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originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: okrian
When did I deny racism exists in the usa?
It just exists more in the other supposed first world nations that have denied people of color positions of power.
And Barak gets to deal with his crimes and the legacy of such.
HE will hold his peolle back because of his actions.
No more than 400,000 African slaves were brought to the United States if I recall correctly. All African Americans are descended from them (I *think*). British subjects, on the other hand, bought millions of slaves to work on their Caribbean possessions, where the mortality rate was very high. Working in a sugar cane field was tantamount to a death sentence in those days. Black prisoners in the early 20th century who worked the sugar cane fields at the old Imperial State Prison Farm in SE Texas usually didn’t live more than 10 years.
originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
originally posted by: jjkenobi
And how many black celebrities are in... Mexico? China? Japan? Norway? Denmark? Sweden? Argentina? USA has tens of thousands of them.
How many of those countries imported millions of them?
originally posted by: IAMALLYETALLIAM
a reply to: FlyinHeadlock
I know exactly what you are saying, you wish to dissolve the guilt you feel for the perpetration of slavery in the US committed in majority by whites by pointing out a minuscule group of Africans who also participated.
There were Jews who ratted on their own people to save their skin....does that make the holocaust ok?
You clearly don’t admire African Americans because you made a point of saying you admire native Americans.
originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
a reply to: zosimov
More like their own talking taints.
originally posted by: mtnshredder
Seemed appropriate for this thread.
originally posted by: olaru12
a reply to: 99problems99
Im pointing out we actually fought a war for black rights .
Do you realize that a lot of black people also fought in those wars. And at the time those wars were fought, black people had to sit in the back of the bus.
originally posted by: eletheia
originally posted by: strongfp
He wasn't whining. He was pointing out that it's still around and alive.
And he was pointing out....... from a position of privilege.
originally posted by: Asktheanimals
America still provides the most opportunity for anyone with ambition or talent to make good. Where else is freedom of religion, freedom of speech, freedom of assembly to protest and the right to self defense a core part of their legal system? Trial by a jury of your peers, no cruel or unusual punishment? Equal rights for all races and religions?
I'll be the first to admit corporations and banking have a stranglehold on our government and it has only gotten worse. If a revolution could free us of their rule and restore it to the people then I'm all for it. I dont know what banning monkeys from cereal or tearing down statues will accomplish. Everything has become a target of opportunity to express outrage. What we need to do is focus on the structural issues and corruption that plague our system. That may mean dirty cops, DA's, bloated bureaucracies with overpaid employees, groups like the NEA can be abolished for the benefit of all students. Fact is easily 50% of our federal government is either useless or counterproductive.
Sudden changes reap instability so a slow process of fundamental change is necessary and is long overdue. How about phasing out all preferential hiring based on race? Student loans and grade curving need to go if we want actual equality. Perhaps most importantly the welfare system needs to be changed to discourage young women from having children as a source of income. This has led to single parent households, lack of discipline and widespread criminality. It is proven that 2 parent households raise healthier, happier children which statistically is more common among white and asian populations though all races are suffering from increased rates of single parent households.
Many of today's issues stem from dissolution of traditional families and communities irrespective of race. Religion has lost it's place as our moral arbiter only to leave a void of morals and social cohesion. Healing the wounds can be accomplished and we can come together as a people, the people of the Unite States. It won't be easy and will take generations to achieve just as it's taken 60 years to tear it apart. Communism is being displayed in all it's ugliness for America to see and more and more the average American is ready to see it gone. It doesnt work, it isn't democratic and if you value freedom at all you don't want it. It may take a while to deprogram the last generations from their indoctrination to be 'world citizens' willing to give their lives to stop climate change and structural racism. Sanity can return but we must stop fighting each other and recognize the real enemies of the people.
sorry for the ramble.