Boston Mayor Wants To Remove Statue Of Lincoln Freeing Slaves

a reply to: IAMTAT
Let them wipe away history. That way they have no reason to keep crying for reparations.

Did you know the Holocaust never actually happened? It's all a lie.

Nothing will ever be good enough for leftists.

These idiots will be the first in the gulag if they are ever successful in their revolution.

originally posted by: mysterioustranger

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: mysterioustranger
a reply to: IAMTAT

Took down Columbus statue in Detroit today

Bad idea! If it wasn't for Christopher Columbus, today's African Americans would not exist.

And here I am in the "D". What? Motown statues next?

Next will come removing bricks and walls dedicated to historical figures. Actually, all of it is vandalism and the perpetrators should be prosecuted as such. If they are allowed to get away with it, the door is LEGALLY OPEN for the next level of theft and destruction.

originally posted by: highvein

originally posted by: IAMTAT

originally posted by: highvein

originally posted by: IAMTAT

originally posted by: highvein
a reply to: network dude

It seemed important enough to some freed slaves, to give money towards it. Does everyone want it gone, or just the one's who we can hear currently?

I wonder if they got to view the statue before the unveiling?

Did you get to see what your car or house looked like before you bought it?

Yeah. Did they?

So, if you did...why wouldn't they?

I don't know if they did. Since segregation lasted another 100 years I am not so sure they had the input on the project you envision them having. They would take their money, but as far as input I highly doubt that a slave envisions themselves kneeling to yet another white man.

Their money was the same color as anyone else's.
I'm sure the sculptor saw it that way.

Also...the freed slave is on one knee (no longer two)...and in the process of pushing himself up and rising to his full stature.
I would imagine that was an image newly-freed slaves could certainly empathize with.

originally posted by: IAMTAT
Michelangelo has, in both paint and marble, depicted God as a white person.
Racist?---Sure, I can see that argument being made.

I can also see this as Michelangelo freely expressing his personal opinion as to what God may look like in human form...This is called 'Artistic License'...and an important part of 'Freedom of Expression'.

So Free Expression to create vs. Free Expression to express offense.

Should Michelangelo have his works destroyed by those finding them offensive?

The answer would be a resounding yes. Michelangelo is a really bad pick here, he did so himself.

Michelangelo also created another Pieta, called The Deposition. He worked on it, according to his biographer Vasari, as a way of keeping his body and mind in order. He worked on the sculpture of four figures for eight years. And then one day, he became enraged with it, and broke it. He passed the damaged work on to a friend. Amazed at what the great man had done, he asked why it had been damaged.

“He answered it was because of his servant Urbino’s importunity, who was always urging him to finish it, and besides that, among other things, he had broken a piece off the Virgin’s arm, and before that he had taken a dislike to it, having many misfortunes because of a crack there was in it; so at last, losing patience, he had broken it, and would have destroyed it altogether if his servant Antonio had not begged him to give it him as it was.”So the lesson is never to push a genius to work quickly.

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At least he depicted God as a white guy, eh? But did he really?

a reply to: IAMTAT

Their money was the same color as anyone else's.
I'm sure the sculptor saw it that way.

That doesn't mean he saw their vision of the statue.

Also...the freed slave is on one knee (no longer two)...and in the process of pushing himself up and rising to his full stature.
I would imagine that was an image newly-freed slaves could certainly empathize with.

That's an interesting view. I would imagine it would be hard to stand with the shackles on the wrist of the slave being secured to the floor as is on the statue. But I could be wrong.

Statue-toppling is book-burning.

It's stifling the free expression of others because what is expressed is found offensive by some.

I guess the most disappointing thing about all of this is those who approve of it.

Hide it!
Cover it!

Put it in a museum!

What museum? A museum you'll close as soon as it's "safely" ensconced?

The only ones who use and approve of censorship and book burning are cowards and tyrants.

So those that are for this, ask yourselves.

Are you a coward or a tyrant?

a reply to: IAMTAT
I think next, they will want to deface Mount Rushmore since it depicts the faces of Washington, Lincoln and Thomas Jefferson.

I wonder if they would be so quick to destroy the statue if they knew that model for the statue was a former slave that was an ancestor of Muhammad Ali?
Archer Alexander

Maybe Abe should have committed to the idea of moral goodness instead of only appeasing his voting base.

In the Horace Greeley letter, Abe made it very clear that abolishing slavery was not his mission even though it's the mission that he gets credited with.

Furthermore there are his Presidential debates in which he refers to whites as the 'master' race and that blacks should not be looked at as equals.

Oh, and then there's Lincoln's idea of survivor island. His way of solving the black population problem was to ship them off to random islands

The first Republican President was really something, a portrait of today and the nightmare that will never fade away

Just because you were taught a lie doesn't mean you have to believe it

a reply to: DBCowboy

Are you a coward or a tyrant?

The one that doesn't support things that elicit pain from another human. Which one is that?

originally posted by: highvein
a reply to: DBCowboy

Are you a coward or a tyrant?

The one that doesn't support things that elicit pain from another human. Which one is that?

So you support absolutely nothing that causes any pain to any human being on the planet?

Holy sh#t!

Jesus Christ has an ATS membership!

originally posted by: Alchemst7
a reply to: IAMTAT
I think next, they will want to deface Mount Rushmore since it depicts the faces of Washington, Lincoln and Thomas Jefferson.

They will (hopefully) try to attempt it when President Trump is there on July 4th for the YUGE fireworks display.

originally posted by: Alchemst7
a reply to: IAMTAT
I think next, they will want to deface Mount Rushmore since it depicts the faces of Washington, Lincoln and Thomas Jefferson.

Mount Rushmore? Think Stone Mountain In Georgia first. I predict it will be a flash point withIn a few years.

originally posted by: butcherguy
I wonder if they would be so quick to destroy the statue if they knew that model for the statue was a former slave that was an ancestor of Muhammad Ali?
Archer Alexander

People with their IQ level think Muhammad Ali was a slave owner.

originally posted by: 3sixand9
Maybe Abe should have committed to the idea of moral goodness instead of only appeasing his voting base.

In the Horace Greeley letter, Abe made it very clear that abolishing slavery was not his mission even though it's the mission that he gets credited with.

Furthermore there are his Presidential debates in which he refers to whites as the 'master' race and that blacks should not be looked at as equals.

Oh, and then there's Lincoln's idea of survivor island. His way of solving the black population problem was to ship them off to random islands

The first Republican President was really something, a portrait of today and the nightmare that will never fade away

Just because you were taught a lie doesn't mean you have to believe it

Cool story brah, but you can’t have it all.
John Wilkes Booth was a Confederate sympathizer and killed Lincoln because he freed the slaves.
Also the 1st king of your Democrat Party, Andrew Jackson, was a slave owner.
How can you sleep at night?

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: highvein
a reply to: DBCowboy

Are you a coward or a tyrant?

The one that doesn't support things that elicit pain from another human. Which one is that?

So you support absolutely nothing that causes any pain to any human being on the planet?

Holy sh#t!

Jesus Christ has an ATS membership!

Silly rabbit Trix are for kids.

You don't have to be Christ to not want someone to feel pain. You simply have to care.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
Jesus Christ has an ATS membership!

Verily, I say unto thee: "...Let he who is without s**tposts spam the first troll."

originally posted by: highvein

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: highvein
a reply to: DBCowboy

Are you a coward or a tyrant?

The one that doesn't support things that elicit pain from another human. Which one is that?

So you support absolutely nothing that causes any pain to any human being on the planet?

Holy sh#t!

Jesus Christ has an ATS membership!

Silly rabbit Trix are for kids.

You don't have to be Christ to not want someone to feel pain. You simply have to care.

That's a load of crap.

People get offended if I wear purple pants.

So I can't wear purple pants any more because the color purple offends them?

Being offended does not give you super powers to overturn or infringe on anyone's rights.

It just doesn't.

Get over yourself already.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
People get offended if I wear purple pants.

So I can't wear purple pants any more because the color purple offends them?

They weren't offended, they thought Grimmace from McDonald's had come to life and it frightened the hell out of them.