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posted on Apr, 25 2020 @ 03:30 PM
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UK pulls China from coronavirus death toll comparison amid claims of cover up

The UK has removed China from a coronavirus chart that compares countries by death toll.

It comes amid claims that Beijing has under-reported confirmed infections and fatalities, and more evidence that it attempted to cover up the outbreak in the initial stages.

The charts shared by the Government on Friday and Saturday show a global death comparison using deaths in the UK, US, Spain, Italy, France, Germany, Sweden and South Korea.

Click here to read more.



This had to happen sometime. A month ago the UK government were (privately) livid , 2 weeks ago we heard American intel saying 2.9 million cases , in china

Where is it now ?

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And what games are the WHO playing ?
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posted on Apr, 25 2020 @ 03:36 PM
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a reply to: DoctorBluechip

China is just upset because, even with such a vast population, they can't get even close to a 10th of the top death toll from the virus in the world rankings.

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posted on Apr, 25 2020 @ 03:36 PM
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2 weeks ago we heard American intel saying 2.9 million cases , in china

Can you cite that , please ?



posted on Apr, 25 2020 @ 03:40 PM
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China has 1,400,000,000 people. If only one percent of their population catches COVID 19 that would be 14 million infected. en.wikipedia.org...

So yes, 3 million cases is far far too low with the rapid transmission rate that many are reporting for the virus on ATS. If the rapid transmission rate as reported in media all over the world, is accurate then China's number of cases should be much higher, perhaps as high as 46 million, if only 30% of the population has been infected.

If the death rate is what many are claiming it to be then their death toll if only 1% of the population dies from it, which many on ATS says is ridiculously low, then they should have a a minimum 14 million dead of COVID 19.

So either China is lying or the media is greatly exaggerating the danger to the rest of the world, since China is where it started and ran rampant a month or more before containment measures were taken.



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posted on Apr, 25 2020 @ 03:45 PM
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Sorry I meant the UK government were livid , they'd heard the intelligence that the CCP were outright lying about having brought the Corona under control . They made no announcement about it , but today's news demonstrates a reversal of that policy



posted on Apr, 25 2020 @ 03:51 PM
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originally posted by: The2Billies
a reply to: DoctorBluechip

China has 1,400,000,000 people. If only one percent of their population catches COVID 19 that would be 14 million infected. en.wikipedia.org...

So yes, 3 million cases is far far too low with the rapid transmission rate that many are reporting for the virus on ATS. If the rapid transmission rate as reported in media all over the world, is accurate then China's number of cases should be much higher, perhaps as high as 46 million, if only 30% of the population has been infected.

If the death rate is what many are claiming it to be then their death toll if only 1% of the population dies from it, which many on ATS says is ridiculously low, then they should have a a minimum 14 million dead of COVID 19.

So either China is lying or the media is greatly exaggerating the danger to the rest of the world, since China is where it started and ran rampant a month or more before containment measures were taken.


I seem to remember that those containment measures were fairly extreme. Perhaps extreme measures work?

And, damn, didn't those hospitals go up fast.

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posted on Apr, 25 2020 @ 03:54 PM
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posted on Apr, 25 2020 @ 04:27 PM
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originally posted by: DoctorBluechip
a reply to: Gothmog

www.abovetopsecret.com...


An ATS link ?
Why not your direct link ?



posted on Apr, 25 2020 @ 04:32 PM
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The media has a lot to answer for. Theyv been feeding us the idea that it's under control in china as well . Right from the start until now.
The WHOs global figures can now be thrown out of the window too.
The trouble is CCP lies have informed the responses overseas , like letting flights come out when it's been way too late to do that.
Now we've got citizens dead that shouldn't have been , lockdowns lasting longer than planned by months if not years , shortages of everything PPE , oncoming food issues , and because it's been let out of control do long you've got actual militaries that have been smacked by it.
The virus hits institutions hardest , any goods still coming from China might be the last that arrive , you certainly can't trust the CCP propaganda machine and plans needed reconfiguring so you couldnt keep the publics factually informed and therefore onside . We needed this truth to come out to get a perspective. Some of the leaked info is dire , animals rotting in fields , people jumping off buildings , mass starvation , everything stopped. It's easy to post up footage of Chinese in masks and announce new lockdowns of ten million in a city in china , but it's got to be bull , it is bull and China is getting whacked by this right now . There's virus on pollution particles it's airbourne from the amount of infection somewhere , perhaps from fires burning bodies at this point nowhere is safe not even up mountains . By the time the figures reach 100 million worldwide there's just a few weeks left to global saturation such that no one's figures mean anything anymore anyway. At that point it's likely going to be either live or die within about 2 to 6 weeks it could be lock doors and windows shut and stay inside hoping no one you share with gets pnumonia . Going back to original r0 rates we said without mitigation it'd be end of may , looks like by July we could have a real mess , as in a world ending type mess . Lets hope not , but if china can't control it , no one can , lockdown or not . New Zealand may be ok , that's where the billionaires have bugged out to , but don't place bets on that either , china lying had necessitated everyone lying , that's my guess for now anyway



posted on Apr, 25 2020 @ 04:39 PM
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It's in that thread . You get three hits on national review magazine before you have to pay them



posted on Apr, 25 2020 @ 06:03 PM
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originally posted by: DoctorBluechip
a reply to: chr0naut

The media has a lot to answer for. Theyv been feeding us the idea that it's under control in china as well . Right from the start until now.
The WHOs global figures can now be thrown out of the window too.
The trouble is CCP lies have informed the responses overseas , like letting flights come out when it's been way too late to do that.
Now we've got citizens dead that shouldn't have been , lockdowns lasting longer than planned by months if not years , shortages of everything PPE , oncoming food issues , and because it's been let out of control do long you've got actual militaries that have been smacked by it.
The virus hits institutions hardest , any goods still coming from China might be the last that arrive , you certainly can't trust the CCP propaganda machine and plans needed reconfiguring so you couldnt keep the publics factually informed and therefore onside . We needed this truth to come out to get a perspective. Some of the leaked info is dire , animals rotting in fields , people jumping off buildings , mass starvation , everything stopped. It's easy to post up footage of Chinese in masks and announce new lockdowns of ten million in a city in china , but it's got to be bull , it is bull and China is getting whacked by this right now . There's virus on pollution particles it's airbourne from the amount of infection somewhere , perhaps from fires burning bodies at this point nowhere is safe not even up mountains . By the time the figures reach 100 million worldwide there's just a few weeks left to global saturation such that no one's figures mean anything anymore anyway. At that point it's likely going to be either live or die within about 2 to 6 weeks it could be lock doors and windows shut and stay inside hoping no one you share with gets pnumonia . Going back to original r0 rates we said without mitigation it'd be end of may , looks like by July we could have a real mess , as in a world ending type mess . Lets hope not , but if china can't control it , no one can , lockdown or not . New Zealand may be ok , that's where the billionaires have bugged out to , but don't place bets on that either , china lying had necessitated everyone lying , that's my guess for now anyway


Perhaps look at the stats for New Zealand and Australia?

There is hope for containing the spread when daily recoveries exceed daily new cases, in that situation, the numbers of active cases must decline.

Then when the numbers are few and manageable, each cluster can be contained, which feeds back into daily new infections being lower than recoveries, in a loop.

It is doable.

Since Australia and New Zealand are both now managing through this virus, there is talk of opening up trade and travel between us. Extending our national isolation 'bubbles' to include each other. Soon, other countries will join as they wrestle back control.

But lying statistics would bring doubt about safety of opening up again. Lying about national statistics is not in the interest of each country's reopening.



posted on Apr, 25 2020 @ 06:12 PM
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The way New Zealand and Australia are playing it, means to be sure their must be at least a week where no new cases are found, five a day still doesn't cut it, Just one person spreading it will cause complete lockdowns all over again.



posted on Apr, 25 2020 @ 08:04 PM
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originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: chr0naut

The way New Zealand and Australia are playing it, means to be sure their must be at least a week where no new cases are found, five a day still doesn't cut it, Just one person spreading it will cause complete lockdowns all over again.


We go from Level 4 lockdown, to Level 3, tomorrow.

I don't think we are going to wait until there are no new cases.

Basically, this is not going to go away. It is probably going to be another seasonal virus, so to wait for an unreasonable outcome isn't wise.

We just need to get it to the point of manageability. Where our resources aren't overstretched and where we can minimize deaths. Hoping for a total end to this is fantasy.



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