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Trump and American Leadership in General Lack All the Requirements of Being a Successful Leader

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posted on Apr, 13 2020 @ 01:58 PM
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This is how much I care when the Republican or Democrats jump on me for this post..

I am neither a Democrat or Republican so this isn't some party argument for me. I literally watched Trump, Pence , Pelosi, take your pick essentially demonstrate all of these same shortcomings throughout the events of this pandemic. To me, on a personal level though, leadership failures start with the person in the highest position and for America currently that is the President.

Based off publicly available evidence Trump lacks multiple successful leadership qualities. For those that are fans of him as President I am not saying he is a good or bad president but rather that he is not a good leader. To me it's similar to the difference of how a manager and leader are different, they have responsibility overlap but they are not truly the same.

LEADERSHIP QUALITIES LACKING

Multiple examples of each of the following shortcomings can easily be found and viewed from Trump and the other leaders of this country over the course of this scenario.

1. Personal ownership of failures.
2. Deflecting all praise to your team while accepting all responsibility of your teams failure regardless of your actual involvement.
3. Clear, concise, well spoken communications
4. Being honest with your team
5. Clear, well defined targets
6. Developing leaders throughout all levels your subordinates
7. The success of the mission matters more than personal ego.

Depending on which source you go to for leadership qualities this list could literally be endless when discussing the failures of leadership we have seen.

For me , I am firm believer in the principal of Extreme Ownership which is a strategy developed by two retired SEALs. While I am cognizant that truly elite life and death combat leadership skills are not necessarily the same as leadership qualities needed in other facets of life the core principals of those skills are applicable from the smallest business to the largest corporation and everything in between.

Again, this isn't a post where I am trying to say Trump is a bad President or where Pelosi is a bad Speaker of the House as I have no point of reference by which to make such a claim.

I do however have the point of reference by which to say that those leaders we have had during this event have failed at their responsibility to effectively lead.



posted on Apr, 13 2020 @ 02:03 PM
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a reply to: opethPA

So it's the same as the last 15 year's?



posted on Apr, 13 2020 @ 02:09 PM
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Telling it like it is doesn’t make you a good politician .

DC hates it’s why we love Trump .



posted on Apr, 13 2020 @ 02:17 PM
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But you left out the Democrats. Americans have been trying but blocked and harassed by the Socialist Democrats all the way. So the Americans have done the best they could under the conditions. The Socialist Democrats = treason.




posted on Apr, 13 2020 @ 02:27 PM
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a reply to: opethPA

Their all only human.



posted on Apr, 13 2020 @ 02:31 PM
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originally posted by: mikell
But you left out the Democrats. Americans have been trying but blocked and harassed by the Socialist Democrats all the way. So the Americans have done the best they could under the conditions. The Socialist Democrats = treason.



I mentioned Democrat as many times as I said Republican and also called out Pelosi by name.

For example this paragraph from the post "Again, this isn't a post where I am trying to say Trump is a bad President or where Pelosi is a bad Speaker of the House as I have no point of reference by which to make such a claim."

As I said, leadership to me starts with the highest person in the leadership chain and that is the President so yes he should own the largest part of the failures we have seen.
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posted on Apr, 13 2020 @ 02:47 PM
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a reply to: opethPA

S&F all the way.

May I add, the ability to be
both comforting & truthful at the same time.



posted on Apr, 13 2020 @ 02:49 PM
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a reply to: opethPA

Trump is president.

He owns it.

/thread



posted on Apr, 13 2020 @ 02:51 PM
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Politicians are a reflection of the people but Trump is a little different. He wasn't really a reflection of them as Michael Moore pointed out. People just got sick of both sides and threw a big pipe wrench at it. It was a damn good hit too.

Maybe one day people will wake up and the reflection they want to project is not filled with crassness, sham outrage, sham racism and being clueless on why a physician assistant makes a lot more than a fast food cashier.



posted on Apr, 13 2020 @ 02:53 PM
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originally posted by: JAGStorm
a reply to: opethPA

S&F all the way.

May I add, the ability to be
both comforting & truthful at the same time.

You're describing a mom, not a politician. You're asking a bit much in my opinion.



posted on Apr, 13 2020 @ 02:55 PM
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a reply to: opethPA

I think you are right. Now, who in your opinion does hold these qualities?



posted on Apr, 13 2020 @ 02:57 PM
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a reply to: opethPA

They are my representatives, not my leaders. They aren't very good at representing when they are running around trying to be something they weren't elected to be and that is a leader.



posted on Apr, 13 2020 @ 02:58 PM
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Wow. You better take over then.



posted on Apr, 13 2020 @ 02:58 PM
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a reply to: opethPA

Well, the people who have the qualifications you listed would never get elected.

It's really that simple.

You simply cannot satisfy all of the people, all of the time, but politicians try to do it all the time. People who have the qualities you listed would be eclipsed be these types every time. Always.



posted on Apr, 13 2020 @ 02:59 PM
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originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: opethPA

I think you are right. Now, who in your opinion does hold these qualities?



you don't have to bait him into an argument.

he merely pointed out what he thought were shortcomings in American leaders.
he can point out an issue without having a replacement.

you don't need to have a replacement to recognize an issue. solving the issue is a whole different story.



posted on Apr, 13 2020 @ 03:01 PM
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originally posted by: Fallingdown
Telling it like it is doesn’t make you a good politician .

DC hates it’s why we love Trump .



I’ve yet to see Trump tell anything like it really is.

He tells it how he wants it to be.

And that’s one of the worst qualities you could ever look for in someone that is President.


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posted on Apr, 13 2020 @ 03:01 PM
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a reply to: opethPA

Politics > everything else

Job, business or independently wealthy < political power

If politics wasn't so maliciously lucrative, we could have effective leadership.


I thought this was pretty much common sense.



posted on Apr, 13 2020 @ 03:12 PM
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Here's a suggestion though...

Get Congress and the Senate to pass a law saying every president, vice president, congress person and senator, prior to being put on a ballot, ABSOLUTELY MUST participate in a debate with their opponents wherein they are ONLY allowed to give the following answers and NOT ONE WORD more:

1. Yes
2. No
3. I don't know

Let the citizens of the United States come up with the questions with the top 50-100 being selected. All candidates get asked the exact same questions.



posted on Apr, 13 2020 @ 03:14 PM
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originally posted by: odzeandennz

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: opethPA

I think you are right. Now, who in your opinion does hold these qualities?



you don't have to bait him into an argument.

he merely pointed out what he thought were shortcomings in American leaders.
he can point out an issue without having a replacement.

you don't need to have a replacement to recognize an issue. solving the issue is a whole different story.


pointing out that our political leaders suck isn't something that's thread worthy IMHO. It's like saying ATS has some paranoid members. But if you want to point out the issues and then offer a solution, you are trying to improve your surroundings, and that I can get behind.

Pissing and moaning is cool and all, it just doesn't offer the same fruits as offering fixes to real problems. But you do you.
edit on 13-4-2020 by network dude because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 13 2020 @ 03:15 PM
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a reply to: opethPA

You should run as an independent candidate in 2024. You know the old saying about Actions vs. Words...




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