U.S. intelligence now concedes - The pandemic may be a result of experiments at the Wuhan Lab

The funny thing is that it was the US that sold China this coronavirus, also the US oddly shut down their own super virus hunting lab, the infamous Fort Detrick in August 2019 a few months before this virus showed up.

Deadly Germ Research Is Shut Down at Army Lab Over Safety Concerns
www.nytimes.com...

Safety concerns at a prominent military germ lab have led the government to shut down research involving dangerous microbes like the Ebola virus.
“Research is currently on hold,” the United States Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases, in Fort Detrick, Md., said in a statement on Friday. The shutdown is likely to last months, Caree Vander Linden, a spokeswoman, said in an interview.

America likely doesn’t want to open up this can of viral worms

Leave it to the bats...

Bottom line, ALL of these stupid ass governments need to leave this stuff alone. Other than legitimate medical research they need to ban this bio lab germ study crap alone

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

Let's just say for arguements sake that there was an open air market in the vicinity of Clifton Road in the eastern part of Atlanta and some wacky virus suddenly sprung up there. What would be your first suspicion as to where it came from?

Darn that CDC!

I knew they couldn't be trusted.

Gee, I studied what was being done in the Wuhan lab back in January and pieced together information from what I read about the scientists there releasing information on this virus too quickly to have it be naturally happening. I concluded it was probably an accidental release too. But of course, scientists who do the same kind of work worldwide and fear that the people around their labs will want them closed down because they could have an accident are saying it is natural...no evidence of a lab being involved...note the wording, no accepted evidence by their group is what it is. Now, if the FBI does find evidence, then they will be forced to go back and say now there is evidence and that they were not wrong, people just misunderstood what they said in legal terms and assumed it did not come from the labs.

Birds of a feather flock together. Scientists doing the same kind of research are not going to investigate something like this without covering up risk.

originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: LookingAtMars

Is this the same U.S. Intelligence that told the world there where WMD in Iraq?

At first they said it was a natural occurrence. Then they backtracked, so yes it's the same one.

a reply to: LookingAtMars

Judging from the past behavior of the US government and its media, if they want me to believe that it started in Wuhan out of that lab, the opposite is more likely the truth.

a reply to: Willtell

its highly unlikely to get proven where the origin of this thing started and certainly not from that Lab.

IDK, it is more likely that you are right.

But data can be manually written to the DNA/RNA of a virus. There is a chance that a manufacture, batch, lot or serial number could be written in every CoVID virus out there and that can identify it's origin.

originally posted by: Salander
a reply to: LookingAtMars

Judging from the past behavior of the US government and its media, if they want me to believe that it started in Wuhan out of that lab, the opposite is more likely the truth.

You have a good point and nothing would surprise me at this point.

originally posted by: Salander
a reply to: LookingAtMars

Judging from the past behavior of the US government and its media, if they want me to believe that it started in Wuhan out of that lab, the opposite is more likely the truth.

With Trumps futile claim for damages from China, he needs U.S. Intelligence on his side.

You could see this coming a mile off.

Let's say this is true. What reaction would or could be required of the rest of the world against china. How will china react to that reaction?. Scary trajectory that may lead to an inevitable end.

Let's hope the truth is knowable, and then that cooler heads prevail.

This situation seems like advanced Sun Zu strategy.

a reply to: elementalgrove

Who set up the task force?

Also US aid into Chinese scientific endeavours goes back decades. I was reading something a few weeks ago that indicated US support in this field in the late 80's.

In 2015, the WIV's National Bio-safety Laboratory was completed at a cost of 300 million yuan ($44 million) in collaboration with the French government's CIRI lab, and was the first biosafety level 4 (BSL–4) laboratory to be built in mainland China.[2][14] The establishment of the laboratory was partially funded by the U.S. government[12] and took over a decade to complete from its conception in 2003.[2]

The Laboratory has strong ties to the Galveston National Laboratory in the University of Texas.[3] It also had strong ties with Canada's National Microbiology Laboratory until WIV staff scientists Xiangguo Qiu and her husband Keding Cheng, who were also remunerated by the Canadian government, were escorted from the Canadian lab for undisclosed reasons in July 2019.[15]

That's just off wiki. I highlighted the interesting part.

originally posted by: LookingAtMars
a reply to: Willtell

its highly unlikely to get proven where the origin of this thing started and certainly not from that Lab.

IDK, it is more likely that you are right.

But data can be manually written to the DNA/RNA of a virus. There is a chance that a manufacture, batch, lot or serial number could be written in every CoVID virus out there and that can identify it's origin.

Your right. According to the most possible scenario, the Chinese brought this virus from two places in America, from university labs, I recall. I posted weeks ago this story here www.abovetopsecret.com...

In this interview, the author of the US Biowarfare Act, Professor Francis Boyle, uncovers four separate studies which he claims confirm as ‘smoking gun’ evidence the Wuhan coronavirus, now known as COVID-19, was in fact weaponized.
Professor Boyle also discloses where he believes the true origin of the virus originated and the extent that the US government was involved.
This is a must-see interview as Professor Boyle also reveals never before disclosed information.

www.youtube.com...

Now, this is a conspiracy site but the professor is a legit guy who the MSN avoids.

originally posted by: alldaylong
Yes, some...

'Some'. Right. They must be the ones calling all the shots then using your logic.

a reply to: LookingAtMars


Ummm...how would all these scientist categoric deniers possibly know that the release wasn’t intentional...?

I mean...I just loves when scientists claim categoric...consensus...fact...where no truth or facts are in evidence...

I just loves it...

Are they all claiming vast powers of prestidigitation now...?

I mean...they do all love to use consensus and science in the same breath these days...so...one can hardly fault them for their...opinion’s...









YouSir

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: alldaylong
Yes, some...

'Some'. Right. They must be the ones calling all the shots then using your logic.

Sad that my logic doesn't agree with yours.

That's life.

originally posted by: alldaylong
Sad that my logic doesn't agree with yours.

That's life.

It's probably because you aren't using any.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: alldaylong
Sad that my logic doesn't agree with yours.

That's life.

It's probably because you aren't using any.

Maybe you would be happier if you went and polished your guns.

Problem is we have heard both it is and it isn't man-made and it is and isn't from the Wuhan Bio Labs from sources that may or may not be credible. There always an agenda behind stories like these even if it is to just get more clicks on their website.
being Newsweek is plus but google is COVID 19 a man-made virus every site on the front page says no from WaPo to Science Mag

a reply to: putnam6

For what little it is worth, my cousin has worked at / runs a lvl 4 facility studying HIV for a decade now at least. When this all kicked off they shut down all non-covid related study, and started study of COVID19.

Initially said cousin was pretty adamant there was no info pointing to this being anything other than naturally occuring mutation and talk otherwise was considered "conspiracy". As of about a week ago after 4+ weeks of working with the virus, he is comfortable stating he and his colleagues find it very plausible that in fact the mutation was not naturally occuring after all and there seems to be evidence on the contrary.

Please understand they are not looking to speak about absolutes, but rather discuss what is in the realm of possibility. They wouldnt state something absolutely without sufficient evidence. If thats done "ahead of" MSM and not in confidence I'll surely update.

a reply to: LookingAtMars

The classified report, titled "China: Origins of COVID-19 Outbreak Remain Unknown," ruled out that the disease was genetically engineered or released intentionally as a biological weapon.

"We have no credible evidence to indicate SARS-CoV-2 was released intentionally or was created as a biological weapon," the report found. "It is very unlikely that researchers or the Chinese government would intentionally release such a dangerous virus, especially within China, without possessing a known and effective vaccine." Every scientist interviewed by Newsweek for this story also rejected categorically the notion that the virus was intentionally released

About all you can take from that is

1 " origin remains unknown " , as per report title

2 the virus is very dangerous , as per " such a dangerous virus "

Certain factions have the intention and deliberately act not to help certain people in situations where they might ask for help , from the state. It's suspected that's how it got into uncontrolled circulation and , certain factions know that happened - because they let it happen - and don't want to specify why or become objects of suspicion and deemed culpable . And therefore information regarding origins is suppressed from high levels and that's how you get reports of "unknown ".
Otherwise they'd have known by now where it came from. There's a need to know but it's not coming out .

By turning their backs