Polls find 30-40% of people afraid to leave isolation, the opposite of anti-liberty advocates fears

One fear the Government has, says the Times, is that people won’t actually leave their homes and return to work if the lockdown is eased. It has whipped up the public into such a frenzy of blanket-clutching fear, aided and abetted by the hysteria of the mainstream media, that a significant percentage may not dare venture outside for non-essentials. According to polling by Ipsos Mori, more than 60% of people would feel uncomfortable going to bars and restaurants or using public transport after the lockdown is over, more than 40% would be reluctant to go shopping or send their children to school and more than 30% are worried about going to work or meeting friends.

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I have said before that I am seeing this trend among ALL my friends and family. Including my normally fearless son-in-law who says he will keep his family isolated from the population regardless of lifted restrictions.

At least 70 of my friends have also said they will self isolate long long after the economy opens up because they are positive if they get within 6 feet of another human being outside of their home, they will die from COVID 19. This has been the constant and consistent message 24/7 of the media and politicians.

I don't blame them, we plan to self isolate and not go out for a very long time after restrictions are fully lifted. When we go out we will use the face shields we purchased recently, face masks, and gloves and remain 6 feet from other humans not living in our household, for most likely the next year or longer.

I know many are afraid that people will rush out and the death rate will soar into the millions in the matter of a very short time. I even had one anti-liberty person (totally against allowing people any freedom until there is a vaccine) from Canada who said to me on another social media site: “One good thing about it though: the people who do expose themselves voluntarily will be overwhelmingly Republicans, and they’ll all be dead before the election.” This is how much the anti-liberty crowd is terrified, they blame a political party and are positive the entire party will rush out when the economy reopens and hope they all die - to save lives. This is how terrified and twisted the lockdown has made people.

Even the media isn't reporting the very good studies out of S Korea that are showing reinfection is not something that their study shows is happening. www.livescience.com...

South Korean experts have concluded that patients who were feared to have been ‘reinfected’ with the virus, casting doubt on the possibility of an effective vaccine as well as making herd immunity look all-but impossible, were just false positives.

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I actually think the larger long term issue will be what many anti-liberty advocates say will not happen, actually will. 30-40% of people surveyed greatly fear going out or even allowing their children to return to school in the fall.

So it is my opinion that massive self-isolaters will further send the economy in a downward spiral. Attendance at all live events, political rallies, sports, concerts, movies, theme parks will spiral downward as people have been thoroughly conditioned to avoid anyone who lives outside their residence.

Despite the anti-liberty crowd being convinced things will return to normal in 2 years. After 2 years of terrorizing the populace of the world into fearing other human beings, I think the world will be drastically different and governments will be faced with an explosion of mental health issues from very young children, to their parents, etc. Isolation causes mental health issues, that is quite clear, and once things are lifted it is looking more and more like 30-40% of people may refuse to leave isolation due to conditioning by the media and being in abject terror of leaving their homes or allowing their children to leave their homes.

I agree with the conclusion of "Businessman Simon Dolan is seeking a Judicial Review over the Government’s emergency measures. His lawyers have delivered a ‘Letter Before Action’ on his behalf to the Government, giving it until May 7th to respond

Lockdown is also taking a huge toll on mental health and family life. Calls to the National Domestic Abuse helpline are up 49%.

Referrals for cancer tests have fallen by 76%. It is estimated that 18,000 more people with cancer could die because of the disruption.

We are depriving children of a proper education and instead teaching them to hide away from uncertainty rather than to confront it.

It is now universally accepted that the lockdown will cause enormous long-term damage to both the economy and the general health of the population.

No-one will be untouched by its effects, but the poorest in society will be by far the most affected

a reply to: The2Billies

Myself and a few Friends have said this all along.

Push enough MSM drivel down people's throats,throw in a few "celebs" to add authenticity (because if they can get it we can)
and the sheeple will WANT to stay isolated.

What better control than having people thinking they have to isolate as opposed to being told to. No anti gov sentiment as isolation is "their choice."

There is indeed an agenda, quite what I'm undecided on as yet.

a reply to: The2Billies

I really hate seeing how the fear mongering and propaganda has cowed so many people.

My kids have been very impatient with their dad and me, because -- according to them -- we think we're invincible and we're not taking CoVid seriously... and we tell them it's really the opposite... we have accepted our mortality and we understand that life is for the living. As long as we're still here, we're going to live -- not just "survive".

I also had to point out that long before either of them were taking it seriously, that I had already told them how to prepare and protect themselves, as well as how to nurse and nurture their body's if they did get sick.

Society as a whole needs those of us who will continue to live our lives in public in order to gain herd immunity, exposing ourselves to the virus, contracting the virus, becoming immune to the virus. Some will die of course, but the vast majority will live. This is true herd immunity. (Not that fake kind with vaccines...)

Eventually, the self-isolaters will begin to believe their own eyes, see that CoVid is not the guaranteed life sentence that it's been made to be, and they will rejoin society again.

a reply to: The2Billies

Beat me to it. I was going to do a similar post.

The populace has been severely scarred unnecessarily. I live in a very cordial and tight knit community. I've noticed how people keep away from each other. Going to the store is like some dystopian movie with everyone walking around with face masks.

Even if our fat boy Governor says we can open up tomorrow, I suspect so many people have been frightened into believing this nonsense that they are going to continue to isolate out of fear. I suspect people won't do things like shake hands or anything for at least a year.

The poster above described it perfectly. MSM push with enough celeb endorsements and the sheep fall right in line.

The biggest thing the Wuflu has taught me is to become more self suficient.

And buy more in bulk.

Never was a people person to begin with.

I've kinda like my personal space being somewhat back. When I go out to the store .That for some reason has shrunk over the decades.

That’s the saddest thing I’ve read today. Imagine living in such fear. I don’t fret over my odds of getting in a car accident or my odds of dying from heart disease or cancer ect. Some things can be avoided sure, cant get in a car accident if you don’t drive and stay off every road. But that’s stupid and impractical in real life.

Just like you won’t get covid if you never leave your house. Which is also stupid and impractical.
I won’t live in fear and I’ll take my chances. I still comply with social distance only because I respect others needs and there really are people who should be in their homes due to immune complications who have to leave their home out of necessity.

If covid takes me then so be it but I like my odds.
a reply to: The2Billies

a reply to: The2Billies


Jeeze.... Fear Mongering... blah, blah, blah.


How about I do not want to end up in the hospital with a 200K bill?

How is that for motivation?

Or, I don't want permanent lung, kidney, or heart damage so I can live the rest of my life disabled.

Or, If I am out of action for weeks with this crud, I may lose my damn job.

A haircut or restaurant trip is not worth that.


Plain Truth.


I will wait it out for as long as my employer lets me. If they will test and treat "Early" without a bunch of hoops, I may change my tune.

originally posted by: Athetos
That’s the saddest thing I’ve read today. Imagine living in such fear. I don’t fret over my odds of getting in a car accident or my odds of dying from heart disease or cancer ect. Some things can be avoided sure, cant get in a car accident if you don’t drive and stay off every road. But that’s stupid and impractical in real life.

Just like you won’t get covid if you never leave your house. Which is also stupid and impractical.
I won’t live in fear and I’ll take my chances. I still comply with social distance only because I respect others needs and there really are people who should be in their homes due to immune complications who have to leave their home out of necessity.

If covid takes me then so be it but I like my odds.
a reply to: The2Billies

Exactly. People aren't behaving rationally. The odds of dying from Covid are super low for most people. Probably no worse than a car accident, yet most people would think it is absurd to not drive.

History will look back on this period much like we laugh at the Salem witch trials or other situations of mass delusion / hysteria.

a reply to: infolurker

Ok, Chicken Little.

originally posted by: Edumakated
a reply to: infolurker

Ok, Chicken Little.

Just fact.

What am I doing different today than I did 5 months ago?


Well, I don't go to the Asian Buffet for lunch, and I don't go into Kroger to shop and get Curbside.

Not a big damn change for me, Are those two things worth it?

No.

I am the breadwinner for the family. I am currently supplementing 3 of my children's households and I need to continue to do that and that will not happen if I lose my job because of this crap. So, the risk far outweighs the reward.


But feel free to get out there and contribute to that herd immunity theory as they have no idea if that will last more than a few weeks or months.

a reply to: Edumakated

Thanks for the nod Edumakated, however TheDailyMash are way more eloquent at describing my frustration

Group of Celebrities get together to shut the fk up

They have many more but thats the most pertinent for this thread


for when the Pubs reopen.

a reply to: The2Billies

Millions of Americans who have listened to the MSM

Odds are not especially higher that I will die from the Wuhan virus than any number of other things, but since the MSM has run with its an end of life event people that normally dont think about those things are freaked out, after months of do this or die it makes sense that those people would be terrified to leave the house.

Its part of the reason I repeatedly tell my family to turn off the TV and go read some classic books, or go outside with their kids. Even suggested 1984 to some of my cousins... they didnt get the hint my aunts and uncles did.

a reply to: The2Billies

I believe there will be MANY who are afraid to go back out into the real world, and the longer they sit at home watching the news and reading on the internet the more frightened they will be! The propaganda machine has really done its job above and beyond all expectations I imagine.

Just two days ago when I went to do my weekly shopping I ran into an old friend who I worked with for several years and decided to say hello. Even though he was wearing a mask and gloves and I kept well over 6 feet away the look in his eyes proved that he was absolutely terrified that I was even speaking to him and that he would have run away if not for the fact that he was on the job. It made me sad.

I am high risk in the event I catch this virus but I still do my own shopping, go to the laundrymat, pick up my prescriptions, tend my patio garden and chat with a few neighbors. If I did not do the things I normally do (at least the things that are available for me to do right now) I would not consider myself to be living. As more things open up I will be going out and living louder.

We only get one shot at life on this planet. If you are too afraid to go out and live that life then what is the point of existing at all?

originally posted by: infolurker

Jeeze.... Fear Mongering... blah, blah, blah.


How about I do not want to end up in the hospital with a 200K bill?

How is that for motivation?

Or, I don't want permanent lung, kidney, or heart damage so I can live the rest of my life disabled.

Or, If I am out of action for weeks with this crud, I may lose my damn job.

A haircut or restaurant trip is not worth that.


Plain Truth.


I will wait it out for as long as my employer lets me. If they will test and treat "Early" without a bunch of hoops, I may change my tune.

At the end of the day its about what someone feels their safety level is and most of that is based on their health and health of those around them, but it doesn't help that there is fear porn mixed into all this to influence us.

Some where there is a happier middle I would say.

After the past two months.

I bet your going to see a resurgence in preppers.

They should feel vindicated.

originally posted by: neo96
After the past two months.

I bet your going to see a resurgence in preppers.

They should feel vindicated.

I would hope so. This is a mini-SHTF. A big one could happen at anytime. Hopefully this is a wake up call to the sheep who think there will always be food and supplies on the shelf.

a reply to: neo96

Personally I dont feel vindicated, never wanted to feel vindicated, honestly hoped to die never having to use any preps beyond power outages from weather, or hiking and camping.

originally posted by: infolurker
a reply to: The2Billies


Jeeze.... Fear Mongering... blah, blah, blah.


How about I do not want to end up in the hospital with a 200K bill?

How is that for motivation?

Or, I don't want permanent lung, kidney, or heart damage so I can live the rest of my life disabled.

Or, If I am out of action for weeks with this crud, I may lose my damn job.

A haircut or restaurant trip is not worth that.


Plain Truth.


I will wait it out for as long as my employer lets me. If they will test and treat "Early" without a bunch of hoops, I may change my tune.

Good thing about the US is they won't force you to leave your house.

Bad thing, many Governors in the US will keep extending anti-liberty rules and force people to be isolated and live a worthless, meaningless soul sucking existence, to the extreme detriment to their mental health.

a reply to: The2Billies

I'm pleased to see only 35% of Americans are "afraid". They can stay home until the media and governor tells them its safe to go out.

The rest of us will live normally, and enjoy the world around us having fewer people.

BTW.. I've noticed with the "scared" people at home, traffic moves much better, even if the road is kind of crowded.

Maybe scared/timid people should stay home until they stop being that way mentally.