Chile is rioting over food

It's sad but somewhat funny that it seems our only source for international news reporting here in the United States is a Russian news organization.

Bezos you hear dat? yer fancy amazon trucks n planes...

a reply to: new_here

hard to find any news reports on this
nothing in Reuters, which surprises me

here's a Bloomberg report
www.bloomberg.com...

Pinera’s administration is grappling with the virus following a period of social upheaval against inequality and poor government services that started last October. Pinera initially called in troops to quell last year’s unrest before agreeing to measures including a plebiscite on a new constitution.

this might just be a continuation of ongoing unrest in certain areas, not a national breakdown.

originally posted by: anonentity

Well, at least some of the rioters are wearing face masks.

a reply to: CrazeeWorld777
Its not only a currency issue, the food is not there to be bought.

originally posted by: a325nt

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: PraetorianAZ
I know this will never happen in America. We have too many guns and the government knows we will hang them all if we start starving. Too bad Chile doesn't have an armed populace.

You'll hang them, with your guns?

What if they shoot back? I mean, them and their armies?

The armies of combat trained citizens?
You think the US army would follow orders to fire on their own families?

Some might, but they'd quickly be torn to shreds by the rest of the military men.

Just like your local cops, when things get bad, people will defend them and theirs over all else.

Well, US government forces have fired on unarmed citizens before:

- The Bonus Army (protesting US War Veterans shot by police at the order of the government)
- The Battle of Blair Mountain (1 million rounds fired from Browning machine guns at protesting coal miners)
- The Kent State shootings (4 students dead, 9 others wounded)
- The Los Angeles riots (in 1992, rioting due to acquittal of the police officers who killed Rodney King, 63 killed, 2,383 injured)

Clearly, if you think that the better nature of the armed forces would save you, you'd be dead.

If someone were to fire off a shot, then the government troops would return fire. The confrontation between two armed groups are sure to end in multiple deaths, especially if the use of deadly force is authorized. Armed revolt would be put down ruthlessly and the guns would lead to more deaths, rather than defending from it.

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: chr0naut

they will cower in fear of our black scary rifles, just as your government did.

Hang 'em by the trigger guard!



And, I think, that the NZ government is not cowering in fear of firearms. The police and armed forces still carry, as do some citizens.

The ones who fear guns are those who are incapable of action to prevent the death toll.

It'll be so cute when we start seeing similar posts about us here in the U.S. of Israel.

Because people didn't listen.
Because people didn't fight back for liberty.
Because people decided to make it about partisan politics instead of realizing they are ALL a part of the NWO plot against us.

If you gave a piano to UPS and told them to deliver it to a monks cave in Tibet , it would get there. I don't see how aid can't be sent to them just like if there was a natural disaster. I think some food shortages have political agendas.

a reply to: korath

A lot of times, it's what happens after it gets to those countries. There is indeed plenty sent. Sometimes, it's not even those other countries. Does anyone recall the warehouses full of relief supplies that had been sent to Puerto Rico that were never sent anywhere so the local politicos could make anti-president statements about how they had no relief?

originally posted by: korath
If you gave a piano to UPS and told them to deliver it to a monks cave in Tibet , it would get there. I don't see how aid can't be sent to them just like if there was a natural disaster. I think some food shortages have political agendas.

the local warlords snap it up and eat it themselves or sell on black market.

UN got to the point they were insisting on escorting their deliveries. (pretty bad when the UN stands up and asserts itself)

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: PraetorianAZ
I know this will never happen in America. We have too many guns and the government knows we will hang them all if we start starving. Too bad Chile doesn't have an armed populace.

You'll hang them, with your guns?

What if they shoot back? I mean, them and their armies?

There are a little more than 2.2 million active and reserve personnel in the armed forces of the United States.

Something like 440,000 of these are locally based Army and Air National Guard personnel. The commander of each state's Guard units reports to his or her state‘s governor.

Department of Justice stats are confusing; I see estimates of the total number of federal law enforcement officers ranging from 100,000 to 132,000.

So if my stats are close to accurate, there are at most about 2.33 million federal personnel with at least some weapons training.

U.S. citizens own about 46 percent of all the world’s small arms in private hands — 393 million firearms, or 120 per 100 U.S. residents.

Gallup and Pew Research say 30 percent of adult Americans own firearms. Of the 330 million folks living in America, a little over three-fourths are 18 or over.

Let’s say 300 million residents here are Americans, which equates to about 225 million adults. Thirty percent of that is 67.5 million American adults with at least one firearm. They own billions of rounds of ammunition, and they possess enough firearms to arm every man, woman and child.

Even the armed forces of the United States — the most powerful and capable in the history of the world — has problems dealing with armed peasants. And these peasants, who give our forces a lot of grief, are much less technically and mechanically capable than your average American. They’re also less educated and have far less access to motor vehicles and communications devices.

America is enormous, big as a continent, with just about every kind of terrain and climactic condition imaginable. Urban areas, where most Americans live, present tremendous difficulties for even the best trained and equipped armies. Think of all those windows, doors, rooms, floors, corners and parked and moving vehicles from which ambushers and snipers can operate. I’d hate to be a U.S. soldier moving through a U.S. city revolting from the federal government. And lots of citizens have rifle scopes and night vision gear. Nightmare scenario for a soldier.

Millions of Americans are hunters, military veterans, or have concealed carry certification training. Millions more simply like to shoot at private gun ranges, or play paintball games. The FBI estimates there are more than 30,000 gangs in the USA, including street gangs and motorcycle gangs.

Many Americans, as you may have noticed, are kind of violent or macho. Toxic masculinity some call it. American football, which is more like warfare than any other team sport I know of, is our most popular spectator sport, and tens of millions of Americans have been on football teams at one time or another.

I don’t know about your country, but our TV, film and video games are saturated with violence. A typical American boy sees thousands of simulated deaths by the time he’s 18, and it’s easy to see the real thing on the Internet. In other words, a lot of Americans are not uncomfortable or unfamiliar with violence.

There are roughly 700,000 local and state law enforcement officers in America who are not employed by the federal government and not subject to the authority of the armed forces. Most have regular firearms training and are equipped with paramilitary gear such as body armor, personal radios, automatic weapons, etc.

Finally, U.S. armed forces members are all volunteers. I can’t imagine them blindly obeying an order to shoot their fellow Americans. Now if they were under attack or innocent civilians were being attacked, I can imagine them using lethal force on Americans.

But don’t think for a minute that the U.S. military could easily intimidate or subdue America’s civilian population. It would have to use measures it won’t even use against Islamic State or the Taliban, like indiscriminate bombing of civilian areas with no regard for collateral damage.

originally posted by: Scapegrace

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: PraetorianAZ
I know this will never happen in America. We have too many guns and the government knows we will hang them all if we start starving. Too bad Chile doesn't have an armed populace.

You'll hang them, with your guns?

What if they shoot back? I mean, them and their armies?

There are a little more than 2.2 million active and reserve personnel in the armed forces of the United States.

... snip for brevity ...

Finally, U.S. armed forces members are all volunteers. I can’t imagine them blindly obeying an order to shoot their fellow Americans. Now if they were under attack or innocent civilians were being attacked, I can imagine them using lethal force on Americans.

But don’t think for a minute that the U.S. military could easily intimidate or subdue America’s civilian population. It would have to use measures it won’t even use against Islamic State or the Taliban, like indiscriminate bombing of civilian areas with no regard for collateral damage.

They've done it before, opening fire on citizens. Some of them unarmed.

They'd use bombs, machine guns, drones, and artillery.

a reply to: new_here

Some billionaire could work out a solution to get the goods to the people in need. They would be the world's heroes. They have the means. It hurts my soul.

He's working on a vaccine right now. But as soon as the worlds population is
down to around five hundred million. I'm sure the Gates of hell will open
generously.

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: Scapegrace

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: PraetorianAZ
I know this will never happen in America. We have too many guns and the government knows we will hang them all if we start starving. Too bad Chile doesn't have an armed populace.

You'll hang them, with your guns?

What if they shoot back? I mean, them and their armies?

There are a little more than 2.2 million active and reserve personnel in the armed forces of the United States.

... snip for brevity ...

Finally, U.S. armed forces members are all volunteers. I can’t imagine them blindly obeying an order to shoot their fellow Americans. Now if they were under attack or innocent civilians were being attacked, I can imagine them using lethal force on Americans.

But don’t think for a minute that the U.S. military could easily intimidate or subdue America’s civilian population. It would have to use measures it won’t even use against Islamic State or the Taliban, like indiscriminate bombing of civilian areas with no regard for collateral damage.

They've done it before, opening fire on citizens. Some of them unarmed.

They'd use bombs, machine guns, drones, and artillery.

I’m saying the U.S. military can’t possibly defeat the people of the United States, not that I’d expect the armed forces to attempt something that hopeless. Those bombs, machine guns, drones and artillery you mention are almost entirely made in the United States. The feds would have to convince or coerce the factory workers to continue making them, and find a way to get them to the troops. And food producers would have to be willing to sell to the feds and truckers would have to deliver the food. Trains are vulnerable to sabotage, and railroad workers would have to be willing to operate them. I just don’t see how the feds could subdue the entire nation. And I don’t think most of the soldiers, Marines and airmen would be willing to wage war on fellow Americans unless they were directly threatening them or innocent people.

a reply to: chr0naut

I think a lot of service members wouldn't follow orders to fire on hungry Americans, but some certainly would.

You can raise those odds a bit with a little psychological manipulation. For example, if I'm the despot-of-the-day, I send the troops from Georgia to Southern California, the troops from California to West Virginia, the troops from West Virginia to Utah, the troops from Utah and Wyoming to New Jersey and so on.

With all the purposeful division created by 50 years of thoroughly corrupt politics and media, I feel like I'd get better results out of people who had very little in common with one another.

Of course, I hope the first Marine I ordered to fire on his countrymen would shoot me in the freakin' head...

Its weird to think that Chile is having these problems. I was in Chile for a little while on the way to Argentina maybe 20 years ago. Beautiful people, beautiful place, and things were seemingly plentiful. Very welcoming and decent population. Of course they have their issues with druglords/warlords... but Ive read and seen myself ( like in Colombia) that the "lords" most times come to the aid of the people. An above poster was saying the warlords were getting the food and selling it on the black market. Thats really a turn of culture. I guess a hell of a lot has changed in 20 years.

a reply to: chr0naut

In heavily military areas like mine... theyd be firing on their own families. Wouldnt happen. Besides, I dont see the federal govt forcing the military to do this. Theyd TRY to get local law enforcement that they have outfitted with MRAPs and military grade hardware to do it.. but even they know.. active duty, retired, contractors, operators, DoD, etc are pretty thick around here. We are better trained and and have a greater advantage.. considering that for years now, urban combat has been ingrained. There is ( thank God) a disconnect between the government paper pushers and the mil command.

Do you know what Ruby Ridge and Waco taught some folks ? To shoot first.


Edit to add : ALso.. after a local law enforcement failure.. it would go to state police, US Marshalls and FBI ( just like RR and Waco) .. and they know best of all what sort of silent army is out here.