Study Shows 6.3 Million People Could Develop Tuberculosis Because of Coronavirus Lockdown

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: Sookiechacha

It's nice to know you think Covid-19 doesn't extend outside the US and no one else in the world is being affected. Allow me to correct you, it does.

From the OP

So now that more people are predicted to die from the lockdown of just one disease (which doesnt take into account other diseases, malnutrition, poverty, over doses, etc.) than have currently died of coronavirus, and the lockdowns takeaway our rights and are destroying the economy, why should we continue with it?

Seems to me like he's talking about the US economy and US citizen rights, that we as Americans should wonder "Why should we continue with it?"

a reply to: Sookiechacha

I’m talking word wide

Why should anyone in any area of the world accept an infringement on their rights and destruction of the economy by forcing a lockdown of it will kill millions of people and there is no evidence it is saving more than it will kill?

a reply to: Grambler

perhaps i missed it, but how does a stay at home order create TB in otherwise healthy people?

a reply to: Grambler

if all of these people are ignoring the lockdown orders, why isn’t their per capita deaths much worse than countries that are locked down??

Because they're not testing.

The tb outbreak will be caused by the economic fallout and failure to treat tb now by medical professionals because of fear of coronavirus, not regular people ignoring lockdown orders

So, the huge TB outbreaks in Bangladesh and the Philippines are at those large numbers because they've been so good at testing and treating TB?

originally posted by: subfab
a reply to: Grambler

perhaps i missed it, but how does a stay at home order create TB in otherwise healthy people?

It destroys the economy and medical availability to treat TB for people who need it.

Counter question: how does a lock down that focuses on locking down everyone including healthy people that statistically do not have much of a chance of dying from the coronavirus at the expense of the most vulnerable make any sense?

did you read the article?

TB treatments will be suspended for months because of the lockdown, which will cause the increased deatrhs.

a reply to: Sookiechacha

a reply to: Grambler

"Counter question: how does a lock down that focuses on locking down everyone including healthy people that statistically do not have much of a chance of dying from the coronavirus at the expense of the most vulnerable make any sense?"

it doesn't
it never has made sense to me.

originally posted by: subfab
a reply to: Grambler

"Counter question: how does a lock down that focuses on locking down everyone including healthy people that statistically do not have much of a chance of dying from the coronavirus at the expense of the most vulnerable make any sense?"

it doesn't
it never has made sense to me.

exactly

a reply to: Grambler

you know what makes even less sense?
how quickly people will get angry at you for questioning the quarantine.
i fear the panic more than i fear the virus.

a reply to: Grambler

TB treatments will be suspended for months because of the lockdown, which will cause the increased deatrhs.

In theory, according to the article. But, in which countries? The article doesn't say which countries have suspended TB testing and treatment, due to CV.

That certainly isn't the case in the USA, Australia, the UK or any of the developed European countries. Their health care systems are overwhelmed by CV, but doctors are still treating and hospital are still taking life threatening cases of all kinds, including respiratory illnesses like TB, lung cancer, strokes, kidney failure and heart attacks.

If TB tests and treatments are being suspended in places like Bangladesh, Kenya or Russia, where there are the most TB cases, that's not on US leadership.

You might add, because of Coronavirus lockdown it damages our immune response to several viruses. The 2nd wave will hit hard on those who continue to be on lock-down.

originally posted by: subfab
a reply to: Grambler

you know what makes even less sense?
how quickly people will get angry at you for questioning the quarantine.
i fear the panic more than i fear the virus.

That was the point of this thread.

When many of us questioned the quarantine, we were told we valued freedom or the economy over lives. Even when we said the lockdown would kill people, we were told we couldnt question it.

So turn about is fair play. The high and mighty supporters of the lockdown that said those who questioned it wanted people to die now themselves know experts are predicting peopkle to die as a result of the lockdowns, and by their own logic they want those people to die.

Perhaps this will make them hesitate before accusing those who merely want to question huge infringements on the economy and our rights as wanting people to die.


Ah who am I kidding, they will almost all be hypocrites that dont care about the double standard,

a reply to: Grambler

I think more will starve.

The entire world food supply is in shambles.

a reply to: Grambler

Perhaps this will make them hesitate before accusing those who merely want to question huge infringements on the economy and our rights as wanting people to die.

It's not about wanting people to die. It's about not caring if people die.

The meat packaging plants for example. Trump ordered them to open, but suspended his and the CDC's guidelines for them, and now only requires these plants to do testing of employees on a voluntary basis, or if it's feasible for the company do implement them in the first place.

In the meantime, if employees don't feel safe, and don't go to work anyway, they will lose their job and their unemployment, meant to help them through this pause. And, Mitch McConnell wants Congress to pass a law protecting employers who don't follow CDC guidelines, don't offer effective PPE and don't require testing, from getting sued by sick employees and/or their families, forced to work under unsafe conditions.

"They", not you personally, don't care about the workers and their families, they care about the economy.

Didn't NY Gov Cuomo say today that people being "locked down" in the house seemed to increase the likely-hood of contracting Covid-19?

a reply to: Grambler

If people are locked down, how are they catching TB? Or any other communicable illness for that matter. I would think there will be less of all of them... colds, flu, covid, whatever. If people are cheating at locking down, they're still less exposed than normal to stuff, with their half-assed lock down.

Now some would say their immune system might weaken over not being challenged, grow complacent so to speak, and we should all be careful when things get back into full swing. But I fail to see how TB will spread during lockdown. How's it getting from person to person if people aren't mingling? Crawling thru the door, haha?

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: Grambler

if all of these people are ignoring the lockdown orders, why isn’t their per capita deaths much worse than countries that are locked down??

Because they're not testing.

The tb outbreak will be caused by the economic fallout and failure to treat tb now by medical professionals because of fear of coronavirus, not regular people ignoring lockdown orders

So, the huge TB outbreaks in Bangladesh and the Philippines are at those large numbers because they've been so good at testing and treating TB?

Bam...you just solved it.
Dont test and Sars Covid will go away...like magic

originally posted by: carewemust
Didn't NY Gov Cuomo say today that people being "locked down" in the house seemed to increase the likely-hood of contracting Covid-19?

People crammed together in a house (poverty) will transmit whatever people have in the house
1 person gets it, they all get it without a doubt. Same with flu during wintertime when its too damn cold to go out

No good solution here. Those same people can go out and start coughing in a TGIFridays or nightclub and infect a hell of a lot more people though.

foods containing benzoic acid or sodium benzoate can help to stop you from getting TB. Oranges and orange juice, cinnamon, tomatoes, some berries, and other stuff has benzoic acid. It won't help you much if you got it full blown, but will deter you getting it. The meds to treated TB with utilized benzene chemistry to kill the virus. It was the first real successful way of social engineering the public to consume foods of a certain chemistry to get rid of a disease plagueing the people. Tomatoes and oranges became good food for people and they started using sodium benzoate as a preservative more...it is even in root beer and cream soda.

originally posted by: SaturnFX

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: Grambler

if all of these people are ignoring the lockdown orders, why isn’t their per capita deaths much worse than countries that are locked down??

Because they're not testing.

The tb outbreak will be caused by the economic fallout and failure to treat tb now by medical professionals because of fear of coronavirus, not regular people ignoring lockdown orders

So, the huge TB outbreaks in Bangladesh and the Philippines are at those large numbers because they've been so good at testing and treating TB?

Bam...you just solved it.
Dont test and Sars Covid will go away...like magic

Is that what you think I was advocating?