I will never kneel

originally posted by: conspiracy nut
I think police brutality, racism and crime can and should be denounced by everyone.

I'm just curious.

Who hasn't denounced police brutality, racism, crime?

All of that is illegal.

There are laws against all of that.

originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: conspiracy nut

Kneeling signifies surrender, subjugation, and inability. Always has; always will.

TheRedneck

Look, you don't have to take a knee that's fine.

But you have proven to everyone who reads your nonsense that you don't understand the most basic, common sense #, such as context.

Taking a knee in this situation, the context for this tradition came from the sport of football. I'm sorry if it makes you feel like a little bitch, just don't do it.

But not everyone else reads immasculation and subjugation in every little thing with so much neuroticism. What does that tell us about you personally?

You're like one of those guys that thinks that wearing red is a microaggression because red is the color of rage and blood and fire.

It's a little pathetic.

originally posted by: DustDoses

originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: conspiracy nut

Kneeling signifies surrender, subjugation, and inability. Always has; always will.

TheRedneck

Look, you don't have to take a knee that's fine.

Obviously that's not ok and far from good enough, because your ilk keep coming back here trying to intimidate or pressure everyone into complying regardless of personal point of view.

Stop being the bigger B and we're good to go.

a reply to: DBCowboy

Who hasn't denounced police brutality, racism, crime?

I haven't.

All of that is illegal.

That's why I haven't.



It's getting tiresome that people have to decry illegal stuff when it's already against the law.

a reply to: seagull

I don't feel guilty for anything and in this particular case kneeling would represent the kneeling that chauvin did on Floyd's neck. It would represent my acknowledgement of people's anger over that. For me it's not a black vs white thing, I would include the tony timpa death in my acknowledgement as well. I would include officer David dorn in my acknowledgement as well. Wrong is wrong and I denounce injustice and crime no matter who does it to who. I would hope that everyone could at least agree to that.

Police departments which continually harass and injure the innocent and which protect violent criminal offenders who wear a badge.

This is not complicated stuff buddy.

a reply to: DustDoses

Those business owners were innocent.

Many minority owned.

Why don't you kneel for them?

originally posted by: Nyiah

originally posted by: DustDoses

originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: conspiracy nut

Kneeling signifies surrender, subjugation, and inability. Always has; always will.

TheRedneck

Look, you don't have to take a knee that's fine.

Obviously that's not ok and far from good enough, because your ilk keep coming back here trying to intimidate or pressure everyone into complying regardless of personal point of view.

Stop being the bigger B and we're good to go.

Complying with what? What are you talking about?

a reply to: TheRedneck

Agreed They still have my support too

Like you said they have got to stop torpedoing their own message, formulate a real goal and affect meaningful reform. It's a once in a several-decades opportunity that will end up being squandered by loud mouth anarchists and antifa nutjobs and that is a damn shame

For once! Their message is just and near universally supported. Instead of an act of courage that binds us together, radicals have done their usual magic and are actively screwing everything up

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: DustDoses

Those business owners were innocent.

Many minority owned.

Why don't you kneel for them?

Why dont you start your own movement for those small business owners who you care for so deeply?

The reason is you're motivated by spite.

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: DBCowboy

Who hasn't denounced police brutality, racism, crime?

I haven't.

All of that is illegal.

That's why I haven't.

It's getting tiresome that people have to decry illegal stuff when it's already against the law.

Brilliant post!

The only problem is, those who enforce the law are not enforcing it on themselves.

Not complicated stuff here

a reply to: DustDoses

I am pretty spiteful about what those brownshirts did last week against people that had nothing to do with the cops.

And so what ?

Definitely not going to be getting on my knees for a bunch of sniphats like that.

a reply to: DustDoses

Who arrested Chauvin and his buddies? Police officers.

Who will transport them to court and prison if convicted? Police officers.

Who will stand guard to ensure their right to a trial by jury procedes without violence? Police officers.

There are still racist people, there are cops that still practice police brutality and there are protesters that justify rioting and looting. I stand in solidarity against those people.

a reply to: conspiracy nut

Agree with this entirely

a reply to: Liquesence

Difference was they knelt in prayer before the Great Architect of the Universe, not in submission to any human beings.

Amita Health

I commend the spirit of standing with those that feel oppressed. I have a very hard time looking at a Christian Hospital staff kneeling with their backs to the cross for an organization that is wreaking havoc across the country. I believe in equality. I do not feel I am better or worse than anyone else, but this imagery really bothers me

a reply to: DBCowboy

I wish you would have shared my entire post to get the greater context of what I was expressing. Do you agree with the rest of what I was saying or did you just cherry pick 1 sentence to be a contradictory?

originally posted by: conspiracy nut
a reply to: TheRedneck

I don't think all police are bad and I don't think all protesters are bad. It is my stance is that back the blue and BLM have some valid arguments and opinions that should be shared and expressed without either side getting offended. I think police brutality, racism and crime can and should be denounced by everyone. I'd kneel, shake hands, march with, dance with you etc etc whatever symbol of mutual agreement you would be comfortable doing is fine with me. Using the term opposing sides was a bad choice of words. I hope you get where I'm coming from now.

I wish people would realize that the terrible things that have happened are already illegal and that if laws are not being followed, then it is up to us to elect those officials to see that laws are followed.

Kneeling to BLM, is (in my opinion) pandering and not focused on actually fixing the problem.

Might as well "hashtag" a feeling or something. That will accomplish just as much as kneeling is doing.



. . . . There.

Your whole quote.

originally posted by: DustDoses

originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: conspiracy nut

Kneeling signifies surrender, subjugation, and inability. Always has; always will.

TheRedneck

Look, you don't have to take a knee that's fine.

But you have proven to everyone who reads your nonsense that you don't understand the most basic, common sense #, such as context.

Taking a knee in this situation, the context for this tradition came from the sport of football. I'm sorry if it makes you feel like a little bitch, just don't do it.

But not everyone else reads immasculation and subjugation in every little thing with so much neuroticism. What does that tell us about you personally?

You're like one of those guys that thinks that wearing red is a microaggression because red is the color of rage and blood and fire.

It's a little pathetic.

So, you start out with "you don't have to take a knee that's fine" and then go into long diatribe basically berating him for being too stupid to not understand why he should?

Yeah, I think it's not fine for him to not take a knee as far as you're concerned, and that's precisely why none of us want to. You have so very much invested in us doing it.

And you're right in that the context came from football, but it came from Colin Kaeprnick who was not kneeing it out in victory formation. Whatever he intended, the message came out something else - disrespect.