Corona cases spiking up after 2 weeks of protests and easing

originally posted by: CynConcepts
... It does seem that contagious spikes occur when groups gather together indoors rather than outdoors.

Well, indoors makes it worse, but there's a limit to how many people can gather indoors. This was in the open air:

Not much different from the videos of demonstrations that I've seen with people shouting and being in close proximity already or otherwise being channeled as such by the riot police. A few more substandard masks perhaps, for what good they'll do in the minds of the manipulated. No proper PPE around, no eye protection.

Not to mention that black people from poor communities are known to be specifically vulnerable to Covid-19 (Dr. Ban mentions it in this interview). Looks very much a deliberate attempt to add genocide to the mass murder and involuntary manslaughter due to criminal negligence already part of the modus operandi of the manipulated, conditioned, indoctrinated, misled and programmed ones. Especially the global nature of these demonstrations is a big clue that it's planned and deliberate, the timing is no coincidence (to get a few more kills and damage for corona, making it linger on unnecessarily; it's not about a 2nd wave, that's the distracting talking point. It doesn't need to linger on like this, they're milking it for everything it's worth).

And always remember, the damage Covid-19 + "horrible care" can do to all ages*, isn't only death:

Figure 7. The consequences of “steroid” avoidance” [HCQ + quality care avoidance]. CT scan after 23 days of “supportive care” [“horrible care” actually] demonstrating the late fibroproliferative (irreversible) phase of COVID-19 lung disease (Image kindly provide by Dr. Pierre Kory, from NYC).

Source: EVMS_Critical_Care_COVID-19_Protoco l.pdf

Between brackets was mine.
*: ALL ages:

a reply to: StallionDuck

Sources or it didn't happen. And no... You don't get off that easy. I'll expect those sources when you're off work.

Sources.
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Fauci says whatever they pay him to say. He isn't Jordan Peterson.

originally posted by: The2Billies
Yep and the elite liberal politicians don't care at all that massive genocide of the black community may be the result of them actually encouraging and attending the protests/riots/looting and not saying a word about COVID 19, knowing the black community is far more likely to die from it than any other race.

And the census is this year, could that also be tied to it? It would be a conundrum for the Dems, they need the black vote in November, yet they're trying to eliminate blacks? That doesn't make sense. Unless, of course, they're going to try to pin the deaths on Republicans.

originally posted by: Voyaging
it's funny how the "world" will protest a movement hijacked by propaganda, but Hong Kong has been fighting the good fight for over a year yet barely any attention is drawn to it. Where's the world wide protests for that?. a reply to: CriticalStinker

Because it's more trendy to defy perceived or real injustices from the US than it is to point out the undeniable ones from China.

Societal tolerance at times gives me the impression we're supposed to celebrate other societies doing worse than our own just for optics.

I'm critical of the US quite often, and would agree on quite a few topics we have a way to go for me to be happy. But comparing us to China isn't much of a comparison if we're being honest (in most contexts).

originally posted by: HalWesten

originally posted by: The2Billies
Yep and the elite liberal politicians don't care at all that massive genocide of the black community may be the result of them actually encouraging and attending the protests/riots/looting and not saying a word about COVID 19, knowing the black community is far more likely to die from it than any other race.

And the census is this year, could that also be tied to it? It would be a conundrum for the Dems, they need the black vote in November, yet they're trying to eliminate blacks? That doesn't make sense. Unless, of course, they're going to try to pin the deaths on Republicans.

Of course they will, Democrats will pin everything they possibly can that is negative or even make stuff negative to blame Republicans and conservatives. Their latest fairy tale with absolutely no foundation is that Trump will refuse to leave office if Biden is elected. There is no foundation for that at all yet it is all over the news like it is a real thing. Propaganda is their strongest suit and the liberals/progressives/Democrats know how to wield it into a poison pill, they are masters at that.

They see the 66+ million conservatives in the US as evil incarnate, they have made that abundantly clear and twist and blame everything they possibly can on conservatives.

The Democrats hate and loathe nearly half the population of the U.S. with such a deep and abiding hatred they will do anything and I mean anything to destroy us, nothing is beneath them when it comes to destroying close to half the population of the US for disagreeing with their politics.

That has been made abundantly clear, especially during the pandemic. Democratic Governors have made a game out of destroying their economies to destroy Trump by refusing to reopen their economies, while encouraging massive numbers (tens of thousands) to gather in protest and spread the virus. To give them a reason to shut more businesses and make more people unemployed when the black community becomes descimated by the virus? To blame it on Trump and get Biden elected? That appears to be the sinister plan.

a reply to: DoctorBluechip

Slipping out of anyone's control? What makes you think it has been under anyone's control? Have you an evidence that it has been under anyone's control?

It's everywhere from Navy ships to the Bronx zoo to prisons to mink farms in Holland to the White House staff. How can it be said that it's under control?

It will do what other epidemics of the past have done--it will burn fiercely and then eventually subside as the herd immunity factor plays in. The weak will die and the strong will survive and develop immunity in the process.

Not sure if it has been posted yet or not. IHME updated their model yesterday. It shows a decline through the first of August, then the second wave beginning about mid August. With predictions of new cases and deaths heading upward quite fast again.

IHME

America. Are you ready to be played and snookered and treated like low IQ fools again?

Asking for a friend: twitter.com...

a reply to: gortex

lol

no. ATS is not a valid source for the whole country. Only us crazy conspiracy, tin foil hat wearing weirdos.

originally posted by: carewemust
America. Are you ready to be played and snookered and treated like low IQ fools again?

Asking for a friend: twitter.com...

There are also fools with high IQ you know... (high IQ doesn't guarantee wisdom, nor honesty for that matter):

Context:

Psychology: The Art of selling nonsense/contradictions part 1

Philosophy

Definition: The word philosophy is derived from Greek roots that mean “love of wisdom.” As used here, philosophy is not built on acceptance of belief in God, but it tries to give people a unified view of the universe and endeavors to make them critical thinkers. It employs chiefly speculative means rather than observation in a search for truth.

How can any of us acquire true knowledge and wisdom?

Prov. 1:7; Ps. 111:10: “The fear of Jehovah is the beginning of knowledge . . . [and] of wisdom.” (If the universe were not the product of an intelligent Creator but only of some blind, irrational force, then no unified view of the universe would be possible, would it? Nothing that would qualify as wisdom could result from a study of something that was itself irrational, could it? Those who attempt to understand the universe or life itself, while endeavoring to leave God and his purpose out of account, meet with constant frustration. They misinterpret what they learn and misuse facts that they glean. Leaving out of account belief in God destroys the key to accurate knowledge and makes impossible any truly consistent framework of thought.)

Prov. 2:4-7: “If you keep seeking for it as for silver, and as for hid treasures you keep searching for it, in that case you will understand the fear of Jehovah, and you will find the very knowledge of God. For Jehovah himself gives wisdom; out of his mouth there are knowledge and discernment. And for the upright ones he will treasure up practical wisdom.” (Jehovah provides needed help through his written Word and his visible organization. An earnest desire and personal effort, including the use of one’s thinking ability in a constructive manner, are also necessary.)

Is it realistic to expect to find absolute truth from this Source?
...
What is the origin of human philosophies?

They come from people who have limitations: The Bible informs us: “It does not belong to man who is walking even to direct his step.” (Jer. 10:23) History testifies that trying to ignore that limitation has not produced good results. On one occasion, “Jehovah proceeded to answer Job out of the windstorm and say: ‘Who is this that is obscuring counsel by words without knowledge? Gird up your loins, please, like an able-bodied man, and let me question you, and you inform me. Where did you happen to be when I founded the earth? Tell me, if you do know understanding.’” (Job 38:1-4) (Humans by nature have limitations. Additionally, their experience in life is relatively brief and is usually confined to one culture or one environment. The knowledge they possess is thus restricted, and everything is interconnected to such an extent that they constantly find aspects that they had not adequately considered. Any philosophy that they originate will reflect these limitations.)

They are developed by humans who are imperfect: ...

They are influenced by demonic spirits: “The whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one.” (1 John 5:19) “The one called Devil and Satan . . . is misleading the entire inhabited earth.” (Rev. 12:9) “You at one time walked according to the system of things of this world, according to the ruler of the authority of the air, the spirit that now operates in the sons of disobedience.” (Eph. 2:2) (Philosophies that encourage people to disobey God’s wholesome and upright requirements reflect such an influence. No wonder that, as history testifies, human philosophies and schemes have often brought grief to large segments of humankind.)

Why is it an evidence of clear thinking to study the teachings of Jesus Christ instead of human philosophy?

...
Col. 2:8: “Look out: perhaps there may be someone who will carry you off as his prey through the philosophy and empty deception according to the tradition of men, according to the elementary things of the world and not according to Christ.” (What a sad mistake it would be to choose such deceptive human philosophy in preference to acquiring true wisdom as a disciple of Jesus Christ, the second-greatest person in the universe, next to God himself!)

How does God view the “wisdom” offered by human philosophy?

1 Cor. 1:19-25: “It is written: ‘I will make the wisdom of the wise men perish, and the intelligence of the intellectual men I will shove aside.’ Where is the wise man? Where the scribe? Where the debater of this system of things? Did not God make the wisdom of the world foolish? For since, in the wisdom of God, the world through its wisdom did not get to know God, God saw good through the foolishness [as it appears to the world] of what is preached to save those believing. . . . Because a foolish thing of God [as the world views it] is wiser than men, and a weak thing of God [as the world may see it] is stronger than men.” (Such a viewpoint on God’s part is certainly not arbitrary or unreasonable. He has provided in the Bible, the most widely circulated book in the world, a clear statement of his purpose. He has sent his witnesses to discuss it with all who will listen. How foolish for any creature to think that he has wisdom greater than that of God!)

Source: Philosophy (Reasoning From the Scriptures)

To practice the advice mentioned in the article in my signature (think of human philosophy as propaganda), you can give this playlist a try:

Real science, knowledge of realities compared to unverified philosophies and stories

Or for that matter, this one:

Real frontline reports: Help with Corona/Covid-19 treatment: Hydroxychloroquine+Zinc(+Copper 10:1 ratio)+Azithromycin+vitC+D3)

originally posted by: CynConcepts
a reply to: DoctorBluechip

I would fully expect the numbers to increase as testing is more widely available and being done on a larger percentage of the population than in earlier months. The numbers that should be watched is strictly how many are be admitted into hospital beds vs how many beds are available. There is no reason to isolate everyone if the hospitals can viably care for the few more extreme cases that occur.

well, just stop testing! trump was right on this one, the less we test, the less the number of confirmed cases.

originally posted by: TzarChasm
Fauci says whatever they pay him to say. He isn't Jordan Peterson.

Fauci / WHO / Dem Leaders / MSM overplayed their hysteria-hand, during the first wave of this flu-like virus.

Everyone, except the naturally paranoid, are ignoring the Corona-19 hype coming out of the news media this 2nd time around.

a reply to: whereislogic

Exactly. Real Life Experience trumps all the expert's advice...ALL OF IT.

Al Gore like predictions Gortex.

No one oustside of sheep believe anyone even DJT.

DJT just happens to be the one as POTUS stuck with all the liars trying to give the USA to the UN.

YOU NEED YOUR RED PILL dude!

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: DoctorBluechip

Trump supporters only hear Trump so until he says there's a problem there is no problem,let him hold his campaign rallies because he's beaten the "wuflu" then when his supporters start dropping perhaps the penny will drop too...although I doubt it.

Spain eased their lockdown and now they're seeing a spike too, this thing will stalk us until a vaccine is found.

originally posted by: Stupidsecrets
First they said no masks needed. Then masks. Now masks may not help. Then they said that was incorrect. And the vaccine. It was suppose to take almost a year. Now they are saying WORSE than aids and there will likely be no vaccine.

It's total nonsense at this point. Believe whatever FB, Twitter and the media allows you to believe. Believe anything else and you will be silenced.

Great observation!

To hear these fools. we must be a DJT sycophant to not believe FB , Twitter and all the liars, er Scientists models. They have no other rhetoric but to call the truth seekers like us ignorant, haters of mankind and other ridiculous things like the Marxists teach you to do to your enemy. Those Red pills can't be removed from those who have taken them.

I CANT UNSEE the lies they are caught in or I am a fool. If any of you believe Fauci at this point you deserve what happens to you but I don't have to believe the lies and I won't be.



Great post you made!

Remember this was about lowering the need for hospitalization.

Now we're being told cases are spiking, but no one is telling you about hospitalizations. Why is that? Likely because hospitalizations are down.

How nice of you to think things like the actual facts will wake up those "woke" ones.
No amount of truth will suffice when these people wish to believe the people who keep telling them lies and giving them badly collected data that was intended to change the narrative to "Panic!!!"

originally posted by: CynConcepts
a reply to: bender151

Compare the monthly stats with the monthly stats from past years. Everyone seems shocked at the death totals today, but we're not freaked out and panicking in past years due to the death totals of flu, heart disease, and cancer.

Many of the deaths today in those categories are considered covid19 because they happen to test positive for it. It is amazing to see that Covid19 may be a killer, but at the same time it seems to have cured the usually estimated and expected numbers from dying from those other categorical illnesses.

originally posted by: SKEPTEK
a reply to: DoctorBluechip

HOAXVID-19

Gotta keep the hoax alive so that liberals can push for mail in voting and election fraud.

BINGO!

We have BINGO.

Winner winner, chicken dinner!

Keep that hoax alive , keep that hoax alive! (sung to Queens "Keep yourself alive")