Cases surge in Florida where governor opposes another shutdown

It is one of 20 states that have seen the number of newly reported cases grow over the past two weeks, according to a New York Times database.

Gov. Ron DeSantis of Florida, a Republican, attributed the uptick to more widespread testing, noting at a news conference Tuesday that the state was not only testing far more people than it did earlier in the spring, but was also going into high-risk environments, testing farm workers and migrant workers, and finding new cases.

But epidemiologists have said that the numbers recorded in the state in recent days suggest increased transmissions, and the governor acknowledged that community transmission remained a factor.

“There’s been community spread the whole time,” Mr. DeSantis said at the news conference, saying that there were pockets of the state with higher rates, particularly lower-income areas.

He dismissed the idea that the recent infections stemmed from the reopening of businesses including bars and restaurants and said the state would not shutter activity again.

“We’re not shutting down,” he said. He added: “you have to have society function.”

Well , you have to have hospitals function too .

Be careful out there . This started at 0 . Protect yourselves .

Enough cases of viral pnumonia at once , then shtf , and where's society after that ?

You need to have essential services function , not society per se. But apparently there isn't money to bail everyone out past a certain time.
They say money is the root of all evil .

Good luck

Cases are "surging" because more people are getting tested only to find they have it or have had it. As more test become available, the more people will test positive. Deaths however haven't surged, only proving that the percent of people who did from the virus is getting way low compared to number of cases

originally posted by: Mark08
Cases are "surging" because more people are getting tested only to find they have it or have had it. As more test become available, the more people will test positive. Deaths however haven't surged, only proving that the percent of people who did from the virus is getting way low compared to number of cases

That's the statistical nuance that gets left out of the sensationalist headlines.

originally posted by: Mark08
Cases are "surging" because more people are getting tested only to find they have it or have had it. As more test become available, the more people will test positive. Deaths however haven't surged, only proving that the percent of people who did from the virus is getting way low compared to number of cases

Exactly and it's like TPTB don't remember the reason for the shutdown was flattening the curve, to spread out potential hospitalizations and deaths, ie we knew there would be more cases. So far the rate hasn't been anywhere near where the "experts" predicted. Pretty much we were fear mongered into the "new normal".

Testing has gone way up due to more availability. Hospitalizations have leveled off in most areas and declined in others.

Most people aren't buying into it anymore.

(Florida resident.)

a reply to: Mark08

As more test become available, the more people will test positive.

Will that also cause the percentage of positive tests (of total) to rise?

From a low of 2.6% at the end of May to 5.5% now? The percentage was falling (as testing increased) through May and it doesn't really look like testing has been increasing much since then. Florida was also mixing antibody tests with viral tests. Are they still doing that?
coronavirus.jhu.edu...

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The only way, we could have kept, the infections down was to keep everything on lockdown.

We can’t do that. The infections are going back up, the lockdowns per se bought us time... That was all, oh and unrest.

I sense some serious monkey business thou, talking to you Economy. Definitely do not trust the economic numbers right now. They are building a house of cards. I smell war, in most directions coming. Time to soar with the eagles folks, and not peck the dirt with the chickens..

a reply to: DoctorBluechip

AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!

ANOTHER fear mongering thread!!

CRAZY PILLS!!!!!

"CASES" don't mean squat unless a person dies. Just like pneumonia, flu, hepatitis, and other contagious diseases. Any of us can go to a hospital (physical or mental) and be diagnosed with a "CASE" of something.

a reply to: DoctorBluechip

Better stay in your basement and cower OP.

a reply to: carewemust

So, death is the only thing that matters.

A certain number of people who become infected will require hospitalization. That's the way it works.

When more people become infected, more will require hospitalization (and will die). But fortunately it seems there is an effective treatment for those who become very ill.
www.abovetopsecret.com...

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Mark08

As more test become available, the more people will test positive.

Will that also cause the percentage of positive tests (of total) to rise?

From a low of 2.6% at the end of May to 5.5% now? The percentage was falling (as testing increased) through May and it doesn't really look like testing has been increasing much since then. Florida was also mixing antibody tests with viral tests. Are they still doing that?
coronavirus.jhu.edu...

Yes.

As of May 15.

Link

a reply to: MotherMayEye

But this is June 16th.

a reply to: Phage

And you mentioned the end of May generally being the starting point for the spike. May 15 is not that far off.

Nurse friend down here say's hospitals are empty, but ymmv, I am only looking at my county,

a reply to: Phage

Keep in mind, too, that in reading these antibody tests, the prevalence of cases in the area is used to determine whether a negative should be considered a false-negative and a positive a false-positive.

Honestly, the data is so worthless, imo. It can be used to make any point a person wants to make.

originally posted by: carewemust
"CASES" don't mean squat unless a person dies. Just like pneumonia, flu, hepatitis, and other contagious diseases. Any of us can go to a hospital (physical or mental) and be diagnosed with a "CASE" of something.

Except in the case of Covid, even after recovery there can be long-term damage to various tissues and organs in the body.

news.google.com...

New cases in Florida have increased by about 1,000 a day and looks like it may drop again.

New testing is up by about 30,000 a day over the same time period.

So if you normalize new cases by number of tests conducted than the number of new cases is much lower than it ever was.

www.nytimes.com...

New deaths are on a decline

a reply to: MotherMayEye

I don't get your point. Did they stop mixing test results? Is that why testing rates haven't seemed to have increased much since the end of May?

a reply to: DanDanDat

So if you normalize new cases by number of tests conducted than the number of new cases is much lower than it ever was.

Can you explain that in light of the fact that the percentage of positive tests has been increasing since its low point at the end of May?