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Senior Dems call for national plan to reopen U.S.

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posted on Apr, 13 2020 @ 07:08 PM
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A group of House Democrats are attempting to halt President Donald Trump from declaring a return to normal life in the U.S. too soon, which they fear would undermine national efforts to contain the coronavirus outbreak.

Several senior Democrats are now calling on Congress to create a national plan that decides when to reopen businesses and schools in consultation with agencies like the Department of Health and Human Services and state governments, not just the president’s pulpit. And after the reopening, it would also require adequate testing and contact tracing to prevent a second outbreak.


Is it a wise political move for the Democratic party to take ownership of the Caronavirus and reopening the Economy? Right now they can comfortably sit back and take pot shots at the president for any move he attempts to make. But if they tie his hands and take full responsibility of restarting the economy they would than have to answer for their own decisions.

Not to mention:


House and Senate lawmakers, meanwhile, remain in self-isolated back in their districts, without a method to vote or hold hearings.


They would actually have to go back to work themselves if they ever hoped to take over the Caronavirus and reopening the Economy. Are they even ready to do that?


How about for the rest of us? Are we better off with the executive branch working to reopen the economy. Or is it better to leave such decision and planning to the House and Senate who have found it difficult to agree to things much less important than this.



posted on Apr, 13 2020 @ 07:12 PM
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Wouldn't the House actually have to get back to Washington first and you know ........work.

Hey the Press has been telling me today it's the States decision when to open, not the Federal Government.


The Democrats are Fascists for wanting to control the States actions.

Just giving back.............



posted on Apr, 13 2020 @ 07:13 PM
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Several senior Democrats are now calling on Congress to create a national plan that decides when to reopen businesses and schools in consultation with agencies like the Department of Health and Human Services and state governments, not just the president’s pulpit. And after the reopening, it would also require adequate testing and contact tracing to prevent a second outbreak.


So Democratic leadership doesn't understand the 10th Amendment and just want to go full-on fascists...

While only in control of 1/2 of 1/3 of our government.

This is my shocked face.



Perhaps American citizens should remember that this coming November.

And ETA... Pavil, GMTA!


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posted on Apr, 13 2020 @ 07:20 PM
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Several senior Democrats are now calling on Congress to create a national plan that decides when to reopen businesses and schools in consultation with agencies like the Department of Health and Human Services and state governments, not just the president’s pulpit.


Isn’t that what a person would want? To consult health agencies to come up with a safe timetable?

Or does everyone want this to fall on Donald Trump and his infinite wisdom regarding medicine?



posted on Apr, 13 2020 @ 07:21 PM
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They want Trump to veto it .

It will be interesting to see if the Republicans circle the wagons because they know the outcome too.

It’s a waste of time to put Trump on the spot.

He’s already owned the decision .
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posted on Apr, 13 2020 @ 07:22 PM
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originally posted by: underwerks

Several senior Democrats are now calling on Congress to create a national plan that decides when to reopen businesses and schools in consultation with agencies like the Department of Health and Human Services and state governments, not just the president’s pulpit.


Isn’t that what a person would want? To consult health agencies to come up with a safe timetable?

Or does everyone want this to fall on Donald Trump and his infinite wisdom regarding medicine?


Or we could just let House Democrats take over state's rights and plow through some insane ideas that will only put more tax dollars in the pockets of their donors?

Since I'm having to ask this today, what color is the collar the DNC sent you?

/facepalm



posted on Apr, 13 2020 @ 07:33 PM
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originally posted by: underwerks

Several senior Democrats are now calling on Congress to create a national plan that decides when to reopen businesses and schools in consultation with agencies like the Department of Health and Human Services and state governments, not just the president’s pulpit.


Isn’t that what a person would want? To consult health agencies to come up with a safe timetable?

Or does everyone want this to fall on Donald Trump and his infinite wisdom regarding medicine?


Lets assume that a person would want to consult health agencies to come up with a safe timetable.

Does this person than want to leave it to the House and Senate to first debate the issues in comity; than on the floor of both chambers; and than to reconcile what ever the two bodies can agree on; than take the actions they come up with?

If the answer to that is yes; how long do you think it would take for Congress to come up with their plan to move forward? Considering they aren't even in Washington to start the process.



posted on Apr, 13 2020 @ 07:34 PM
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If I were Trump, I would say sure, absolutely, let them debate and absolutely show how much they suck. Every Repub should vote here, and when it passes, then every press conference he should say, the democrats own that decision, not me. They voted for and wanted ownership of this mess, here you go, everything sucks because of them. Its an easy out.

Camain



posted on Apr, 13 2020 @ 07:47 PM
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originally posted by: underwerks

Several senior Democrats are now calling on Congress to create a national plan that decides when to reopen businesses and schools in consultation with agencies like the Department of Health and Human Services and state governments, not just the president’s pulpit.


Isn’t that what a person would want? To consult health agencies to come up with a safe timetable?

Or does everyone want this to fall on Donald Trump and his infinite wisdom regarding medicine?


Okay, I'll bite, you act as all Trump has is health advisors Trump has advisors in all categories and in all facets of government. While the health officials are likely throwing out worse case scenarios because that's what you do to cover your azz, there are other advisors on the economy telling him the worse case scenarios if this continues.

Trump always had advisors even way back to his USFL days, he was well known for hiring and firing people just to glean information to help him make a decision. Not saying it's right or wrong it was just how he ran things. He likes those meetings kicking around ideas from all sources. So now he has the information but he is the one that needs to process it all and make a decision. I think we should all be able to agree while bad and tragic so far it's not something we should continue to freeze the whole country over.

There is a growing sentiment that we have likely been going through this longer than just March and there are millions of us already infected and fought it off, without even noticing. China, Hong Kong, South Korea are already back at work with the rest of Asia likely to follow suit soon. By May 1st it will be 8 weeks time for us to consider all ramifications if we continue the lockdown as is or start rolling it back in certain areas. America is a big place, take caution in certain hot spots but relax restrictions and monitor closely elsewhere. If they don't soon they could have other issues arise that won't be quelled with a lockdown. We have food supply issues that will likely pop up, as well as utilities and other infrastructure that just can't be ignored.



posted on Apr, 13 2020 @ 08:00 PM
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So Democratic leadership doesn't understand the 10th Amendment and just want to go full-on fascists...


Too late.

'The authority is total': Trump claims he has power to decide when states reopen www.washingtonexaminer.com...



posted on Apr, 13 2020 @ 08:09 PM
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originally posted by: putnam6

Okay, I'll bite, you act as all Trump has is health advisors Trump has advisors in all categories and in all facets of government. While the health officials are likely throwing out worse case scenarios because that's what you do to cover your azz, there are other advisors on the economy telling him the worse case scenarios if this continues.


That's a very good point; people often forget that this crisis affects more than just health and that the "medical experts" no matter how smart they are don't have all the answers nor are they the best equipped to make social decisions. They have plenty to contribute; but it would be extremely short sighted to give them the final decision making power.



posted on Apr, 13 2020 @ 08:15 PM
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originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: Lumenari



So Democratic leadership doesn't understand the 10th Amendment and just want to go full-on fascists...


Too late.

'The authority is total': Trump claims he has power to decide when states reopen www.washingtonexaminer.com...

Yep.
That would most likely fall under the Executive Branch of government .
Please learn US civics before posting .
(PS , a President has advisors to advise.)

Denying ignorance.
Why ?
Today is Monday.



posted on Apr, 13 2020 @ 08:16 PM
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originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: Lumenari



So Democratic leadership doesn't understand the 10th Amendment and just want to go full-on fascists...


Too late.

'The authority is total': Trump claims he has power to decide when states reopen www.washingtonexaminer.com...


I'm sorry... wasn't this what Democrats and their useless eater voting base has been screaming for him to do for a month or so?

And he hasn't done?

So you're a Trump supporter now?




posted on Apr, 13 2020 @ 08:19 PM
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Right. With the Congress scattered all over America and various vacation spots, because they're scared to return to Washington, any Democrat ideas are nothing more than delay tactics.

With the USA closed, Joe Biden can keep babbling from the safety of his basement.



posted on Apr, 13 2020 @ 08:52 PM
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So you're a Trump supporter now?


I'm a supporter of the Constitution and the 10th Amendment that you invoked. Apparently Trump is not a fan of the 10th Amendment.



posted on Apr, 13 2020 @ 08:52 PM
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That would most likely fall under the Executive Branch of government .
Please learn US civics before posting .


Please learn the Constitution.

The Executive Branch did shutter schools or small businesses, governors and mayors did.
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posted on Apr, 13 2020 @ 09:03 PM
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I'd actually be very curious as to where all our political leaders are residing during this pandemic. Are most of them in their home districts or did they bug out to safer locations?

As Trump tells the Press "Someone should look into that!".



posted on Apr, 13 2020 @ 10:50 PM
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I'm starting to detest the fearmongering and blamethrowing. This virus would not be so bad if they changed the meds of many of the people in this country. But that would be admitting the medical industry is flawed, so it most likely will never happen. There are a couple of classes of meds that would need to be changed and many people would not have to worry so much.

The FDA and NIH need to investigate this right away and if it is a problem fix it so we can get back to normal. Nobody knew this virus would be this kind of a problem, they have other meds they can use, it should not be a liability and in this case there should not be any class action lawsuits allowed because it was forseen.

Still the very old will be susceptible, but they are in nursing homes and their kids and friends cannot even come see them. What kind of life is that? Quality of life has to be considered, If I was in a nursing home, I would demand to go back and stay with my kids or grandkids even if it meant I was going to die faster. I would not want to spend my last days living in a place full of fear. I know how nursing homes are, I have had lots of friends and relatives wind up in them.

If people want to live in fear, they have a right to. I will not judge them. It is different if you are in the nursing home for recovery of something, but to be an inpatient permanently, it is not good.



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