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A paper from 2015 warned about the coronavirus while Obama cut funding

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posted on May, 3 2020 @ 07:27 PM
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Scientist warned about the coronavirus in 2015 and said we need vaccines in case of a pandemic. You will not here about this in the media, but the Obama administration cut funding that would have allowed researh into vaccines for the coronavirus in 2015. Here's the paper.


New SARS-like virus can jump directly from bats to humans, no treatment available
Findings provide an opportunity to develop drugs and vaccines for coronaviruses before they emerges from animals to cause a human epidemic


The discovery, reported in the Nov. 9 issue of Nature Medicine, is notable not only because there is no treatment for this newly discovered virus, but also because it highlights an ongoing debate over the government's decision to suspend all gain of function experiments on a variety of select agents earlier this year. The move has put a substantial standstill on the development of vaccines or treatments for these pathogens should there be an outbreak.


www.sciencedaily.com...

Here's some headlines from 2015.

Obama’s budget cuts $50 million from a vaccine program for the underinsured

fortune.com...

Why Obama’s Budget Cuts $50 Million From National Vaccine Program


President Obama has proposed a $50-million cut to a federal immunization program, citing diminished need for government-funded vaccinations thanks to the Affordable Care Act.


abcnews.go.com...

This may be the president's most unfortunately timed proposal, coming as a measles outbreak has topped 100 cases and sparked concern about parents who refuse to inoculate their children. Obama's budget calls for a $50 million cut, or about 8 percent, to what is known as the 317 Immunization Program, which helps uninsured families receive vaccines and funds the government's response to disease outbreaks that stem from lack of immunizations. Melanie Roussell, an administration spokeswoman, said Monday that because more children are insured as a result of the Affordable Care Act, there is less of a need for vaccines through the 317 program. But L.J. Tan of the Immunization Action Coalition points out that the program supports much more than vaccines for children: It also funds the "surveillance" that the government is now relying on to track the measles outbreak and make sure that the contacts of infected patients are immunized from the virus. "We can't lose the rest of the stuff the program does just because we have one problem solved," Tan said on Monday. The $611 million budgeted for the 317 program this year is already less than the $970 million recommended by the CDC, he added.

www.theatlantic.com...

This goes back even further. The paper talks about gain of function experiments. Obama put a pause on these experiments that might have led to a coronavirus vaccine. Trump lifted the moratorium on these experiments in 2017.

Despite these important potential benefits, GOF research (GOFR) can pose risks regarding biosecurity and biosafety. In 2014 the administration of US President Barack Obama called for a “pause” on funding (and relevant research with existing US Government funding) of GOF experiments involving influenza, SARS, and MERS viruses in particular.

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...

This is huge.

Here's the statement on this released from the Obama White House.

Because the deliberative process launching today will aim to address key questions about the risks and benefits of gain-of-function studies, during the period of deliberation, the U.S. Government will institute a pause on funding for any new studies that include certain gain-of-function experiments involving influenza, SARS, and MERS viruses. Specifically, the funding pause will apply to gain-of-function research projects that may be reasonably anticipated to confer attributes to influenza, MERS, or SARS viruses such that the virus would have enhanced pathogenicity and/or transmissibility in mammals via the respiratory route.

During this pause, the U.S. Government will not fund any new projects involving these experiments and encourages those currently conducting this type of work – whether federally funded or not – to voluntarily pause their research while risks and benefits are being reassessed. The funding pause will not apply to the characterization or testing of naturally occurring influenza, MERS, and SARS viruses unless there is a reasonable expectation that these tests would increase transmissibility or pathogenicity.


obamawhitehouse.archives.gov...

Here's an article from December 2017. Under Trump, these experiments were allowed to resume but sadly this is a case of to little too late.

Feds lift gain-of-function research pause, offer guidance


The National Institutes of Health (NIH) today lifted a 3-year moratorium on funding gain-of-function (GOF) research on potential pandemic viruses such as avian flu, SARS, and MERS, opening the door for certain types of research to resume.


www.cidrap.umn.edu...

So trying to blame Trump is just Trump Derangement Syndrome.

The Obama administration cut and in some cases stopped funding to programs that would have given us a vaccine for coronavirus.



posted on May, 3 2020 @ 07:31 PM
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Zero messed up everything he touched.



posted on May, 3 2020 @ 07:57 PM
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Incorrect. This is all Trumps fault.

He's orange and sometimes hurts peoples feelings. Oh, and he's rich and of European descent.



posted on May, 3 2020 @ 08:35 PM
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Obama sucked. I wish I would not have voted for him in the first term election now. I did not vote at all in his second term election.



posted on May, 3 2020 @ 08:41 PM
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President Obama has proposed a $50-million cut to a federal immunization program, citing diminished need for government-funded vaccinations thanks to the Affordable Care Act.

Really ?
The ACA was a catch-all , cure all for everything?
He had a lot of faith in PelosiCare.



posted on May, 3 2020 @ 09:34 PM
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Seems to me that the Obama administration had stopped this research because of the risks of gain-of-function studies, the kind of studies that cause the virus to infect other species like Homo Sapiens. Not like that mattered, they just jobbed it out to Wuhan China when it couldn't get done here. Then for some reason, just before the out break, this administration allows the gain-of-function studies to resume in the States.

Perhaps the Trump administration didn't want this type of dangerous research conducted in a Chinese lab with a history of sloppy protocols. Not to mention the certainty that the Chinese will steal the research. Trump probably wondered why weren't we doing this here in our labs where it would be in our hands, not theirs.
edit on 3-5-2020 by MichiganSwampBuck because: Added extra comments



posted on May, 3 2020 @ 10:13 PM
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a reply to: neoholographic
That was quite a leap.

The cut to the national vaccine program had nothing to do with research. It was cutting out kids that would then be covered by ACA. It is explained in the link provided in the fortune article.

The 317 program has evolved over time to fill gaps and address priorities in our vaccine programs. As ACA is implemented, more individuals will have coverage for vaccines through both public and private insurance, and nearly all children will be covered through VFC or private insurance.


It was not a cut to programs that would have given you a vaccine for coronavirus.

edit on 3-5-2020 by daskakik because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 3 2020 @ 10:27 PM
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originally posted by: daskakik
a reply to: neoholographic
That was quite a leap.

The cut to the national vaccine program had nothing to do with research. It was cutting out kids that would then be covered by ACA. It is explained in the link provided in the fortune article.

The 317 program has evolved over time to fill gaps and address priorities in our vaccine programs. As ACA is implemented, more individuals will have coverage for vaccines through both public and private insurance, and nearly all children will be covered through VFC or private insurance.


It was not a cut to programs that would have given you a vaccine for coronavirus.


Of course it did. Did you even read what the scientist said?

The discovery, reported in the Nov. 9 issue of Nature Medicine, is notable not only because there is no treatment for this newly discovered virus, but also because it highlights an ongoing debate over the government's decision to suspend all gain of function experiments on a variety of select agents earlier this year. The move has put a substantial standstill on the development of vaccines or treatments for these pathogens should there be an outbreak.

www.sciencedaily.com...

They're talking about the coronavirus back in 2015. Obama cut funding and stopped any gain of function research for 3 years. Again, the scientist said:

the government's decision to suspend all gain of function experiments on a variety of select agents earlier this year. The move has put a substantial standstill on the development of vaccines or treatments for these pathogens should there be an outbreak.

I know there's always an excuse for Obama.



posted on May, 3 2020 @ 10:40 PM
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a reply to: neoholographic

Here's the thing though -

Gain of function studies were cut not because there wasn't the money to fund them so much as because they weren't safe.


Back in October 2014, the US government had placed a federal moratorium on gain-of-function (GOF) research – altering natural pathogens to make them more deadly and infectious – as a result of rising fears about a possible pandemic caused by an accidental or deliberate release of these genetically engineered monster germs.

This was in part due to lab accidents at the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) in July 2014 that raised questions about biosafety at US high-containment labs.


In other words, we had been doing the research ourselves, but *we* nearly screwed the pooch the way they did in Wuhan.

But we weren't content to let it lie. Instead, a group led by Dr. Fauci outsourced the GOF studies to a certain lab in China and secured ongoing US funding for them. And guess which lab it was, what those studies were for, and where we are today?

I guess the real debate is: If we felt it wasn't safe enough to do gain of function research in the US, then what on earth possessed us to outsource it to China? Or was it felt that nothing that got out in China could possibly come back to bite us in the butt?



posted on May, 3 2020 @ 10:50 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko

You answered your own question:

I guess the real debate is: If we felt it wasn't safe enough to do gain of function research in the US, then what on earth possessed us to outsource it to China? Or was it felt that nothing that got out in China could possibly come back to bite us in the butt?

It had nothing to do with the dangers of gain of function experiments. They didn't fund them for 3 years. It was the Obama's administration's attitude toward vaccine funding.

It was cheaper to outsource it to places like China. They also cut funding to the National Vaccine Program.

They felt you only needed to do research into kids vaccines and current flu vaccines through the ACA. This was a huge mistake but of course Obama will never be called out for it.

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posted on May, 3 2020 @ 10:56 PM
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a reply to: neoholographic

Gain of function work is important to certain aspects of vaccine production though honestly. When you are working with vaccines, you have to test them against pathogen to prove efficacy. At that point, it is useful to be able to use a range of pathogen strains to test against, stronger and weaker strains of your actual target just to show that your product works as advertised, so a certain amount of GOF is useful.

I think the issue is doing GOF function of a pathogen before you know how to effectively treat it. In the case of most vaccines, we already have a functional product, but we're trying to to improve upon it somehow. Or you're working with an organism that you can much more easily control in a lab.

This is a difficult virus to contain. Obviously, if people can walk around with it and not even know they're ill, it moves very effectively through the population until it does find a target it can kill. We're fortunate it turned out to be far less dangerous than it was originally thought it would be.

It's already plenty bad enough for the high risk groups, now imagine a higher risk pathogen for everyone else.



posted on May, 3 2020 @ 10:57 PM
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a reply to: neoholographic
But the fortune article wasn't talking about that. Why post it?

And, as ketsuko pointed out, GOF studies were not cut off because Obama cut funding.



posted on May, 3 2020 @ 11:03 PM
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a reply to: daskakik

That's why i posted it because it was about funding. That's why GOF experiments were stopped under Obama for 3 years. It was cheaper to outsource it to China. They also cut the budget of the national vaccine program.

This shows there attitudes towards vaccine funding.

It was cheaper to do minimum research on vaccines through the ACA>

Scientist talking about the coronavirus complained about this in 2015.

The discovery, reported in the Nov. 9 issue of Nature Medicine, is notable not only because there is no treatment for this newly discovered virus, but also because it highlights an ongoing debate over the government's decision to suspend all gain of function experiments on a variety of select agents earlier this year. The move has put a substantial standstill on the development of vaccines or treatments for these pathogens should there be an outbreak.

Of course you will keep trying to make excuses for Obama.



posted on May, 3 2020 @ 11:07 PM
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a reply to: neoholographic
But the cut to the national vaccine program was already explained. It was just shifted. It is neither here nor there, in regards to the end of the GOF studies.

Is any research funded through ACA?

Who is making excuses? He wasn't my president.



posted on May, 3 2020 @ 11:24 PM
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a reply to: daskakik

It was about the budget. It saved money. That's why they cut the budget. That was a mistake and shows you the attitude Obama had towards vaccine research.

I know you want to keep making excuses for Obama. Let's look at what the Obama administration said about this.

Because the deliberative process launching today will aim to address key questions about the risks and benefits of gain-of-function studies, during the period of deliberation, the U.S. Government will institute a pause on funding for any new studies that include certain gain-of-function experiments involving influenza, SARS, and MERS viruses. Specifically, the funding pause will apply to gain-of-function research projects that may be reasonably anticipated to confer attributes to influenza, MERS, or SARS viruses such that the virus would have enhanced pathogenicity and/or transmissibility in mammals via the respiratory route.

During this pause, the U.S. Government will not fund any new projects involving these experiments and encourages those currently conducting this type of work – whether federally funded or not – to voluntarily pause their research while risks and benefits are being reassessed. The funding pause will not apply to the characterization or testing of naturally occurring influenza, MERS, and SARS viruses unless there is a reasonable expectation that these tests would increase transmissibility or pathogenicity.


obamawhitehouse.archives.gov...

From the Obama White Hous archives.

It was about funding. They didn't end all GOF experiments just ones in these areas:

the U.S. Government will institute a pause on funding for any new studies that include certain gain-of-function experiments involving influenza, SARS, and MERS viruses.

This is straight from the horses mouth!

This research would have tested treatments and vaccines for the coronavirus. They didn't review this for 3 or 6 months. This lasted 3 years!

You know why?

It was cheaper to outsource this research to labs like the one in Wuhan.

Again, you will make excuses for Obama in 5, 4, 3, 2.......



posted on May, 3 2020 @ 11:32 PM
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a reply to: neoholographic

But it was covered somewhere else so it doesn't really show a negative attitude towards vaccination.

They have been working on coronavirus vaccines for 50 years and still nothing.

If you can't see why this isn't making excuses, then I don't know what to say. You harping on about it doesn't make it true.



posted on May, 3 2020 @ 11:43 PM
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a reply to: daskakik

You can't be srious. You're just all over the place trying to make excuses for Obama. You said:

They have been working on coronavirus vaccines for 50 years and still nothing.

This is a new virus that was recently discovered. Let me quote the paper you obviously didn't read.

New SARS-like virus can jump directly from bats to humans, no treatment available

Findings provide an opportunity to develop drugs and vaccines for coronaviruses before they emerges from animals to cause a human epidemic


A NEW SARS LIKE VIRUS in 2015 not 50 years ago.

Here's more:

Baric and his team demonstrated that the newly-identified SARS-like virus, labeled SHC014-CoV and found in the Chinese horseshoe bats, can jump between bats and humans by showing that the virus can latch onto and use the same human and bat receptor for entry. The virus also replicates as well as SARS-CoV in primary human lung cells, the preferred target for infection.

www.sciencedaily.com...

NEWLY IDENTIFIED not 50 years old.

More excuses for Obama coming in 5,4,3,2.....



posted on May, 3 2020 @ 11:47 PM
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a reply to: neoholographic

Coronavirus is a family of viruses which cause the common cold. There has never been a vaccine for that because they just couldn't come up with one.

Maybe with the new biotech they can come up with one but that really isn't a given.


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posted on May, 4 2020 @ 01:14 AM
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Holy crap man I cant believe Obama caused all these Coronavirus deaths...

You mean he didn't listen to the experts?

WHERE WAS FAUCI?

😂 The "fun" just never stops around here. The Left is doing everything they can to hand Trump a victory... You couldn't make this up! The lack of self awareness is astounding... 😲

a reply to: neoholographic



posted on May, 4 2020 @ 01:18 AM
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Anthony Falsi should explain '$3.7 million to the Wuhan laboratory'.


“Back in 2014, the Obama administration prohibited the U.S. from giving money to any laboratory, including in the U.S., that was fooling around with these viruses.

Prohibited.

Despite that, Dr. Falsi gave $3.7 million to the Wuhan laboratory.

And then even after the State Department issued reports about how unsafe that laboratory was, and how suspicious they were in the way they were developing a virus that could be transmitted to humans, we never pulled that money.”

So Falsi decided to fund Chinese experimentation with SARS-CoV despite our government banned the practice and cutting funding as mentioned about.


a reply to: 3n19m470

Where was Falsi?

He was funding the experiments...


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