected. I read about a Chinese description of an early stage COVID-19 infection of the lung, which only came about because lung cancer patients (not known to be infected) had lobectemies. There have been suggestions that such situations contributed to the deaths of medics in Wuhan, who were conducting normal procedures (including some that could generate aerosols of infected fluids) before the spread and risk had been appreciated.
“Obviously, testing of patients for infection should now be a priority for any such procedures. Some of the relevant elective procedures have been postponed or scaled back (for patient and staff safety) but we can’t do the same for non-elective procedures (especially in emergency and maternity departments).”
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