China vs India - 20 Indian Soldiers Killed; 43 Chinese Casualties

a reply to: ThatDamnDuckAgain

Sorry if I came across that way, I was just pointing out how important the region is globally to weather and how the fallout could spread as well as other detrimental affect's.

Either way these two are both nuclear armed nations and I truly hope someone does not get an itchy trigger finger, I am assuming that China whom are ostensibly allied to Pakistan are hoping that Pakistan will also launch an attack if they decide to make it more intense, if that does happen however India WILL nuke Pakistan into oblivion - at least it's major population centres and military assets and then India also still has a large enough nuclear arsenal though no where near as large as China's to also attack and cripple China which would result in an immediate nuclear response from China, this also has the potential to drag many other nations into the conflict including the US, Britain whom may station at least one of our nuclear submarines in the pacific as a deterrent against such an aggressive act and other's as well as opportunists whom may see it as an excellent time to expand there own territory, Iran has had it's eye's on parts of the Hindu Kush which was historically part of it's empire for a long time as well though I doubt they would act but that said there are other potential players.

Currently I hope the situation stabilized for regional stability and also global economic stability as well as humanitarian reason's.

a reply to: Smarties

Have chinese and indians fought and killed each other in these numbers before?

a reply to: scraedtosleep

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a reply to: LABTECH767

No apologies needed. I did not even think about the jetstream or climate patters being a big factor, so I relearned something.

China also could decide to go full bonkers, similar to what Israel would do. Comments about how they will take down the whole jew hating world with them, in case they were attacked by unknown forces.

a reply to: Gothmog

Language barrier, I thought you talk about nuclear weapons in general and the climate from back then.

Pakistan will also be watching closely awaiting any weakness from India, or more, if things escalate between China and India.

a reply to: ThatDamnDuckAgain

That is quite possible though in China's defence I would say rather the communist party elite than China whom would perhaps then be a position to lose power to an angry and far more informed Chinese nation should they lose a major war.

Also it is interesting to remember though that the Chinese have built entire empty, unpopulated ultra modern city's with all the infrastructure necessary for moving there command and control to any of these and perhaps many other location's, we know of the city's above ground but what have they built below?, have they been preparing for something for a long time and we simply could not see what they were up to?.
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Even if there major population centres were hit it is possible that China could continue as if nothing had happened using there vast population to just soak up the damage and move there capital to another ready built, more up to date technologically and better connected city that is currently just sitting vacant beyond a small caretaker population.

Of course these could just be runaway communist policy schemes to keep workers working or they could be something more, when China get's moving they can do some very impressive thing's such as that Paris replica complete with an Eifel tower copy, India though having a comparable populace would be much slower to recover so the likely outcome of such a war even if India hit's back well above it's weight would be China as the dominant force unless there leadership fell and internal division's came to the fore which would always remain a possibility.

But on a global scale everyone would lose due to the destructive nature of such a conflict, not least the ordinary people of both nations.

a reply to: scraedtosleep

Not for 4 decades they haven't no. It was around 4 decades ago that an Indian died and the hands of a Chinese soldier, I think it it the same for a Chinese soldier also.

a reply to: scraedtosleep

1975 was the last time I think.

Indian Tweet: Chinese helicopters picking up PLA dead and wounded and evacuating them. They have been allowed to evacuate their dead and wounded.

a reply to: LABTECH767

I always talk about the government if I condemn the action of a country, not their citizens.

Read that the Chinese like to dig tunnels and have a lot of them, these ghost cities are there for a while now and if they do not get used they degrade fast. I heard they did it for growing the economy, not because they really needed them, similar to what you wrote. Have to look into when the first reports started to surface.

I guess everyone going to live there, first needs to be re-educated.

I am waiting for the "official" release of the Chinese number of dead. If the CCP Virus stats say anything we will hear one Chinese soldier broke his finger and another sprained an ankle in the scuffle.

Good on India for taking a stand against the Chinese Communist Party's baseless aggression and empire building.

In an ideal world they would do us all a favour and remove that Contemptible Communist Party from power, but that would be wishful thinking.

a reply to: LABTECH767

Even a “limited” nuclear exchange between China and India would result in thousands, possibly tens of thousands, of dead immediately, plus tens of thousands, if not millions of sick, injured, and soon to die in the aftermath.

It would also means hundreds of thousands to millions of refugees fleeing the affected and uninhabitable areas of both countries. Given the already huge populations in both countries, and the already over-stressed infrastructure in both countries, the likely outcome would be a humanitarian crisis of staggering proportions.

And, not to be callous, but let us not forget that, at least for the next few years, China and India, Both! represent the two largest “links” in the US consumer supply chain.

Whereas populations can, and will, rapidly migrate away from war, famine, and pestilence, factories cannot; they must be rebuilt and their support infrastructure re-established.

That is not likely to happen in a country fighting to recover from even a limited nuclear war, with its population of millions fretting over death, disease, famine, and national upheaval.

“Their” little war could, most likely, would, make the US economic recovery an example of unintended “collateral damage”.

Latest video of the hand to hand fighting

a reply to: Smarties

With the audio being ruffled from what sounds like wind, I couldn't make out if they were throwing stones at each or firing shots when you see spots in the sand lifting up. Until the 1:00 mark, the guy at the bottom must've taken a hit cause he looks man down for keeps.

It would be nice if one day people fkn watched the OP video first.
She says they were falling off the cliff. This would prevent you from posting this vid.
There's not enough of them there. The actual vid from the scene would be extremely graphic. I see a river and no cliff, no metal or bamboo rods with nails.

What I see is nuke-porn and though guys or dumb kids using inappropriate emoticons. It's not funny

UPDATE:

This is no longer a mere 'clash'. Sources have revealed that:
At least 20 Indian troops are already dead. 3 of bullet wounds.
45 have been captured with 25 of that number having been released.
135 Indian troops are injured with some at 303 field hospital and others at GH Leh.

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originally posted by: TortoiseKweek
a reply to: Smarties

With the audio being ruffled from what sounds like wind, I couldn't make out if they were throwing stones at each or firing shots when you see spots in the sand lifting up. Until the 1:00 mark, the guy at the bottom must've taken a hit cause he looks man down for keeps.

Shots were fired apparently. Here is an update I am keeping an eye on what's happened and trying to get more info

This is no longer a mere 'clash'. Sources have revealed that:
At least 20 Indian troops are already dead. 3 of bullet wounds.
45 have been captured with 25 of that number having been released.
135 Indian troops are injured with some at 303 field hospital and others at GH Leh.

twitter.com...

If China and India both have a go at each other, the world will get weaned off of cheap Chinese crap the hard way.

a reply to: ketsuko

Lol, that made me laugh

Just hearing "at least" 20 killed but numbers could rise, they are really trying to play this down as best they can I think to avoid further escalation.