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Ex-pope Benedict compares Antichrist to gay marriage and humanistic ideologies

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posted on May, 3 2020 @ 04:46 PM
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Pope Benedict links dominance of ‘homosexual marriage…abortion’ to spiritual power of ‘Anti-Christ’
www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/pope-benedicts-biographer-leftist-cardinal-tried-to-stop-ratzingers-2005-papal-election

May 1, 2020 (LifeSiteNews) – Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI linked the dominance of “homosexual marriage” and “abortion” in the world — such that it brooks no dissent without fear of punishment — to the “spiritual power of the Anti-Christ” in a new biography.

“One hundred years ago,” Benedict stated in the biography by Peter Seewald, “everybody would have considered it to be absurd to speak of a homosexual marriage. Today, one is being excommunicated by society if one opposes it.” The same applies to “abortion and to the creation of human beings in the laboratory,” Benedict added.

“Modern society is in the middle of formulating an anti-Christian creed, and if one opposes it, one is being punished by society with excommunication,” he went on to say. “The fear of this spiritual power of the Anti-Christ is then only more than natural, and it really needs the help of prayers on the part of an entire diocese and of the Universal Church in order to resist it.”

The over 1,000-page authoritative biography, titled Benedikt XVI: Ein Leben (in German) and Benedict XVI The Biography: Volume One (in English) is scheduled for release in German May 4 and in English Nov. 17.

“Of course,” he went on to say, “events such as 'VatiLeaks' are a nuisance and not understandable for the people in the world at large and deeply disturbing. But the real threat to the Church and with it to the Petrine Office does not come from such things, but from the world-wide dictatorship of seemingly humanistic ideologies.” To contradict this dictatorship, Benedict explained, “means the exclusion from the basic consensus in society.”






Why should the ex-pope rise the question of the Antichrist now, during the pontificate of his successor pope Francis who is criticized more by the conservative catholics than any pope in the recent history? Many conservatives see in Francis the pope who would turn the Catholic Church into a liberal ideology club that cares for the environment and the immigrants, but not for God. They just don’t accept as legit his efforts to bring the marginalized people back in the society, to feed the poor, to welcome the strangers (including the sexually strangers). They do not want such a reform, that pope Francis was explicitly elected for by the vast majority of the cardinals in 2013. And the reform is blocked exactly because of that powerful minority of cardinals and bishops on key positions, and not because the majority of 1.3 bln Catholics or the vast majority of 5,000 Catholic bishops don’t want it.



Until now, Benedict kept strict line of obedience towards his successor. For example, he distanced himself from the hardline cardinal Sarah when the latter wanted Benedict’s name included as co-author in anti-reformist book.



Seems something changes now. Raising the much speculated topic of the Antichrist, and connecting it to the humanism per se, is something more than what is expected from the retired ex-pope.

While the abortion remains one of the few issues that almost anyone denounces in the Catholic hierarchy, the homosexuality does not draw a unified condemnation. Cardinals in key dioceses appointed by pope Francis or even before him offer pastoral support to the gay people.



There is one more interesting moment in the short extract of the coming 1,000 page book: the pronouncing of the word “Excommunication”. We read:

“Today, one is being excommunicated by society if one opposes it.”

“Modern society is in the middle of formulating an anti-Christian creed, and if one opposes it, one is being punished by society with excommunication,”

The original meaning of the word “excommunication” belongs to the religious and not to the secular society. Using it deliberately, Benedict indicates that his followers the ultraconservative catholics may indeed fall into that category, and not because they oppose the abortions, rather because they oppose the reforms of his successor. Pope Francis warned clearly that if the reform opponents continue on their way of rejection, he is not afraid of a schism.



We also read: “But the real threat to the Church and with it to the Petrine Office does not come from such things, but from the world-wide dictatorship of seemingly humanistic ideologies.”

So Benedict is afraid of “seemingly humanistic ideologies” to endanger the Catholic Church and the office of the pope? What so terrifying in the humanism that wants to see the human family united, to alleviate hunger and diseases, to save the environment on the planet? Where does benedict shoot at here?



While I have not read the incoming 1,000 page book that certainly will include much more than this brief part, to declare the modern humanism to be equal to antichrist ideology, is a major bet even for the former pope. Humanism has been framing the world society for decades, supported by all recent popes now canonized saints St John XXIII, St Paul VI, St John Paul II.

Benedict himself walked to a great degree in their steps while pope, although his papal positions were in sharp contrast with the positions he held as cardinal.







One cannot help but wonder what are the real motives behind ex-pope Benedict’s crusade, that same cardinal Ratzinger who spared no efforts to postpone for decades the much needed reform, acting forcefully as prefect of CDF (the former Inquisition) to quash any dissent during the lengthy reign of St John Paul II and to effectively exchange the Third Secret of Fatima with a surrogate.



That is the tip of the iceberg of a continued battle between reformists and conservatives since the last Church Council Vatican II that opened the Catholic Church to the world for the first time. Invoking the Antichrist treat by no one else but the pope-emeritus is non-paralleled even for Vatican II debates, an escalation in wording not seen since the Middle ages.



Interesting where that process will lead to. And who is the real anti-Christian force behind scene, what is it we are not told about by those same people who know perfectly all secrets of the Vatican, including the famous Third Secret of Fatima and who opted not to tell us its essential part until this day.

Because, realistically looking, it is certainly not only about the gay people who have been present in the Catholic monasteries since time immemorial, giving vows to their Orders to live together in brotherhood, and who now surprisingly have become the driving force of the Antichrist?

It is also not about the Humanism and a more just world lauded since the 19th century pope Leo XIII’s encyclical Rerum Novarum.

It is not also about the Environmental preservation agenda proclaimed so loudly by the canonized saint pope John Paul II.



Then, what is the real motivation of the handful conservative cardinals and the ex-pope who now at 94 takes the lead in the so proclaimed threat of the rising antichrist in the face of the humanistic society?

I have no definitive answer, but that is something to ring the bells at the time of the unprecedented pandemic planetary lockdown.

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posted on May, 3 2020 @ 05:17 PM
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Seems something changes now. Raising the much speculated topic of the Antichrist, and connecting it to the humanism per se, is something more than what is expected from the retired ex-pope.


That is strange and worth note.

Maybe the ex-pope has been getting some time on one of the Vatican's telescopes.




posted on May, 3 2020 @ 05:41 PM
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Thanks for sharing, quite interesting observations there linking the anti-christ to humanism. When you know the amount of children legally murdered by parents who simply can not be bothered with the burden of a child interrupting their life you may concede he has a point.

Homosexuality is not denied by Abrahamic religions purely because 'it's bad' but has deep occult connections to western occult beliefs. Once you know them you can understand why there is resistance to homosexuality from established religions. I think they could explain the doctrine behind why homosexuality is incompatible rather than being jerks to people though



posted on May, 3 2020 @ 05:45 PM
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ex-Pope Benedict couldn't handle the job, abdicated, and promised to lead a quiet and contemplative life and not interfere with the new duly elected Pope.

Well?????



posted on May, 3 2020 @ 06:44 PM
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What a load of bollocks!
There are plenty of people opposing gay marriage and abortion as well, and the claim of ex-communication if you oppose an "anti-christian creed" is outlandish and fear based fanaticism. Do we again need to be reminded how many claim Christianity as their faith on the earth today? More than 2 billion. Christianity isn't going to be overrun and pushed into silence by the "real threat" of "humanistic ideologies" any time soon.

This fearmonger needs to go back to his quiet and cushy little life with the other pedo's he covered for. The Catholic church has no place talking to anyone with (or without) faith about anything anti-christ. The Catholic church is the Welome Wagon for him. /rant



posted on May, 3 2020 @ 07:07 PM
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If Benedict is that pissed off about gay marrige,one can only imagine how much of this book is devoted to comparing the neverending and institutional pedophilia in the catholic church to the Antichrist.
It must surely be a major chunk of the chapter on the antichrist right?
As doing such unspeakable things to kids is about as anti christ as one can get.

Or will that be skipped over/omitted,or just described as a nuisance,like the mentioned vatileaks(which exposed financial corruption within his own administation)?



posted on May, 3 2020 @ 07:47 PM
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originally posted by: Silcone Synapse
a reply to: 2012newstart
If Benedict is that pissed off about gay marrige,one can only imagine how much of this book is devoted to comparing the neverending and institutional pedophilia in the catholic church to the Antichrist.
It must surely be a major chunk of the chapter on the antichrist right?
As doing such unspeakable things to kids is about as anti christ as one can get.

Or will that be skipped over/omitted,or just described as a nuisance,like the mentioned vatileaks(which exposed financial corruption within his own administation)?




Exactly. It is infuriating how Catholics skip over this little detail whilst trying to demonise the sexuality of others when it is obviously more than just a few rotten apples in the institution.

Catholicism is not true Christianity any way.



posted on May, 3 2020 @ 07:49 PM
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I actually think he has a point although it is not an anti-Christian creed however, an extreme left-wing creed that seeks to burn all we know and once knew to the ground.

Surely you've noticed if you even hint at opposing "progressive" agendas you are attacked and ostracised from certain cirlces?



posted on May, 3 2020 @ 08:23 PM
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originally posted by: Klassified
a reply to: 2012newstart
What a load of bollocks!
There are plenty of people opposing gay marriage and abortion as well, and the claim of ex-communication if you oppose an "anti-christian creed" is outlandish and fear based fanaticism. Do we again need to be reminded how many claim Christianity as their faith on the earth today? More than 2 billion. Christianity isn't going to be overrun and pushed into silence by the "real threat" of "humanistic ideologies" any time soon.


when was the last time any celebrity / public figure condemned homosexuality? or gay marriage? in or out of the church?

nobody wants to touch the subject.
remember how the media jumped on Kavanaugh? that's the sort of frenzy an open anti-gay person would have to deal with.
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posted on May, 3 2020 @ 08:38 PM
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Whilst I would hardly consider him a celebrity and consider it to be a rubbish sport for those north of the Victorian border there is an Australian Rugby Union player, Israel Folau who posted the following to Twitter;


“Warning – Drunks, Homosexuals, Adulterers, Liars, Fornicators, Thieves, Atheists, Idolaters. HELL AWAITS YOU. REPENT! ONLY JESUS SAVES”


Whilst he took aim at - the promiscuous, liars, drunks, thieves and those of no belief he was only criticised for mentioning homosexuals. His career with the Australian national rugby team was subsequently destroyed and was cast as an evil villain in the Australian public spotlight.

I wasn't offended. Even though I could be considered to be a "drunk" depending on how he classifies them



posted on May, 3 2020 @ 08:54 PM
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originally posted by: IAMALLYETALLIAM
a reply to: Klassified

Surely you've noticed if you even hint at opposing "progressive" agendas you are attacked and ostracised from certain cirlces?


counterpoint: hinting at anything against the beliefs of the group you're around will generally get you attacked and ostracised. try saying something 'progressive' on ats and see how quickly the mob descends.
I hate it from both sides but it appears to be one of those human nature things that most people do instinctively and nothing at all to do with political affiliation. Which makes a certain evolutionary sense, i suppose. circle the wagons, protect the group, ad nausem



posted on May, 3 2020 @ 09:06 PM
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The attack on the humanism by ex-pope Benedict comes in full contrast with the position of pope Francis who called for inter-religious meeting on education and new humanism on May 14, postponed for the pandemic.




Pope calls for educational alliance to promote care for common home www.vaticannews.va/en/pope/news/2019-09/pope-francis-educational-alliance-new-humanism.html

The Holy See Press Office announced that the Pope has invited representatives from various religions, NGOs, academia, and cultural and political leaders to attend, in hopes of endorsing the “Global Compact on Education”.

the Pope said the meeting “will rekindle our dedication for and with young people, renewing our passion for a more open and inclusive education, including patient listening, constructive dialogue, and better mutual understanding.”

The goal, he stressed, is to develop “a new universal solidarity and a more welcoming society,” adding that education is key to driving positive change.

The Pope said the first step is finding “the courage to place the human person at the center.” This means recognizing the world’s interconnectedness and re-thinking economics, politics, growth, and progress, giving pride-of-place to an integral ecology that rejects the throw-away culture.

Next, Pope Francis called for summoning up “the courage to capitalize on our best energies”. The status quo should be replaced by giving education “a long-term vision”, to create a new humanism. The result, he added, will be “men and women who are open, responsible, prepared to listen, dialogue and reflect with others, and capable of weaving relationships with families, between generations, and with civil society.”

The Pope said a further step is “the courage to train individuals who are ready to offer themselves in service to the community.” Service, he said, is the “pillar of the culture of encounter”, and means helping the neediest of people and discovering that “there is more joy in giving than in receiving.”

To direct history
Pope Francis concluded by inviting everyone to commit themselves to improving their communities and to promoting “forward-looking initiatives that can give direction to history and change it for the better.”

“Let us seek solutions together, boldly undertake processes of change, and look to the future with hope.”


And the answer from one of the five cardinals in opposition of reforms (out of 120+)

Cardinal Burke: Vatican’s global pact for ‘new humanism’ promotes one-world gov’t, opposes Christ’s Kingship
catholiccitizens.org/uncategorized/90438/cdl-burke-vaticans-global-pact-for-new-humanism-promotes-one-world-govt-opposes-christs-kingship/


Cardinal Raymond Burke is calling on faithful Catholics to “stand up and give witness to the truth” of Jesus Christ’s Kingship in the face of the rise of Islam as well as the Vatican’s push for a “global pact” that will, in the words of Pope Francis, “create a new humanism.”


People with traditionalist views may think that it is Benedict and Burke whoa re right, that pope Francis goes too far in opening to the world etc. But on the other side, what those in opposition of the reforms want, is nothing less than returning the status quo from before the French revolution.

Benedict as one of the few who knew the Fatima secret, spared no effort to cover it up. He and the ageing John Paul II who hardly could be accused of anything in his senior years, released only that part of the secret concerning a possible martyrdom of the Church. But no word was released of the expected planetary upheaval. He likes to pose as martyr. But also to offer the world the martyrdom as a way out of the crisis. He even called the real world of suffering to be not so real or at least not the only one real, compared to God's world. From theological point of view it could be perfectly true, however from the point of view of the suffering people it is rather called lack of concern by their pastor. The crises that Benedict couldn't manage as pope, logically led to his own resignation as the supreme pastor of 1.3 bln catholics. Now, he is back. Strange, why? What is it that he knows and we don't? Did the secret Fatima event draw too close, to be worth to risk an open conflict with his successor whom he obeyed up until now?
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posted on May, 3 2020 @ 09:11 PM
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a reply to: continuousThunder

Yeah, you're right. Much the same way as racism is part of the human affliction and not unique to any race.



posted on May, 4 2020 @ 12:54 AM
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dear cardinal ratzinger - you were elevated to the papacy - but resigned - for " reasons " - please remain retire - and stop stirring crap - undermining the current uncumbant .

change happens - you had your chance - and bailed - now pope francis is incharge - let him lead



posted on May, 4 2020 @ 02:27 AM
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Well, I've had a few Judeo Christian experts tell me that apparently Sodom and Gomorrah weren't blasted to kingdom come because of all the homosexuality and all that, but because those two cities were actually wealthy, but weren't looking out for the poor and needy, and had actually killed people who were trying to help.

A couple of them mentioned something about how one girl was actually burned alive for helping the poor.

I'll try and find some links if anyone wants me to.



posted on May, 4 2020 @ 03:43 AM
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a reply to: AutomateThis1

Thanks AT1 I'd be interested in a look of you can find the info



posted on May, 4 2020 @ 05:20 PM
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a reply to: IAMALLYETALLIAM

I'll get on thay when I get home from work.



posted on May, 4 2020 @ 11:41 PM
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Alright.

Here's a link for various biblical sources

Genesis 18:20

biblehub.com...

Then the LORD said, "The outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is so great and their sin so grievous

Genesis 18:21

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that I will go down and see if what they have done is as bad as the outcry that has reached me. If not, I will know."

Genesis 19:4-13 (from link included below)

Before they lay down, the men of the city, the men of Sodom, surrounded the house, both young and old, all the people from every quarter; and they called to Lot and said to him, “Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us that we may have relations with them.” But Lot went out to them at the doorway, and shut the door behind him, and said, “Please, my brothers, do not act wickedly. Now behold, I have two daughters who have not had relations with man; please let me bring them out to you, and do to them whatever you like; only do nothing to these men, inasmuch as they have come under the shelter of my roof.” But they said, “Stand aside.” Furthermore, they said, “This one came in as an alien, and already he is acting like a judge; now we will treat you worse than them.” So they pressed hard against Lot and came near to break the door. But the men reached out their hands and brought Lot into the house with them, and shut the door. And they struck the men who were at the doorway of the house with blindness, both small and great, so that they wearied themselves trying to find the doorway.

Then the two men said to Lot, “Whom else have you here? A son-in-law, and your sons, and your daughters, and whomever you have in the city, bring them out of the place; for we are about to destroy this place, because their outcry has become so great before the Lord that the Lord has sent us to destroy it.”

So here the visitors were angels sent by God to investigate, and this encounter was apparently enough for them to make a decision.

Ezekial 16:49

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Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.

Here's a link for Ezekiel 16:50

biblehub.com...

They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen

Here's a link that's rather lengthy.

www.tabletmag.com...

Although I know it's a Wikipedia page it has several good citations for further reading. Scroll down to the Religious views and expand.

en.m.wikipedia.org...

Overall they weren't destroyed solely for homosexuality and inhospitality, but for apparently a wide variety of just being #ty people. They were living in total sin. With not a care about being decent people.

They robbed, murdered and raped the poor and visitors alike. They engaged in shady economic practices and it was very much a dog-eat-dog area.

They weren't the only two cities committing these crimes and over time all but one of the cities were destroyed.
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posted on May, 5 2020 @ 09:15 AM
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Forgive me for I am going to sin...

It ok send to gay people via through fire an pitch forks, but kiddie fiddlers get a front row seat before Christ whoch only sullied his god name an sandals. All the while it ok to have two wifes in Islam probably perform the same acts.

I swear to God these idiot want bring back Theocracy, when they wouldn t last a minute.
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