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Do you not wish Dear Leader had a LITTLE more backbone?

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posted on Apr, 28 2020 @ 05:29 AM
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Full disclosure: I am anti trump. I am not pro Hillary. I am a centrist, but on this particular matter I am anti trump, not anti Republican.

Also save yourselves the effort of the usual responses:

- What about that time [democrat] did [thing]?
- You've been conditioned by the entire MSM!!1 And all Intel agencies! And all TV shows! And global leaders! And all of the things!!!
- Lmao leftist libtard
- Librul tears
- That was too many words; you must be angry have a tissue lmao
- Misc pictures of crying antifa idiots who aren't relevant here
- He's trolling/being sarcastic
- iT mAkEs HiM sTrOnG!!
- Disregarding the actual point raised

I am neither "crying" nor "angry" nor "triggered" - I'm genuinely curious on this topic.

Ok: it's common for anti trumpers to point out his constant whining on twitter/at his pressers, and attacking people. It isn't presidential, nor fitting for a man of his age, experience, or influence.

It's equally common for his supporters to say:
"He just hits back!"

"You would complain too if all the media was against you!!"

"It makes him strong!"

"He's trolling and it's working lmao xD
"(you know who you are).

Bearing in mind you can both support and criticise your leaders simultaneously depending on the issue (this isn't a game to be "WON") and you absolutely should scrutinise your leadership and question what you're told.

This the fundamental basics of democratic free speech; blind faith to "win at all costs" is dangerous, lazy, and naive. I dont care who you are, who you support or what you believe in - questioning what TPTB tell you is ESSENTIAL. The thought process of "I trust every word they say without scrutiny" is cult mentality as you know.

My question, then, is: do you not seriously wish he had a LITTLE more backbone?

Ask yourself this: if you worked with someone who acted exactly like trump; constantly complaining about people being mean or not giving constant positive feedback, always making up silly playground nicknames not for fun but to bully people for their appearance (ironically...), slating like crazy anyone who contradicts or disagrees with them..

Would you REALLY say "oh he's strong, he doesn't take any ish!!"

Or would you say "christ he never stops whining... why can't he just suck it up and get on with his job?"

Personally I'd find them to be a whining, hard-done-by, entitled thin-skinned weakling.

If you can't take negative comments without having to "hit back" (e.g. insult people with ad hominem attacks) then you shouldn't be in any position of power. It is a weakness.

So in summary, those of you who feel his twitter tantrums are "strong" - you too are weak. Simple.

As for "it's trolling" and "it's sarcasm" - please. Of all the lazy get out of jail free cards. "I wasnt asking Dr Birx, despite the video evidence of me doing precisely that! It was sarcasm!" (Paraphrasing, before you get all worked up).

I invite genuine responses to my point, and will simply disregard the bog standard copy/paste anti liberal stuff - again I'm liberal on some matters and conservative on others.

Peace.



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posted on Apr, 28 2020 @ 05:36 AM
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I think we all finally got mendella'd to this point in time.

Literally any other random 'celebrity' head could be a better president than the current.

I'd say the same for the twatwaffle over here we have to look to.

Yes, they could all offer a bit more spine. Unlike worms, which have no bones.



posted on Apr, 28 2020 @ 05:40 AM
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well said, but I would invite you to step away from centrism and consider that maybe we need to break the whole system.

Power going to the people who want it will never work out for us.
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posted on Apr, 28 2020 @ 05:42 AM
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a reply to: fencesitter85

I have decided that effective from last week, I will let Vic spit and speak for me about government and coronavirus - the bloke sums up in 4 minutes what ATS can't articulate in 6 weeks.....

So yes, I wish Trump had the backbone of this bloke when it comes to this fiasco.

You ready for some swear words intermixed with a very clear message?

Good.




posted on Apr, 28 2020 @ 05:43 AM
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He is a Man Child with the same idiotic worshipers who follow Q.

There should be no Partisan worship when we are all the victims of both Parties.

a reply to: Sublimecraft

Best Rant Ever


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posted on Apr, 28 2020 @ 05:43 AM
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a reply to: fencesitter85
I'm confused...

Aren't you happy he doesn't?



posted on Apr, 28 2020 @ 05:44 AM
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Hillary isn't in jail.

The ACA is still a thing.



posted on Apr, 28 2020 @ 06:23 AM
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a reply to: fencesitter85

I wish the leader of the world would be the winner of an MMA tournament.

I do not obey weak Hu-Mans that i could destroy.



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posted on Apr, 28 2020 @ 06:27 AM
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a reply to: fencesitter85

So your a centrist with TDS got it.

I would say Trump has a backbone more backbone than most. He has stood up for US interests and continues to stand up for US interests around the globe only to be attacked by the media with gotcha questions. Stood up to China, Russia, North Korea, Iran. Stood up to our Allies in Nato and the EU as well.

He is supported by his voters who are called names and made out to be rubes. By attacking him they are by proxy attacking those that voted for him. When they insult him they insult his supporters. That is why he is cheered on by them when he fights back. He is not perceived by his supporters as thin skinned or weak when he calls out fake news as he sees it. He is standing up for his voters.



posted on Apr, 28 2020 @ 06:30 AM
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Yoda says,

"Are you an intellectual trash compactor minimizing all other ideas in order present small package"

Please present an example of a "strong" president serving in last 120 years or so. Then maybe honest comparisons might be made aside opinions.



posted on Apr, 28 2020 @ 06:35 AM
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originally posted by: Phoenix
Yoda says,

"Are you an intellectual trash compactor minimizing all other ideas in order present small package"


Baby Yoda says: "Be an intellectual recycler eliminating useless ideas in order to present clean package".



posted on Apr, 28 2020 @ 06:46 AM
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Always listen to the Democrat MSM and all their smoke and mirror reporting πŸ™ƒ πŸ‘€ πŸ™‚

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posted on Apr, 28 2020 @ 07:32 AM
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originally posted by: xuenchen
Always listen to the Democrat MSM and all their smoke and mirror reporting πŸ™ƒ πŸ‘€ πŸ™‚

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SAD. It's not a left vs right feud, it's a freedom vs slavery feud.



posted on Apr, 28 2020 @ 07:37 AM
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a reply to: Sublimecraft
Thank you for that, for a crazy guy who I thought would literally explode, but made complete sense, I subscribed!



posted on Apr, 28 2020 @ 07:38 AM
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originally posted by: Jamie2018

originally posted by: xuenchen
Always listen to the Democrat MSM and all their smoke and mirror reporting πŸ™ƒ πŸ‘€ πŸ™‚

(..:πŸ‘οΈ_πŸ‘οΈ:..)


SAD. It's not a left vs right feud, it's a freedom vs slavery feud.


Unfortunately, The American Left always makes it a left vs right feud and maybe that means slavery vs freedom πŸ‘Ώ 😈



posted on Apr, 28 2020 @ 07:40 AM
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I for one am shocked how much Trump has stood up for America and Conservatism in general. I fully believed he'd go to Washington and turn more liberal, or give in to the 99% liberal media's daily lies. But he's stood his ground, pushed back against the asinine liberal media, and possibly even moved embraced conservatism even more.

Here's to another 4 years of MAGA.



posted on Apr, 28 2020 @ 07:41 AM
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a reply to: fencesitter85

Isn't "strong" subject to interpretation? Subjective? Relative? What exactly makes someone strong? What exactly represents a "backbone"?

I wish Trump had the "backbone" to say that this a free nation, dammit, and there is NO PLACE for "shutdowns" in a free economy. I wish Trump had the "backbone" to tell the nation that we don't live in a virus-free world, and that everyone needs to suck it up and accept that they WILL get the virus sooner or later, so plan and prepare for that eventuality now. I wish Trump had the "backbone" to tell the people to take Vitamin C and/or Vitamin D to build their defenses for the day they do contract the virus. I wish Trump had the "backbone" to tell healthcare providers that if THEY don't have the "backbone" to treat ill patients properly for fear of catching the virus themselves, to get the hell out of the way of those who do. I wish Trump had the "backbone" to tell governors that their "shutdown" measures are killing people and to freaking find better ways to manage their state's risk.

But somehow I don't think that's the "backbone" that you're talking about.

And here's the bottom line: No matter what Trump does or does not do, or does or does not say, someone is going to have a problem with it. But Trump is there, doing the job, taking the crap, and standing before the people every single day to tell them what's going on. Whether we agree or not, he has demonstrated the courage of his convictions.

That's "backbone."



posted on Apr, 28 2020 @ 07:58 AM
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originally posted by: Jamie2018

originally posted by: xuenchen
Always listen to the Democrat MSM and all their smoke and mirror reporting πŸ™ƒ πŸ‘€ πŸ™‚

(..:πŸ‘οΈ_πŸ‘οΈ:..)


SAD. It's not a left vs right feud, it's a freedom vs slavery feud.



Ummm...much sadder...that some...might equate the slavery of socialism...to some sort of quasi freedom...


Therein lies the conundrum...does it not...

Believing that getting all manna from the teat of .gov...is somehow...NOT...being kept...

There’s a good little boy...such a good boy...


Hilarious really...

Really...





YouSir



posted on Apr, 28 2020 @ 07:59 AM
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All of your OP's which are Mud Pit OP's would indicate you add nothing to the Forum, but instead are a Troll and chronic PITA.

"I am neither "crying" nor "angry" nor "triggered" - I'm genuinely curious on this topic"


Not so... your actions betray you.
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