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Which may explain apparitions and other things seen that cannot be explained.
originally posted by: TheKestrel04
I was looking at some threads lately and the time dilation part in various cases over the years stood out to me. I actually went about trying to calculate by how much a ratio another universe is slower if these beings where from another dimension and it came to about 1440 -1500 times slower which would mean they would appear (if visible) to be static whilst we raced through our lives and ironically all they would need is a high speed camera of their own to view us like this:
10,000fps!? - The Slow Mo Guys Link
Ratio of Time Calculator
UFO / Faerie Lore Connection?
Now other than Orbs being a life-form, I think these vehicles use either an External Fusion Reaction (which would require an INTENSE magnetic field which could disrupt electrons relating to the tingly feeling you get or vehicles stalling) or a Byproduct of propulsion causing the plasma sheath. There are neat things one can do with plasma and having it on the outside as it allows for obscurity, shielding, direct access to fuel (air water etc.), reduced radar detection. On the negative side that is also direct exposure to radiation for anything on the outside like human observers, animals and plants where as the occupants can be shielded by the rather heat resistant hull.
So maybe the energy source is fusion based with propulsion being achieved by a plasma envelope. As for the space distortion this may have to do with the vehicle being out of phase with this universe to lower inertia not mass, this results with a temporal lag effect that usually includes time loss. Maybe the goal isn't to reduce the actual mass but instead to reduced it's kinetic energy/inertia. Thus to reduce the inertia time is slowed to reduce the acceleration thus reducing the force/kinetic energy of the moving object.
Want to be weightless in a gravity well? F = m x a this is literally gravity in a nutshell, chop the time/acceleration out and you just have mass.
In terms of abductions there is almost always that loss of time. Similar to a nuclear reactor the fusion reactor (they may even be some internal ignitor mechanism like a mini reactor for standby mode )is kept running at some fraction of power in the event an emergency to take off is required.
Keeping the weight! ( F = m x a ) low ready to zip away. So by being is the dilation field there is a lack of ambient noise as the air molecules don't vibrate as fast and thus that sudden silence often encountered in sightings.
This brings Time to being very very relative to the observer as with the abductees in Missing cases etc. Spending mere minutes which rack up to days here. As an example of this our planet and everything on it is whizzing around at about 1000 mph but it's all relative motion the same way a plane doesn't leave you behind by going 600 mph when you walk to the toilet onboard. The challenge would be simulating this temporal differential visually as there is the issue of how fast we can process what we sense.
One might also consider strangely enough these beings are naturally time dilated which permits all sorts of spooky special abilities like phasing through walls, appearing and disappearing. They are of out of phase so to them we maybe like what x-rays are to us. So by applying the temporal difference ratio "they" are somewhere below Infared In the EHF region but in the upper end of Microwaves. So in this light the universe is like a mess of radiation and like a radio you tune into to a particular station which can only interact with "matter" on that station and the rest phases through with minimal interaction like how microwaves interact with water molecules. That is where the others worlds are maybe, literally around us but out of tune.
One more realisation, what if Dark Matter is the out of phase matter from the other universes sitting on top of this one ?
The Electromagnetic spectrum
So whoever/whatever operates these vehicles and are doing abductions in forests have harnessed the art of time dilation/frequency control. This is a direction where we may find more answers about the "Others".
if these beings where from another dimension
originally posted by: Gothmog
if these beings where from another dimension
There can be no such thing.
originally posted by: moebius
originally posted by: Archivalist
You operate under a lot of assumptions here.
Let me just sling you a change of perspective.
What if they're faster, rather than slower?
Do you really have any evidence one way or the other, beyond speculation?
I'm not sure if I buy any of these arguments at all, this seems like a thought experiment at best, and you're using some examples that I don't feel illustrate a point congruent with your argument.
Infrared doesn't exist in some mystical realm, that our phones can peer into.
We have the ability to interact with and see it. You might need some tools, as your sense organs have their limitations, but that doesn't jive with phasing through walls, time, and gravity dilation, in my book.
Your argument is sausages and meatballs, but we're talking apple and orange orchard.
The challenge would be simulating this temporal differential visually as there is the issue of how fast we can process what we sense.
originally posted by: solve
a reply to: TheKestrel04
I agree with pretty much everything i just read.
Unfortunately it is forbidden by the rules of this site to tell why i agree.