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Tony Timpa, the white man that was killed in 2016 by 3 Dallas LEOs like Floyd was killed.

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posted on Jun, 7 2020 @ 07:56 PM
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You probably didn't even know about this case. Which surprisingly is not the only case. But Tony Timpa, a 32 year old white man whom was arrested in 2016, was handcuffed and pinned down in the ground, similar to how Floyd was pinned down, for 13 minutes until he died. Tony even told officers several times "You are going to kill me" and also said "help me, help me..." to which one officer, Dillard, says "we are not going to kill you." Was the intent of these officers to kill Timpa? I doubt it.

The officers, which included an Asian man, and a Hispanic possibly a Mexican male officer, were joking all along. They even joke at the end when officer Dillard, the white officer whom pinned Timpa to the ground with both of his knees on top of Tony Timpa's back compressing his lungs, and Dillard even pressed down the shoulders of Tony constricting his neck until he died.

You can see at the end of the video, when the officers realize Timpa is not moving after Dillard asks "i didn't kill him did I?" and then says "I hope I didn't kill him," how one officer to the left makes a mocking gesture and then the Mexican male officer laughs about it. Did they know Timpa was dead and were still joking about it? They probably hoped he wasn't dead, but still joked about it.

Even when you can clearly see in the video how Timpa's head was blue from a lack of oxygen, the officers continued pinning him down, and joking all along.

Were these officers racists? I guess not since Timpa was white...

So what does this say about the death of Floyd? Was it really premeditated? I don't think so.

Did the officers intent for Timpa to die even when they were pinning him down for 13 minutes? I don't think so.

Unfortunately police officers make mistakes too. Sometimes those mistakes lead to tragedy. But it isn't racism that is fueling these wrongful deaths.

Here is the video of the body camera of an officer showing what happened, which was only released after a long 3 year legal battle for the video to be released finally in 2019.

Here is the video. WARNING GRAPHIC VIDEO SHOWING MAN DYING.



Video shows Dallas police mocking man killed as they pinned him down

Were there massive protests, or even riots because of this? None that I could find. in fact the media was silent when this occurred, and this wasn't the only instance in which "white people" have been wrongly killed by police officers whom made bad decisions.

So why is it that only when the left wants to make a ruckus, and only when they claim it matters do these events invoke "massive protests" and even "riots" and violence en mass in the streets of the U.S.?

edit on 7-6-2020 by ElectricUniverse because: correct link.



posted on Jun, 7 2020 @ 08:04 PM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

There was a thread on this guy a couple days ago... and I already knew about it before that thread. I know of several other cases. Including one yesterday in Tacoma.

But the takeaway here is NOT "See? It happens to White guys too! And Hispanic guys! And Purple Polka Dot guys! So it's ALL GOOD!!!"

No. The takeaway is that this is happening far too often to far too many men and the only ones raising a stink about it are Black people. And their objections and protests are politicized and propagandized and weaponized, which effectively ensures that no one pays attention to the root problem: citizens being executed in the streets by cops with a license to kill.

You're right. Race isn't the problem. Cops killing people is the problem.



posted on Jun, 7 2020 @ 08:15 PM
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a reply to: Boadicea

So your solution is to get rid of the cops, from what I've read lately.

A black man statistically has a better chance of being killed by a lightning strike then die by cop.

As do we all.

Keep in mind, in my particular situation if all cops everywhere went away I wouldn't care.

I'm a big fan of Social Darwinism, after all.

However, I have daughters that live in big cities and that solution would... concern me.

Because of the likely outcome.





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posted on Jun, 7 2020 @ 08:49 PM
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originally posted by: Lumenari
a reply to: Boadicea

So your solution is to get rid of the cops, from what I've read lately.


No, you have not read that from me. My solution is to replace bad cops and bad police departments with good cops and good law enforcement. If that means disbanding an existing police department for something better, then I don't have a problem with that. If that means disbanding an existing police department for the duly elected Sheriff's policing services, I don't have a problem with that. But that's for cities and towns to decide for themselves, according to their needs, circumstances, and resources.


A black man statistically has a better chance of being killed by a lightning strike then die by cop.


Okay. And? So? We have no control over Mother Nature. We do have control over those we hire and charge with law enforcement. There is no excuse to allow bad cops to do bad things to our fellow citizens on our dime.


Keep in mind, in my particular situation if all cops everywhere went away I wouldn't care.

I'm a big fan of Social Darwinism, after all.

However, I have daughters that live in big cities and that solution would... concern me.


Well, then take comfort that the only people I've heard talking about completely eliminating law enforcement are the people determined to fear monger anyone demanding better policing.

Every city and town with a police department also has a duly elected Constitutional Sheriff that has full jurisdiction in their city or town, and full policing powers.

As for your daughters, LEOs will likely be minutes away (at least) when seconds count. I wouldn't suggest relying on police to come save them if they need saving. They need to be able to take care of themselves in the moment. We all do. Even the best police can only do so much.
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posted on Jun, 7 2020 @ 10:09 PM
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originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

There was a thread on this guy a couple days ago... and I already knew about it before that thread. I know of several other cases. Including one yesterday in Tacoma.

But the takeaway here is NOT "See? It happens to White guys too! And Hispanic guys! And Purple Polka Dot guys! So it's ALL GOOD!!!"
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Is that what I wrote ANYWHERE?... No... In fact my point, and that of other ATS members, is that the claim that there is "systemic racism" is a LIE... Or that our LEOs are mostly racists, which again is a lie... There will always be some racists, even among some police officers.

But this is a lie you seemed to agree with the left-wing members in other threads like Gryphon. Whose only interest is to further his socialist goal by proclaiming how "there is systemic racism... and Orange man bad..." You agreed with those members, so don't try to blame me now for your own mistake in believing what is essentially a lie to further the "socialist agenda in the U.S." Meanwhile left-wingers keep on claiming how President Trump is bringing the worse in people whom they claim are all racists..." The fact is the groups that have been furthering the "racial divide" are the left. Plenty of former democrats have been truly "woke" and don't believe these lies anymore.

Yes, this is a problem, but not a "racist problem" and not a "problem caused by right-wingers or President Trump..."





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posted on Jun, 7 2020 @ 10:13 PM
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SO why aren't you guys int the street marching against police violence?

I mean, they see their people being executed by cop, and here's another example.

So the problem is not Black or White or All Lives Matter ... it's a system wide problem with SOME cops.

Let me know when the protest is scheduled.



posted on Jun, 7 2020 @ 10:18 PM
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a reply to: Gryphon66

ROFLMAO, you think we are being paid like SOROS is paying your protests?... No, so there is no way such large mass of people will protest this, more so when your side's only interest is to just further the lie of "systemic racism" and "LEOs are racists...

I see how you attempted to change your argument before your hypocrisy was pointed out... Like the fact that you ignore that "prison reform" has ALWAYS been made worse by democrats, and when President Trump is actually doing good things even for minorities people like you continue claiming how "orange man bad...orange is racist..."

Have you even protested the claims by your socialist comrades whom have been claiming how all "Trump supporters are racists"?... No. Not even in the forums. Because your only goal is to further your socialist agenda.



posted on Jun, 7 2020 @ 10:24 PM
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a reply to: Boadicea

BTW, I didn't even know that there was another thread on this. As I was typing another thread I thought this couldn't be the only case, and searching it on the web is how I found this.

Notice how the video of Tony Timpa's death only garnered a bit over 2 million views, and it's over a year old. But Floyd's death videos have garnered over 10 -13 million views in only a few days... That's because liberals whom control youtube, and other social media like Twitter are not interested in these deaths of non-black people, as their only goal is to further this lie of "systemic racism" so they can use it as an excuse to demand socialism in the U.S.



edit on 7-6-2020 by ElectricUniverse because: correct comment.



posted on Jun, 7 2020 @ 10:30 PM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

So your courage is just not equal to your conviction?

You just wanted to cry about a white man executed by cop?

Unsurprising.

You post the same drivel to each poster you respond to.

Your posts are merely a point of departure for you to rail on about your anti-socialist crusade.

If you're worried about socialism in the US, start working against your fascist buddies who are using the taxpayers funds for corporate welfare.

Betcha don't care.
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posted on Jun, 7 2020 @ 10:33 PM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse


Is that what I wrote ANYWHERE?...


Guilty conscience??? Is that I said you wrote ANYWHERE??? NoPE.


In fact my point, and that of other ATS members, is that the claim that there is "systemic racism" is a LIE...


Got that. You made your point. I made my point. It's a discussion forum. We can all make our own points.


Or that our LEOs are mostly racists, which again is a lie... There will always be some racists, even among some police officers.


Which is basically what I have said repeatedly.


But this is a lie you seemed to agree with the left-wing members in other threads like Gryphon.


Nope. I have never implied, inferred or insinuated any such thing. I have been very clear on that. If you missed it, that's on you.


Whose only interest is to further his socialist goal by proclaiming how "there is systemic racism... and Orange man bad..."


I don't talk about other members. Not cool. And against T&Cs. If I have something to say about them, I will say it to them.

[quote[You agreed with those members, so don't try to blame me now for your own mistake in believing what is essentially a lie to further the "socialist agenda in the U.S."

I have said what I meant and I meant what I said. If you need to mischaracterize my words or take them out of context to suit your purposes, that's on you.


Meanwhile left-wingers keep on claiming how President Trump is bringing the worse in people whom they claim are all racists..." The fact is the groups that have been furthering the "racial divide" are the left. Plenty of former democrats have been truly "woke" and don't believe these lies anymore. Yes, this is a problem, but not a "racist problem" and not a "problem caused by right-wingers or President Trump..."


People say lots of stuff. They don't speak for me. People say lots of stupid stuff. They don't speak for me. Both people on the left AND on the right say lots of stupid stuff. Including and ESPECIALLY Trump. None of them speak for me.

I will say again: This is not a race problem, this is a policing problem. And that is what needs to be addressed, and what all this propaganda you're so fixated on is all about. I'm not going to make piss poor excuses for bad cops -- and especially not murderous cops with depraved hearts -- no matter what anyone else says. I don't care if they're left, right or upside down.



posted on Jun, 7 2020 @ 10:39 PM
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a reply to: Boadicea

Bo, it's not worth your time.

Just skip over ... it's what most folks do.



posted on Jun, 7 2020 @ 10:53 PM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: Boadicea

Bo, it's not worth your time.

Just skip over ... it's what most folks do.


That's probably the best advice I'll get all night.

It's past my bedtime anyway. Gotta get my beauty sleep -- LOL!



posted on Jun, 7 2020 @ 11:20 PM
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In short because we as whites could care less about a white being killed by a cop they as blacks do care about blacks being killed by cops .
Does taht clear up your confusion ?
If it makes you feal better some people black or other wise dont care at all and will use any event to commit crimes .

When whites start caring about whites being killed by cops tehn you will see protest about police brutality for whites and blacks But at this point looks to me like blacks are the only ones who care at all even if 90 % dont enough do to finly get changes made and those changes will ALSO stop the cops killing whites .

Fact is teh onely and ONLY reason you even posted this video is to try and make this a balcks only problem and a blacks bad when whites dont even care about them selfs .
you could care less this white man died heck you could have posted this police killing and alest caused some out rage But that out rage would not be about anything black then .
en.wikipedia.org...



posted on Jun, 7 2020 @ 11:28 PM
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originally posted by: midnightstar
In short because we as whites could care less about a white being killed by a cop they as blacks do care about blacks being killed by cops .
Does taht clear up your confusion ?
If it makes you feal better some people black or other wise dont care at all and will use any event to commit crimes .

When whites start caring about whites being killed by cops tehn you will see protest about police brutality for whites and blacks But at this point looks to me like blacks are the only ones who care at all even if 90 % dont enough do to finly get changes made and those changes will ALSO stop the cops killing whites .

Fact is teh onely and ONLY reason you even posted this video is to try and make this a balcks only problem and a blacks bad when whites dont even care about them selfs .
you could care less this white man died heck you could have posted this police killing and alest caused some out rage But that out rage would not be about anything black then .
en.wikipedia.org...


There's outrage for Floyd's murder because it was caught on camera by very upset and irate civilians. Nothing else, nothing less.

It's unfortunate how Timpa died but there have been numerous deaths like his to black, white and other types of people and either the cops weren't disciplined or the outrage has been muted because it wasn't captured and uploaded to the world while the wounds were fresh.



posted on Jun, 8 2020 @ 12:43 AM
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They watch the murder of this poor guy by police who are laughing and joking about it, apparently aren't disturbed by it, then attack the OP because he's against cops.

I haven't read his other posts and don't really care but that my friends was #ing disturbing. As soon as he stopped responding or moving for 30 seconds or even less, all the officer had to do was let off the pressure on his back. Use one knee instead of two, have a little concern for human life and/or fear of killing someone.

They didn't. In fact, they had the opposite and were laughing about it as the dead man was being hauled off on a stretcher. That was disgusting. Who cares if he were black or white? That is the type of thing that HAS TO STOP and maybe the protests will help with that.

Sure, some of them will still have no regard for human life and it's the exception, not the rule, but I can tell you one thing. They're going to be more careful from now on if the guy is black. That's really the unfortunate point of the protests, to make sure it doesn't happen again.

If it does, what do you suppose the outcome will be?



posted on Jun, 8 2020 @ 12:49 AM
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a reply to: FlyingSquirrel




They're going to be more careful from now on if the guy is black. That's really the unfortunate point of the protests, to make sure it doesn't happen again. 



No they won't, either your really young or just really naive.



posted on Jun, 8 2020 @ 01:02 AM
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originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
a reply to: FlyingSquirrel




They're going to be more careful from now on if the guy is black. That's really the unfortunate point of the protests, to make sure it doesn't happen again. 



No they won't, either your really young or just really naive.


Then this will happen again except worse next time, over and over. Rodney King level riots across the country constantly until society screeches to a halt and the economy suffers. No one will be able to go out or do anything in the cities. Businesses closed, curfews all around, the military in the streets because there aren't enough LEO's in existence to contain the population.

Replies with insults but doesn't explain argument. You're right, im 12 years old.



posted on Jun, 8 2020 @ 01:48 AM
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a reply to: FlyingSquirrel

It wasn't an insult, just look at history it's a window into both the past and the future.



posted on Jun, 8 2020 @ 12:10 PM
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whos against the poster and whos for cops killing people ?
saying this post is about the fact cops killed a person is Not what he was writing what he did was POINT out how when a white a Person is killed . And yes there is A VIDEO no one got out raged and protested .
Other wise he could have posted videos of other blacks or even that white woman as a example of police killing people . The Most important thing to this poster was finding a white video of the same kind of killing and pointing out how there was no protesting . This does NOTHING to farther the fact we have cops killing people .
The one and only thing that matters is the cops being out of control .

AND I pointed out the Fact that making a post POINTING this out makes it once again about a Black man White man and FACT the ONLY time in my life when I have seen protesting is when ITS a Black person man or woman .
In the last 30 years there a 100s of videos of white and black deaths of BOTH sexes ON video of people being killed or brutlised .

Now when any one which Every one is doing makes post pointing it out in this way it is no longer about a bad cop only but about the color of the person who the cop killed or beat . And as Long as the good side uses this to try and make the point the US will never change .

Sometime in the next year a COP will go to the wrong address and KILL a white person and when that happens dont expect blacks to be protesting because UNTILL we give a darn why would they ? BUT if we get out and protest the Blacks will JOIN us i grante it .



posted on Jun, 8 2020 @ 12:14 PM
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lwe need to get involved when ANY person is killed to have any real ground to stand on .
for now it takes a Black person being killed to make any change . BLM
it sure isnt whites caring when the white man was killed .
besides even your replys show how little we care it only matters when there is a video ??
so many have been killed off video and yes protesting has been done .
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